CR1 ADVISE ON UPLOADING PROOF OF COMMUNICATION

[TEE 1 3]

Hi fellow Visa Journer,

I need your advise on uploading proof of communication between me and my wife in Nigeria. Just to give you a little background, My wife and I met in 2012 got into relationship in 2013, came to Nigeria in march of 2014 to do traditional marriage and applied for the k1 visa. Later we came to know that traditional engagement will be considered a marriage when you go to the embassy so we excluded a lot of pictures showing the traditional engagement and used a few pictures of us together as a couple. We also excluded emails and chat communication of where we referred to each other as husband and wife even though at time we were not legally married but tradition it was considered marriage. So the limited information my then 'fiancee' took to the embassy in October 2014 was seen as insufficient to proof bonified relationship then she theyput her on AP sending the documents back to USCIS. The CO asked her where are the family members in the picture and the email were not enough at list that we we know for the reason so far we are still expecting the main letter giving reason why she was declined.

So this year in FEB. 2015 I returned to Nigeria to marry her at the Fed ministry of Interior IKOYI and now I have written a letter to withdraw the i-129 application to begin a i-130 application. My only problem is that now that we have nothing to hide, in proof of communication and pictures of us and family members together I am faced with dilemma of providing to much bulky proof of bonified relationship, we have FB messenger chat of almost 6,000 pages, whats up 170 pages and phone records close to 100 pages. My concern is that it does make sense to upload this much for the sake of proofing bonified marriage, having said that all other required documents are available and ready but this proof of communication is what is stressing me out, how much is too much and how little is too small?

At what point is it advisable upload the emails, phone records, chat, pictures etc. during the submission of i-130 application or when?

Please anyone who did the uploading thing please share your advise.

Thank you

Mike tee.

[MrsN 8]

Upload everything. They want proof so give them the full proof

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

Hi fellow Visa Journer,

I need your advise on uploading proof of communication between me and my wife in Nigeria. Just to give you a little background, My wife and I met in 2012 got into relationship in 2013, came to Nigeria in march of 2014 to do traditional marriage and applied for the k1 visa. Later we came to know that traditional engagement will be considered a marriage when you go to the embassy so we excluded a lot of pictures showing the traditional engagement and used a few pictures of us together as a couple. We also excluded emails and chat communication of where we referred to each other as husband and wife even though at time we were not legally married but tradition it was considered marriage. So the limited information my then 'fiancee' took to the embassy in October 2014 was seen as insufficient to proof bonified relationship then she theyput her on AP sending the documents back to USCIS. The CO asked her where are the family members in the picture and the email were not enough at list that we we know for the reason so far we are still expecting the main letter giving reason why she was declined.

So this year in FEB. 2015 I returned to Nigeria to marry her at the Fed ministry of Interior IKOYI and now I have written a letter to withdraw the i-129 application to begin a i-130 application. My only problem is that now that we have nothing to hide, in proof of communication and pictures of us and family members together I am faced with dilemma of providing to much bulky proof of bonified relationship, we have FB messenger chat of almost 6,000 pages, whats up 170 pages and phone records close to 100 pages. My concern is that it does make sense to upload this much for the sake of proofing bonified marriage, having said that all other required documents are available and ready but this proof of communication is what is stressing me out, how much is too much and how little is too small?

At what point is it advisable upload the emails, phone records, chat, pictures etc. during the submission of i-130 application or when?

Please anyone who did the uploading thing please share your advise.

Thank you

Mike tee.

Frontload all the what'sup 170 pages, the phone records 100 pages, make sure they are from the beginning of your relationship to current.

Then carefully choose FB (yahoo, skype) chats spanning a time from beginning to current but not the 6000. Read, pick and choose the ones

that are quality chats, several per week, you can pick only the first page of a chat showing date and time etc. then go to the next week and so on.

For the interview itself take everything plus updated current ones that were not included in the frontloading.

You were caught between the 'too married to be fiance' and 'not enough to be married' Lagos logic.

Make sure you have a well rounded quality frontloaded package, not just 'stuffed papers.'

Choose your items with intent to convince the CO of a bona fide relatonship, rather than just being concerned with quantity choose quality

though quantity will also be looked at.

Frontloading is done not to convince USCIS but the CO who will have looked at your package before the interview (which he gets

from USCIS) and he may not give you another chance to provide more evidence on the day of the interview.

I included a short note in my package on top of all my communication evidence that went something like this : I apologize if I am sending too much

communication evidence but the previous CO told us we didn't have sufficient evidence and to satisfy the CO this time around I am including

extra evidence. I did that to not frustrate USCIS with my many papers and get my point across of why I frontloaded.

We were approved that second time around. It's a tight rope dance, think quality and diverse evidence.

[TEE 1 3]

Ebunoluwa, Great Advise, Thank so much may God continue to bless your union.

[LexxBec 0]

I agree with Ebunoluwa, while you still have the chance to frontload at the USCIS stage, use it. From what I have read, applicants who have very bulky files at the embassy at the time of interview seldom get asked much questions and they are approved. Also I think people who peddle stories that traditional marriages are termed as legal marriages at the embassy should stop it. It's not legal till there's official documentation to back it up and let's call a spade a spade, the traditional ceremony is actually an engagement ceremony which is the most important reason to grant a K1 visa. Anyway on a positive note, it adds credibility to your application in terms of time and age of relationship. Best of luck