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You find it is unreasonable to confront isis .. If you do nothing then sometime in the near future the royal family will be hung on the cross and all Englishmen shall kiss the hand of your master. .. isis

Are you asking me or telling me what I believe?

What I actually believe is that ISIS is the direct result of a series of bad foreign policy decisions on the part of the US and UK governments, decisions I think should have resulted in lengthy jail sentences for the people at the top.

I don't find it unreasonable to confront isis. I find it unreasonable to yabber on about how executing randoms has any bearing on the true problem. How do you deal with this problem? With more war? Do you want to pay for it? Better than that, do you want to fight in it

While you're doing that, maybe put some thought into what comes after. The people who got us into this mess sure didn't. But then you were on board with it weren't you.

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It is all about respect and Jordan can be respected. ISIS should start worrying as there seems to be a country with balls that is now PO'ed.

Good on Jordan for standing by their words... Daesh needs to be crushed and eradicated.

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When you're dealing with people who can't be reasoned with, it's unclear what can be achieved on that front.

The real issue here is whether or not the international community should get involved in yet another decade long war in the middle east.

I don't like to preach war. Going into Iraq in 2003 was a huge mistake. Firing the entire Iraqi army shortly thereafter and leaving 300,000 military trained ex-soldiers unemployed in a country in chaos - Even worse. Believing a 'democratically' elected Nouri Al-Maliki would bring peace and democracy to a country deeply torn by sectarian hatred and violence.. Absurd.

Sadly, the Iraq war, coupled with the Syrial civil war laid the groundwork for what has now become ISIS.

However, there comes a time when you've gotta roll up your sleeves and say 'enough is enough.' ISIS is a well-organized group of nut jobs equaling Nazi Germany and North Korea as far as barbarity goes. We've gotten used to beheadings - Sadly. That's what the lunatics in Al Qaida have been doing for a decade already. We've gotten used to mass executions. We've gotten used to genocide, because "1,500 yezidis killed" is a statistic in a news report which can easily be overlooked. But to douse a guy in gasoline, lock him in a cage and set him on fire, then broadcast it on the big screen in Raqqa like it was the world cup final.. If that becomes another "it's just what they do over there", history will judge us, and rightfully so.

ISIS needs to be exterminated like the vermin it is - Preferably by one of it's Sunni Arab neighbors, and if not, by anyone willing and able. If anything good comes out of this, it'll be King Abdullah standing by his word of bringing the fight to ISIS. He certainly looks ready.

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The larger debate on waterboarding has nothing to do with the feelings of terrorists. It has everything to do with the legitimacy, support and effectiveness of our combat and military operations. For example in order to effectively fight ISIS.

One of the reasons we struggle to fight ISIS is because the words "Abu Ghraib", "Guantanamo" and "Waterboarding" are still fresh in the minds of those we're trying to prevent from joining ISIS.

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I don't like to preach war. Going into Iraq in 2003 was a huge mistake. Firing the entire Iraqi army shortly thereafter and leaving 300,000 military trained ex-soldiers unemployed in a country in chaos - Even worse. Believing a 'democratically' elected Nouri Al-Maliki would bring peace and democracy to a country deeply torn by sectarian hatred and violence.. Absurd.

Sadly, the Iraq war, coupled with the Syrial civil war laid the groundwork for what has now become ISIS.

However, there comes a time when you've gotta roll up your sleeves and say 'enough is enough.' ISIS is a well-organized group of nut jobs equaling Nazi Germany and North Korea as far as barbarity goes. We've gotten used to beheadings - Sadly. That's what the lunatics in Al Qaida have been doing for a decade already. We've gotten used to mass executions. We've gotten used to genocide, because "1,500 yezidis killed" is a statistic in a news report which can easily be overlooked. But to douse a guy in gasoline, lock him in a cage and set him on fire, then broadcast it on the big screen in Raqqa like it was the world cup final.. If that becomes another "it's just what they do over there", history will judge us, and rightfully so.

ISIS needs to be exterminated like the vermin it is - Preferably by one of it's Sunni Arab neighbors, and if not, by anyone willing and able. If anything good comes out of this, it'll be King Abdullah standing by his word of bringing the fight to ISIS. He certainly looks ready.

B9CBiVOIYAAj3Ti.jpg

The larger debate on waterboarding has nothing to do with the feelings of terrorists. It has everything to do with the legitimacy, support and effectiveness of our combat and military operations. For example in order to effectively fight ISIS.

One of the reasons we struggle to fight ISIS is because the words "Abu Ghraib", "Guantanamo" and "Waterboarding" are still fresh in the minds of those we're trying to prevent from joining ISIS.

I agree but don't forget that Nazi Germany was a major European military power with an established central government and infrastructure that had battlefield technology and equipment far better than what the allies were able to field. We didn't fight them because they were evil, it's because they wanted more territory.

There's no doubt that ISIS is a barbaric regime, but the western world has been perfectly happy to coexist with such people. At least until they have something that we want.

The difference here is the technology now exists that you can see what these people are doing in real time. Before that people just read about it.

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