Weird job interview!

[Cathi 5,771]

Sick pay, vacation pay, and holiday pay are fairly standard benefits for career jobs. A hotel job is generally considered a temporary job and may not provide these benefits. These are high turnover jobs. It is unreasonable to expect a company to grant paid sick time for an employee that will only work for them for a few months. Obviously you are not required to accept a job if you are not satisfied with the benefits. Most long term jobs do offer paid sick time. INCLUDING Hampton Inn. This quote is from their website:

" Standard work benefits with the hotel chain include paid time off, sick leave, employee assistance, and flexible scheduling. Qualified Hampton Inn associates may gain access to insurance coverage, such medical, dental, and vision care, as well. Employment benefits eligibility depends on several factors, such as the position desired and amount of experience in the hotel industry."

In other words, if you decide to make a career at their hotel, benefits will be provided to you at some point. No benefits are provided to transient workers that have no intention of working for them long term. That is fair and normal here.

Reading federal law relating to labor laws does not tell you the whole story. There are also state laws and local laws that can add to the requirements. Florida does not have mandatory paid sick time, but some states do.

What I can tell you it that if you work hard and are a valuable employee that whatever company you work for will want to keep you. Good pay and benefits will eventually be provided.

ummmm...where do you get your information, or do you make it up as you go along? Hotel jobs are not temp. I worked at Raddison for years, none of the jobs were temp...

To the OP, most full time jobs have benefits such as paid vacation, holidays and sick time. Sounds to me to me that this woman was was on a power trip. Look for employment elsewhere. Benefits will vary for each job. for example my husband received 5 weeks paid vacation per year as well as 10 paid holidays and 12 sick days per year immediately upon hire and they pay 80% of our health and dental insurance and give him free life and disability insurance, profit sharing and bonus once a year. That is a lot, and much more than most companies offer. Most full time jobs will give you a week or 2 of paid vacation after a year plus paid holidays. Health insurance is never free

[HK12 273]

Do not compare Europe to America when it comes to work-related benefits. No, they are not a right here. Labor laws are not even close to being as highly regulated as in many European countries. The employer has a lot more freedom, and oftentimes benefits are negotiable. While I agree that this company is not a desirable work place, you always have the choice to work somewhere else.

That being said, my employer gives me ten days of paid vacation time and five days of paid sick leave per year, and that seems to be quite the norm around here, at least for smaller companies.

[Jmalaysia 8]

ummmm...where do you get your information, or do you make it up as you go along? Hotel jobs are not temp. I worked at Raddison for years, none of the jobs were temp...

To the OP, most full time jobs have benefits such as paid vacation, holidays and sick time. Sounds to me to me that this woman was was on a power trip. Look for employment elsewhere. Benefits will vary for each job. for example my husband received 5 weeks paid vacation per year as well as 10 paid holidays and 12 sick days per year immediately upon hire and they pay 80% of our health and dental insurance and give him free life and disability insurance, profit sharing and bonus once a year. That is a lot, and much more than most companies offer. Most full time jobs will give you a week or 2 of paid vacation after a year plus paid holidays. Health insurance is never free

No, I didn't "make-up" my information. It was based on personal experience. If you would like data, however, I can provide that. The hospitality industry has a turnover rate of 29%, which is approximately double the average for all industries (15%). I didn't say they were "temp" jobs (meaning hired from a temporary agency) - I said they were temporary jobs, meaning people do not stay at the job very long. No need to be defensive. I was not attacking the hotel industry, just pointing out that short-term jobs typically do not include any benefits.

[jbanya 19]

Do not compare Europe to America when it comes to work-related benefits. No, they are not a right here. Labor laws are not even close to being as highly regulated as in many European countries. The employer has a lot more freedom, and oftentimes benefits are negotiable. While I agree that this company is not a desirable work place, you always have the choice to work somewhere else.

That being said, my employer gives me ten days of paid vacation time and five days of paid sick leave per year, and that seems to be quite the norm around here, at least for smaller companies.

Not just Europe, can't even compare with some Asian countries too (Malaysia & Singapore for sure!), we have 21 days paid sick leave per annum, and all medical expenses subsidized by employer as long as we past the 3 months probation period and become full time staffs, +14 days annual leaves/paid vacation days for the first 3 years and 21 days from 4-5 years then 25 days for employees that have up to 5 years services in the company.

For women, we have 60 days paid maternity leaves + 30 days unpaid (optional) depends on how long you would like to rest after childbirth.

I'm very surprised after I found out the benefits from American companies is like this

[belinda63 3,039]

Speaking as a former store manager and HR assistant there are no guaranteed job benefits unless you work for the government. You might be offered a benefit package such as so many weeks paid vacation per year, or so many sick days per year, but it is not a right given to every worker or at every job. There are full-time jobs that give no benefits. As to the "you can't ever call in sick" there is, in many jobs, what is considered a probation period. I have worked places where if you called in or were even one minute late during the probationary period you were fired.

