Obama, Obama did you see Christian Blood in the Sea?

[JohnR! 5,495]

Give or take a few hundred trailers, half a dozen teeth and several cars on blocks... :rofl:

So that would be a yes?

Edited February 26, 2015 by JohnR!

[LibCampFireClub 635]

I looked to see if any of these men was smiling. I don't see any smiles though.

[Teddy B 17,252]

I looked to see if any of these men was smiling. I don't see any smiles though.

You wouldn't be smiling either if you were wearing orange.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Here is an interesting fact. For what it's worth, Bibi had the guts to extend the offer and to call for his people to Israel where they would be safe.

How long will it take the Pope to avail his people of the resources of the Vatican and offer them safe haven in the Holy See?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/16/leaders-criticise-netanyahu-calls-jewish-mass-migration-israel

European leaders have rejected calls by the Israeli prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, for Jews to migrate en masse to Israel, pledging to ensure their safety at home.

Following shootings in Copenhagen at the weekend, Netanyahu echoed remarks he made after the Paris attacks on Charlie Hebdo and a kosher supermarket in January, saying on Sunday: “This wave of terror attacks can be expected to continue, including antisemitic and murderous attacks. We say to the Jews, to our brothers and sisters, Israel is your home and that of every Jew. Israel is waiting for you with open arms.”

But the French prime minister, Manuel Valls – who was speaking after several hundred Jewish headstones were vandalised at a cemetery in eastern France – said that he regretted Netanyahu’s call, noting that the Israeli prime minister was “in the midst of a general election campaign”.

The French president, François Hollande, insisted on Monday that he would not allow people to believe that “Jews no longer have a place in Europe” . “Jews have their place in Europe and, in particular, in France,” he said.

The German chancellor, Angela Merkel, said her government would do everything possible to make sure Jewish sites were secure. “We are glad and thankful that there is Jewish life in Germany again,” Merkel said in Berlin. “And we would like to continue living well together with the Jews who are in Germany today.”

Denmark’s chief rabbi, Jair Melchior, said he was disappointed by Netanyahu’s remarks. He said on Sunday: “Terror is not a reason to move to Israel.

“People from Denmark move to Israel because they love Israel, because of Zionism but not because of terrorism. If the way we deal with terror is to run somewhere else, we should all run to a deserted island.”

His comments were echoed on Monday by Denmark’s ambassador to Israel, Jesper Vahr. “The Danish Jews’ solution is not to leave the country and, as our prime minister said, the attack on the Jewish community in Copenhagen is an attack on all the citizens of Denmark.

“I don’t think the solution is to leave. We consider the Jewish community to be an integral part of Danish society, and we will do everything so that it feels safe. This is an attack on all the citizens of Denmark.”

Rabbi Menachem Margolin, head of the European Jewish Association, also condemned Netanyahu’s call for mass migration of European Jews to Israel as unacceptable, while calling on Europe’s governments to improve security for Jewish schools, synagogues and other establishments.

“This is an unacceptable call. I criticised the Israeli government for this call after the Paris attack. I think that by saying ‘come to Israel’ you basically say: ‘There is no way to protect you where you are, so please come to Israel.’ People who live in Europe have the full right to live with full security.”

Former Israeli president Shimon Peres also criticised calls for Europe’s Jews to move to Israel as political. Speaking at an event organised by the Times of Israel, he said that while he “would like every Jew who wants to come to Israel to please come … I don’t want it to be a political position. Don’t come to Israel because of a political position, but because you want to come and live in Israel. Israel must remain a land of hope and not a land of fear.”

[JohnR! 5,495]

The look on the faces of these victims reflect the realization, moments before their death, that there is no god, and no one is coming to save them.

You wouldn't be smiling either if you were wearing orange.

[Teddy B 17,252]

The look on the faces of these victims reflect the realization, moments before their death, that there is no god, and no one is coming to save them.

Kind of backs my statement that the world would be a much better place without religion. More lives have been destroyed throughout history in the name of religion than any other cause.

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

The look on the faces of these victims reflect the realization, moments before their death, that there is no god, and no one is coming to save them.

i had no idea mind reading was on your resume.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

i had no idea mind reading was on your resume.

Perhaps it is an opinion?

[JohnR! 5,495]

I have no doubt of that. Religion, not money, is the root of all evil.

Kind of backs my statement that the world would be a much better place without religion. More lives have been destroyed throughout history in the name of religion than any other cause.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The issue isn't religious belief. It's religion confused with political power.

[JohnR! 5,495]

It's somewhat more than just an opinion.

Perhaps it is an opinion?

Alas, religious belief or faith, and religion, seem to be mutually exclusive throughout history. Every religion is centered in hypocrisy and paradox.

The issue isn't religious belief. It's religion confused with political power.

Edited February 26, 2015 by JohnR!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It depends what we're talking about. I have no issue with anyone who follows a religious belief. As with everything, if it adds meaning to someone's life and they aren't brutalising anyone because of what they believe I don't think anyone has the right to write them off for it.

Many non religious people are jaded on the issue because they associate being religious with being a terrorist or some frothing evangelist. Its arrogant to tar everyone who believes with that brush. Imo.

[JohnR! 5,495]

It's always been there. You may have missed it.

i had no idea mind reading was on your resume.

[Teddy B 17,252]

It depends what we're talking about. I have no issue with anyone who follows a religious belief. As with everything, if it adds meaning to someone's life and they aren't brutalising anyone because of what they believe I don't think anyone has the right to write them off for it.

Many non religious people are jaded on the issue because they associate being religious with being a terrorist or some frothing evangelist. Its arrogant to tar everyone who believes with that brush. Imo.

I have never known anyone that does, I certainly don't. I don't think that Athiests or Agnostics have any problem with people who believe in a God, it's when those beliefs cross the line and become radicalized when the problems start. Every person has a right to believe whatever they want as long as those beliefs do not intrude on other peoples rights to not believe.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

In my experience people who describe themselves as atheist, as opposed to being atheist simply by virtue of being non religious, view religious beliefs and those who have them as primitive.