Proof of relationship in last 2 years for I-129F

[ChasUno 101]

Hi all,

My partner and I are almost close to having all documents, evidence and forms ready for submitting our I-129F application. With regards to submitting proof of a relationship evidence over the past 2 years, does it matter if the evidence is from the benefitionary or does it have to come from the petitioner? The reason I ask this is that I (the benefitionary) am the one who mainly travelled to the USA to be with my partner, plus I managed to keep nearly all my boarding passes so have those as evidence. Also, with regards to phone bills, I always call my partner as I have phone plan that gives me free international calls, so as he doesn't have free international calls I always call him. I have copies of all these phone bills.

Therefore, as the benefitionary, I have the following in my name from the last two years:

Copies of boarding passes + relevant itineraries

Copies of some hotel bills

Copies of phone bill showing my partner's USA phone number

Can my partner, as the USA petitioner filing the I-129F, send in copies of my documents as evidence as well as their own?

Many thanks!

[Pianist27 31]

At the petition stage you need to provide proof that you have met in the past two years. Boarding passes and hotel bills are great, and photocopies of those are fine (I sent copies, no originals). Throw in a few pictures of yourselves together, because even though pictures are not primary evidence (and cannot be used in the absence of anything else), adjudicators are human, and so are the folks later on at the embassy who will see your entire submission.

[Pitaya 2,577]

Hi all,

My partner and I are almost close to having all documents, evidence and forms ready for submitting our I-129F application. With regards to submitting proof of a relationship evidence over the past 2 years, does it matter if the evidence is from the benefitionary or does it have to come from the petitioner? The reason I ask this is that I (the benefitionary) am the one who mainly travelled to the USA to be with my partner, plus I managed to keep nearly all my boarding passes so have those as evidence. Also, with regards to phone bills, I always call my partner as I have phone plan that gives me free international calls, so as he doesn't have free international calls I always call him. I have copies of all these phone bills.

Therefore, as the benefitionary, I have the following in my name from the last two years:

Copies of boarding passes + relevant itineraries

Copies of some hotel bills

Copies of phone bill showing my partner's USA phone number

Can my partner, as the USA petitioner filing the I-129F, send in copies of my documents as evidence as well as their own?

Many thanks!

easily accessible at the top of the of the forum page. In particular, the K1 Visa Guide: http://www.visajourney.com/content/k1guide Do you notice any mention of a specific source requirement for the relationship evidence? My then-fiancee and myself submitted, without issue, document copies and photos from both of us.

Good luck on your immigration journey.

Edited February 8, 2015 by A&B

[ChasUno 101]

Thank you A&B! I have been going through the guides as much as I can (they are an absolute godsend), but forgive me for forgetting some of the info. Having spent the last few days assembling the I-129F package as much as I can to send to my fiance in the USA, my head is spinning!

[Nich-Nick 3,354]

They need to see you two met in person face to face at least one time in the last two years, as opposed to being Facebook friends who plan to marry having never actually met in person. Your stuff, your partner's stuff...whatever you have showing you were in the same place.

[ChasUno 101]

They need to see you two met in person face to face at least one time in the last two years, as opposed to being Facebook friends who plan to marry having never actually met in person. Your stuff, your partner's stuff...whatever you have showing you were in the same place.

We have been together 14 times since we first met in June 2011. In the last two years we've met 7 times, both here in the UK and over in the USA. I have nearly all my boarding passes for the trips made in the past two years, all flight itineraries, some hotel bills and a selection of phone bills, and also photographs of the two of us together, some showing world famous landmarks behind us (i.e. Tower Bridge in London). I am sending copies of all these to my partner in the USA to file with the complete I-129F.

[coniefl 28]

At the petition stage you need to provide proof that you have met in the past two years. Boarding passes and hotel bills are great, and photocopies of those are fine (I sent copies, no originals). Throw in a few pictures of yourselves together, because even though pictures are not primary evidence (and cannot be used in the absence of anything else), adjudicators are human, and so are the folks later on at the embassy who will see your entire submission.

If photos are not considered primary evidence what is?

I can't think of anything more concrete than photos, sure boarding passes hotel bills, itineraries, passport stamps, etc, shows that you've been to the country where your fiance lives but that doesn't really show that you actually met in person while you were there, so I cant see any of those being considered primary evidence as well.

[Nich-Nick 3,354]

If photos are not considered primary evidence what is?

