Sponsor's household size when petitioning for two parents

[MarinaMaya 3]

I am sponsoring my both parents and they are going through embassy (not AOS).

On part 5 of I 864 I have to put household size.

There are 2 people in the household now.

Adding my parents becomes 4 but I don't know in which part do I add my mother if it is my father's I 864 and vice versa.

Also, where on I-864 do I mention that there is a second person immigrating?

Edited February 10, 2015 by garyaka

[JohnR! 5,495]

You must enter the size of the household as it is now. If it's only you and your spouse, it would be 2 persons. Choose one parent as the 'principal immigrant (part 2) and enter the other in Part 3.

Good luck!

[ritbiv 95]

I am sponsoring my both parents and they are going through embassy (not AOS).

On part 5 of I 864 I have to put household size.

There are 2 people in the household now.

Adding my parents becomes 4 but I don't know in which part do I add my mother if it is my father's I 864 and vice versa.

Also, where on I-864 do I mention that there is a second person immigrating?

For additinal immigrating member;

On part 3 check the question number 2. Then enter the details of the person in the section Family Member 1.(Q 2.a to 2.f)

Also enter 2 on line 7 of part 3.

For the household member portion fill up both your mom and dad's I864 in the following way

Part 5. Question 1 you need to enter 2 (1 for your mom +1 for your dad)

Yourself is already 1

And the other household member should be entered at the applicable space.Enter 0 in all other inapplicable spaces.

Enter 4 in the total line.

[JohnR! 5,495]

:thumbs: I stand corrected!

For additinal immigrating member;

On part 3 check the question number 2. Then enter the details of the person in the section Family Member 1.(Q 2.a to 2.f)
Also enter 2 on line 7 of part 3.

For the household member portion fill up both your mom and dad's I864 in the following way

Part 5. Question 1 you need to enter 2 (1 for your mom +1 for your dad)
Yourself is already 1
And the other household member should be entered at the applicable space.Enter 0 in all other inapplicable spaces.
Enter 4 in the total line.

[MarinaMaya 3]

:thumbs: I stand corrected!

Thank you.

They really try to confuse you by saying do not include any relative listed on a separate visa petition.

[ritbiv 95]

Thank you.

They really try to confuse you by saying do not include any relative listed on a separate visa petition.

Just found this. http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/229573-i-864-filing-simultaneously-for-both-parents-help-needed-with-household-size/

I think I was wrong earlier about the household size part. So you have filed two petitions right? Then the total household member will be 3 in both of the forms. Do, confirm this again by calling NVC.

This is indeed so complicated.

Edited February 10, 2015 by ritbiv

[JohnR! 5,495]

Yikes...

Let's go by parts..

Have you already submitted the I-864? My presumption is that you didn't yet.

I looked at the form in this link: http://www.uscis.gov/i-864

and in Par5 - Sponsor's Household Size it reads:

1 - Enter the # you entered on line 7 past 3: 2 (if you're using one 864 for both parents)

2 - Yourself: 1

3 - If you're married enter 1: 1

4 - If you have children: 0

5 - Other dependents: 0

6 - Other persons in another 864 0 (presuming you haven't)

7 - Siblings, parents, etc: 0 (presuming it's only you and spouse)

8 - Add togehter for House Hold Size: 4

It seems to me that 4 would be the correct entry if it's only you and your spouse, no kids and you're sponsoring both parents in one I-864...

Does it make sense?

Thank you.

They really try to confuse you by saying do not include any relative listed on a separate visa petition.

Just found this. http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/229573-i-864-filing-simultaneously-for-both-parents-help-needed-with-household-size/

I think I was wrong earlier about the household size part. So you have filed two petitions right? Then the total household member will be 3 in both of the forms. Do, confirm this again by calling NVC.

This is indeed so complicated.

[ritbiv 95]

Yikes...

Let's go by parts..

Have you already submitted the I-864? My presumption is that you didn't yet.

I looked at the form in this link: http://www.uscis.gov/i-864

and in Par5 - Sponsor's Household Size it reads:

1 - Enter the # you entered on line 7 past 3: 2 (if you're using one 864 for both parents)

2 - Yourself: 1

3 - If you're married enter 1: 1

4 - If you have children: 0

5 - Other dependents: 0

6 - Other persons in another 864 0 (presuming you haven't)

7 - Siblings, parents, etc: 0 (presuming it's only you and spouse)

8 - Add togehter for House Hold Size: 4

It seems to me that 4 would be the correct entry if it's only you and your spouse, no kids and you're sponsoring both parents in one I-864...

Does it make sense?

Yea it does make sense now. But I also read that there should be two separate petitions for mom and dad. In that case the calculation will be somewhat different as there will be two I864, right?

1 - Enter the # you entered on line 7 past 3: 1 (if you're using two I864 for both parents)

2 - Yourself: 1

3 - If you're married enter 1: 1

4 - If you have children: 0

5 - Other dependents: 0

6 - Other persons in another 864: 0

7 - Siblings, parents, etc: 0 (presuming it's only you and spouse)

8 - Add togehter for House Hold Size: 3

Is this ok?

Edited February 10, 2015 by ritbiv

[JohnR! 5,495]

If you're using one I-864 then yes, each would total a household of 3. The reason I posted the link to the document I was referring to is because I believe you can now used one single document for both parents. (The document indicates you can use it for up to 6 immigrants!)

Yea it does make sense now. But I also read that there should be two separate petitions for mom and dad. In that case the calculation will be somewhat different as there will be two I864, right?

1 - Enter the # you entered on line 7 past 3: 1 (if you're using two I864 for both parents)

2 - Yourself: 1

3 - If you're married enter 1: 1

4 - If you have children: 0

5 - Other dependents: 0

6 - Other persons in another 864 1 (mom and dad separate petition)

7 - Siblings, parents, etc: 0 (presuming it's only you and spouse)

8 - Add togehter for House Hold Size: 4

Is this ok?

[ritbiv 95]

If you're using one I-864 then yes, each would total a household of 3. The reason I posted the link to the document I was referring to is because I believe you can now used one single document for both parents. (The document indicates you can use it for up to 6 immigrants!)

Then the previous calculation would be perfect. I just wanted to make sure I didn't give any wrong information to the OP.

[JohnR! 5,495]

I'm with you on this one. I believe the document was changed at some point to allow for multiple beneficiaries.

Then the previous calculation would be perfect. I just wanted to make sure I didn't give any wrong information to the OP.

[MarinaMaya 3]

I see. I thought multiple beneficiaries can happen when there is somebody following.

For example if my mom was married second time her husband could follow and he would be on the same application.

I was even thinking, what if I don't file separately for them but register my dad as following my mom :-) .

No I didn't file i -864 yet.

[dhlunar 25]

Wife petitioned both parents at the same time and filed the I-864 with a household size of 3 for each form. NVC or the Embassy didn't have any issues with the I-864.

I got my information from the instructions for the I-864 page 5. Based on my understanding of the instructions Part 5 Item Number 6 implies that if the person has not immigrated already to the US then you don't consider them.

Edited February 12, 2015 by dhlunar

[practicalposts 0]

Wife petitioned both parents at the same time and filed the I-864 with a household size of 3 for each form. NVC or the Embassy didn't have any issues with the I-864.

I got my information from the instructions for the I-864 page 5. Based on my understanding of the instructions Part 5 Item Number 6 implies that if the person has not immigrated already to the US then you don't consider them.

Your reply is accurate. Rest of responses are inaccurate partially or completely.