Most states are employed at will states which means either party, the employee or employer, can terminate or quit the position at any time without any reason. Of course, if you are terminated without cause you can file for unemployment.

[vatten 1]

Then Europe and other places are like heaven. It seems like the American system is against the well being, health and happiness of its citizens.

[Jmalaysia 8]

Then Europe and other places are like heaven. It seems like the American system is against the well being, health and happiness of its citizens.

Have you worked in the USA or Europe? Just curious what you are using for your comparison.

[Jmalaysia 8]

There is nothing wrong with the American labor system. People come from all over the world to live the "American Dream." The US is not for lazy people, or for people that want a handout. It is for hard working people that provide a service to their employer. Companies don't owe you anything. If you don't perform your job well you will be terminated. If you do perform your job well then you will be rewarded. That reward may be something as simple as still having a job to come back to the next day. I have been at the same company for 20 years and I am still happy that they think enough of me to keep me as an employee. Too many people feel like they are doing their company a favor by showing up for work. The company is doing YOU a favor by giving you a job. Be an asset to your employer and you will do well here. Starting a job by asking what the company will do for YOU is just wrong. Sure, be aware of the benefits and use that as part of your decision on whether you want to work for a company, but don't expect to receive the same benefits as employees that have been there many years. Earn your way. Prove your value.

Just for comparison, I get 3 weeks paid vacation per year and 12 paid sick days per year. I earn 3.5 times more than when I started the job 20 years ago.

If I interview someone for a job and they focus too much on the benefits I will not hire them. I want to hear what you will do for the company, not a lot of questions about what the company will do for you. I will tell you what the company offers. You tell me what you offer.

[Golden Gate 530]

If life is perfect in Europe, why are you coming here? Just wondering...

[VOL 425]

Not just Europe, can't even compare with some Asian countries too (Malaysia & Singapore for sure!), we have 21 days paid sick leave per annum, and all medical expenses subsidized by employer as long as we past the 3 months probation period and become full time staffs, +14 days annual leaves/paid vacation days for the first 3 years and 21 days from 4-5 years then 25 days for employees that have up to 5 years services in the company.

For women, we have 60 days paid maternity leaves + 30 days unpaid (optional) depends on how long you would like to rest after childbirth.

I'm very surprised after I found out the benefits from American companies is like this

But I understand the pay suxs compared to USA salary in both Malaysia and Singapore.......

[agnesb 47]

Then Europe and other places are like heaven. It seems like the American system is against the well being, health and happiness of its citizens.

It's heaven if you're happy with up to half of your salary being taken in taxes and social.

[jbanya 19]

if you are terminated without cause you can file for unemployment.

Can we also file complaint for compensation funds from the employer fired employee without any reason?

[jbanya 19]

But I understand the pay suxs compared to USA salary in both Malaysia and Singapore.......

Paid sucks? Singapore's paid is higher than US, Malaysia certain jobs have better paid although the currency is weak but both countries have reasonable living expenses. In Malaysia free education system to all citizens till 18 and if they have good result then government subsidies college; for medical all states and cities have government hospital, you just need RM1 (30 cents USD) for medicines and consultant, you don't need insurance as protection can still living in happy life.

EXAMPLE: (not to show off or complaint)

Income in Malaysia is RM6000 per month + 11% retirement funds contribution from employer (USD is about $1800+ per month) last year Sept. My breakfast RM5 (>$1.8), lunch and dinner below RM10 (>$3), gas is RM7.5 per gallon ($2), car wash RM7 with workers done all vacumm for you ($2.2), and also walking distance you can get public transportation in very low fees and convenient, but here in US you need a car to survive in most of the cities, for rental RM500 suburb and RM800 city you can get a 3 bedrooms apartment, here suburb $800 and city $2000 and above only you can have 2-3 bedrooms apartment. I can have up to RM50,000 saving in bank + RM100,000 saving in retirement funds over 10 years working in Malaysia, I don't know what is the average saving for American family, but I know many families need food-stamp and low income subsidize to support their living (based on my few months volunteering experience here in US).

not to compare here but just give an example how much is the earning vs living. You may see lot of immigrants come to US, but hardly to find a single Malaysian who are illegal here... and you will surprise how many illegal immigrants to Singapore and Malaysia around the world. Singapore have lot of expat from US, in Malaysia, you can see lot of American restaurant and expat working, driving and partying around the country too... and sad to say, non of them want to back to US after they enjoy the living in our country.

Reply to the people who ask "If xx country is so good why are you coming to US??" I am sure some answer is because they have hard time in their home country, but I believe most of the people who sacrifice themselve to left their home country and come to US, is because they really love their partner.