I can't think of anything more concrete than photos, sure boarding passes hotel bills, itineraries, passport stamps, etc, shows that you've been to the country where your fiance lives but that doesn't really show that you actually met in person while you were there, so I cant see any of those being considered primary evidence as well.

I tend to agree with your logic. Just because I flew to England doesn't really prove I met my fiancé. But that's what "they" say is primary evidence. Go figure.

I did pin down our meetings a little closer because we found we each had receipts with our name printed on them (from the credit card) putting us in the same store, same town, same date, same register. Best Buy in the US and Harrod's in London.

[baron555 934]

If photos are not considered primary evidence what is?

I can Photoshop photos of us meeting anywhere in the world.

I can't think of anything more concrete than photos, sure boarding passes hotel bills, itineraries, passport stamps, etc, shows that you've been to the country

Yes they do....

where your fiance lives but that doesn't really show that you actually met in person while you were there, ....and when combined with all the other evidences

so I cant see any of those being considered primary evidence as well. Passport stamps and boarding passes are much harder or illegal to falsify.

[-Shana- 152]

I think the key piece of evidence is photographs.

I scanned in pages of our passports/flight itineraries just to have the official documented proof that we were in the countries we have shown we were in and weren't photoshopped or something .

If you're living separately then it's good to include evidence you are continuing your relationship from afar - so phone bills/screen shots of chats is worth putting in there. No need to go OTT with it, just one or two pieces of evidence that you're still in touch is enough.

For me it was a flight that my fiance had booked to see me at Christmas, which was after we filed I-129f, so that was sufficient to show we were still in a relationship.

Edited February 10, 2015 by shana.mike

[coniefl 28]

coniefl, on 10 Feb 2015 - 08:39 AM, said:

If photos are not considered primary evidence what is?

I can Photoshop photos of us meeting anywhere in the world.

I can't think of anything more concrete than photos, sure boarding passes hotel bills, itineraries, passport stamps, etc, shows that you've been to the country

Yes they do....

where your fiance lives but that doesn't really show that you actually met in person while you were there, ....and when combined with all the other evidences

so I cant see any of those being considered primary evidence as well. Passport stamps and boarding passes are much harder or illegal to falsify.

As stated, passport stamps and boarding passes, whether falsified or not only shows that you have been to a particular country, they say nothing about who you met and what you did while you were there.

So essentially there really is nothing by itself that is considered primary evidence, it has to be a combination of various articles of proof.

[baron555 934]

Hi all,

My partner and I are almost close to having all documents, evidence and forms ready for submitting our I-129F application. With regards to submitting proof of a relationship evidence over the past 2 years,

This is not needed now. Only need evidence of proof of meeting in person within the past two years....NOT proof of relationship. Save that for the Interview.

[MacUK 983]

If photos are not considered primary evidence what is?

I can't think of anything more concrete than photos, sure boarding passes hotel bills, itineraries, passport stamps, etc, shows that you've been to the country where your fiance lives but that doesn't really show that you actually met in person while you were there, so I cant see any of those being considered primary evidence as well.

A photo can prove you've met in person, what it can't prove is that it was within the last two years. Unless of course the photo shows you both at a specific event or with a copy of that days paper.

Boarding passes and such like may not guarantee you spent the time with that person but they do show the exact time period with the presumption that if you're in the same country as your beloved then you'd probably spend time together.

The rules only have to make sense to the people making them

[ChasUno 101]

Hi all,

My partner and I are almost close to having all documents, evidence and forms ready for submitting our I-129F application. With regards to submitting proof of a relationship evidence over the past 2 years,

This is not needed now. Only need evidence of proof of meeting in person within the past two years....NOT proof of relationship. Save that for the Interview.

I guess I am seeing them both as one and the same thing (relationship and proof of meeting in person). Also, going through the I-129F checklist guide as found on this forum, I'm including a selection of the recommended evidence (boarding passes, itineraries, hotel bills, photographs, phone bills, emails). To me these all go to show proof of meeting AND a relationship!

[ChasUno 101]

Just wondering with regards to filing the I-129F, should I or shouldn't I include copies of emails and phone bills? As mentioned above, I plan on sending copies of my boarding passes for the trips made in the past two years, all flight itineraries, some hotel bills and also photographs of the two of us together.

Should I hold off on sending copies of the emails and phone bills and keep them for the actual interview, or would it be a good idea to include them with the initial filing of the I-129F?