My answer, if American easy to get job aboard, why I come??

I knew my hubby since 2009 and really want him to be there so we can live in a country that in a "slow and steady" economy + Malaysia is a developing country, average 6% grow on Economic per annum. Seriously I really reluctant to come but my hubby unable to get any job offer in Malaysia since ENGLISH is the only language he can speak, in my home country you must know both Bahasa and English, certain company will required for Chinese language as well, if not you can't survive in the work place where most people will use 2-3 languages to complete a sentences, and many organization using Bahasa as their official memo notices and etc.

And yes, I do agreed America is a "labor" market for people to come here to work without benefits, one of the reason is because of the currency is strong, and this country is all about quantity and convenient, not quality and lifestyle, but this is not the life we, as American's life partner will really enjoy..

I'm still trying to love the environment and lifestyle here, because my hubby is here. You can't expect a person who used to enjoy swimming in a private pool, suddenly change their mind to swim in a public pool without minor compare...

[Teddy B 17,252]

Can we also file complaint for compensation funds from the employer fired employee without any reason?

If there were underlying reasons for the termination such as a long term pattern of harassment or the employer asking you to perform an illegal act, you refuse and then were fired in retaliation, yes you can sue the employer for lost wages and damages. The strength of your case will determine how much, if any money you would get.

[Golden Gate 530]

Paid sucks? Singapore's paid is higher than US, Malaysia certain jobs have better paid although the currency is weak but both countries have reasonable living expenses. In Malaysia free education system to all citizens till 18 and if they have good result then government subsidies college; for medical all states and cities have government hospital, you just need RM1 (30 cents USD) for medicines and consultant, you don't need insurance as protection can still living in happy life.

EXAMPLE: (not to show off or complaint)

Income in Malaysia is RM6000 per month + 11% retirement funds contribution from employer (USD is about $1800+ per month) last year Sept. My breakfast RM5 (>$1.8), lunch and dinner below RM10 (>$3), gas is RM7.5 per gallon ($2), car wash RM7 with workers done all vacumm for you ($2.2), and also walking distance you can get public transportation in very low fees and convenient, but here in US you need a car to survive in most of the cities, for rental RM500 suburb and RM800 city you can get a 3 bedrooms apartment, here suburb $800 and city $2000 and above only you can have 2-3 bedrooms apartment. I can have up to RM50,000 saving in bank + RM100,000 saving in retirement funds over 10 years working in Malaysia, I don't know what is the average saving for American family, but I know many families need food-stamp and low income subsidize to support their living (based on my few months volunteering experience here in US).

not to compare here but just give an example how much is the earning vs living. You may see lot of immigrants come to US, but hardly to find a single Malaysian who are illegal here... and you will surprise how many illegal immigrants to Singapore and Malaysia around the world. Singapore have lot of expat from US, in Malaysia, you can see lot of American restaurant and expat working, driving and partying around the country too... and sad to say, non of them want to back to US after they enjoy the living in our country.

Reply to the people who ask "If xx country is so good why are you coming to US??" I am sure some answer is because they have hard time in their home country, but I believe most of the people who sacrifice themselve to left their home country and come to US, is because they really love their partner.

My answer, if American easy to get job aboard, why I come??

I knew my hubby since 2009 and really want him to be there so we can live in a country that in a "slow and steady" economy + Malaysia is a developing country, average 6% grow on Economic per annum. Seriously I really reluctant to come but my hubby unable to get any job offer in Malaysia since ENGLISH is the only language he can speak, in my home country you must know both Bahasa and English, certain company will required for Chinese language as well, if not you can't survive in the work place where most people will use 2-3 languages to complete a sentences, and many organization using Bahasa as their official memo notices and etc.

And yes, I do agreed America is a "labor" market for people to come here to work without benefits, one of the reason is because of the currency is strong, and this country is all about quantity and convenient, not quality and lifestyle, but this is not the life we, as American's life partner will really enjoy..

I'm still trying to love the environment and lifestyle here, because my hubby is here. You can't expect a person who used to enjoy swimming in a private pool, suddenly change their mind to swim in a public pool without minor compare...

I can understand that feeling of missing things you used to have. My husband goes through these emotions, especially when something doesn't go right here, where he just feels like everything was so much better for him back home (and personally I would like to move to his country myself because I enjoyed the slower pace of life).

It makes me sad to think that he came here for me and gave up a lot of things. However, it isn't good to keep feeling sad about that. Then I also think that he came here because he gained something he didn't have there. It might not be something tangible, like a swimming pool , but something more abstract like seeing life more clearly, because when people haven't been somewhere else, they tend to look at other places with rose colored glasses and are always looking for greener pastures and it takes leaving home to find out there aren't greener pastures. They say, wherever you go, there you are. Ultimately, we have to deal with the dissatisfaction within ourselves and find peace wherever we are.