End prison perks for ‘fake’ Muslims

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Who's afraid to say what?

Muslim terrorism.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Muslim terrorism.

Who's afraid to say it?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2015/02/01/why-doesnt-obama-say-islamic-terrorism.cnn

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I don't see fear as the reason not to beat that stupid drum. I see the reason in not wanting to beat that stupid drum. Terrorism is terrorism. Doesn't need a qualifier.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

B.S. That is an excuse born out of fear. We know who they are. We know their goal is to spread their version of Islam to the rest of the world and they do that by committing acts of terrorism.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

B.S. That is an excuse born out of fear. We know who they are. We know their goal is to spread their version of Islam to the rest of the world and they do that by committing acts of terrorism.

That's B.S. I know that don't live in fear. I provided the reason for why I don't jump onto that bandwagon that you and HC and many others would like everyone to jump onto.

If their goal is to spread their version if Islam, maybe they ought to consider killing fewer followers of Islam. That's what their body count primarily is - Muslims.

Edited February 6, 2015 by Mr. Big Dog

[GandD 5,966]

Splitting hairs. You can't have a rational conversation about Islamic terrorism. The right pundits act like every Muslim supports this and the left pundits act like Islam has nothing to do with it. Well it does and not every Muslim is a terrorist.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Splitting hairs. You can't have a rational conversation about Islamic terrorism. The right pundits act like every Muslim supports this and the left pundits act like Islam has nothing to do with it. Well it does and not every Muslim is a terrorist.

What exactly does Islam have to do with it? If Islam is the basis and/ or reason for the terrorism then would it not mean that those Muslims that are not engaged in nor supportive of said terrorism - that would be the vast majority of the Muslim population - are not actually following Islam? Are we saying that the only true followers of Islam are the tiny minority of Muslims that are terrorists? That doesn't even make any sense to make that argument. And if that isn't the argument, then it follows that Islam has nothing to do with the terrorism perpetrated by people claiming to be followers of Islam.

[decocker 7,198]

Splitting hairs. You can't have a rational conversation about Islamic terrorism. The right pundits act like every Muslim supports this and the left pundits act like Islam has nothing to do with it. Well it does and not every Muslim is a terrorist.

i don't think islam has nothing to do with it. that would be like saying christianity had nothing to do with crusades. it is what it is.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

i don't think islam has nothing to do with it. that would be like saying christianity had nothing to do with crusades. it is what it is.

Hold on a second there. The crusades were military campaigns sanctioned by the Roman Catholic Church. The church was really driving them. How is that equivalent to the terrorism perpetrated by ISIS or Al-Qaeda or Al-Shabaab or whathaveyou? There's no church driving that. Unless you consider the leaders of these terror organizations to be something like the pope was to the Catholics back in the day. I'd argue that these criminals are not leading a following of any magnitude.

[GandD 5,966]

What exactly does Islam have to do with it? If Islam is the basis and/ or reason for the terrorism then would it not mean that those Muslims that are not engaged in nor supportive of said terrorism - that would be the vast majority of the Muslim population - are not actually following Islam? Are we saying that the only true followers of Islam are the tiny minority of Muslims that are terrorists? That doesn't even make any sense to make that argument. And if that isn't the argument, then it follows that Islam has nothing to do with the terrorism perpetrated by people claiming to be followers of Islam.

No it wouldn't mean that. Religion is up to interpretation because some folks choose to accept/not accept certain parts of the word. How many times here has it been pointed out that the bible condones all sorts of terrorist activity yet you'd be hard pressed to find anyone actually following these hard lined excerpts. Without religion, you'd have to find some other reason for people to die like nationalism or whatever. Look at the truth of what Islam condones (and the bible if you wish). They're relics from a past stupidity and superstition that we can do without. And why do you guys keep comparing Christianity's past with Islam's present? DEFLECTION. Its pointless deflection and kicks the problem we're facing right now down the road. Religion doesn't free anyone, it traps them. People will spend their entire life without alcohol, pork, sex, or even their own choice of clothing for NOTHING. They will die and that will be it. All the sacrifice, all the atonement, all just to limit the experiences they could have had in what WILL be their only experience of life.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Religion doesn't free anyone, it traps them. People will spend their entire life without alcohol, pork, sex, or even their own choice of clothing for NOTHING. They will die and that will be it. All the sacrifice, all the atonement, all just to limit the experiences they could have had in what WILL be their only experience of life.

Are you the Antichrist? Religion, like alcohol, or marijuana, or potato chips, can either be enjoyed sensibly, or can be destructive.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

No it wouldn't mean that. Religion is up to interpretation because some folks choose to accept/not accept certain parts of the word. How many times here has it been pointed out that the bible condones all sorts of terrorist activity yet you'd be hard pressed to find anyone actually following these hard lined excerpts. Without religion, you'd have to find some other reason for people to die like nationalism or whatever. Look at the truth of what Islam condones (and the bible if you wish). They're relics from a past stupidity and superstition that we can do without. And why do you guys keep comparing Christianity's past with Islam's present? DEFLECTION. Its pointless deflection and kicks the problem we're facing right now down the road. Religion doesn't free anyone, it traps them. People will spend their entire life without alcohol, pork, sex, or even their own choice of clothing for NOTHING. They will die and that will be it. All the sacrifice, all the atonement, all just to limit the experiences they could have had in what WILL be their only experience of life.

Islam's present? What about it? It has well over a billion followers and well over a billion of these followers do neither perpetrate nor condone any terrorism but are people much like you and me. Well, not like you and me since you and me are apparently both not following any religion but you get what I mean. If Islam was the driving force behind terrorism as we are to believe then why are well over a billion of its followers failing to get the message?

[decocker 7,198]

I'd argue that these criminals are not leading a following of any magnitude.

sure they are. same in my mind. religion = bad.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

No it wouldn't mean that. Religion is up to interpretation because some folks choose to accept/not accept certain parts of the word. How many times here has it been pointed out that the bible condones all sorts of terrorist activity yet you'd be hard pressed to find anyone actually following these hard lined excerpts. Without religion, you'd have to find some other reason for people to die like nationalism or whatever. Look at the truth of what Islam condones (and the bible if you wish). They're relics from a past stupidity and superstition that we can do without. And why do you guys keep comparing Christianity's past with Islam's present? DEFLECTION. Its pointless deflection and kicks the problem we're facing right now down the road. Religion doesn't free anyone, it traps them. People will spend their entire life without alcohol, pork, sex, or even their own choice of clothing for NOTHING. They will die and that will be it. All the sacrifice, all the atonement, all just to limit the experiences they could have had in what WILL be their only experience of life.

You don't have to look at Christianity's past, by the way. Christians slaughter people in the present, too. There's the burning (yes, alive) of "witches" in Kenya done by Christians. That's in the now. There's the genocide against Muslims perpetrated in former Yugoslavia in recent history, more genocide very recently perpetrated by Christians against the Muslim minority in the Central African Republic, Christians killing, grilling and eating their Muslim enemies in Nigeria. Or how about the mass slaughter in Rwanda in the 1990's? Though not motivated by religion, Rwanda is 95% Christian. Thus, the atrocities there were committed by Christians - at least that's how these monsters self identify. Let's not pretend that all this hasn't happened in the very recent past and that this isn't happening even as I type this. Sure, we hear not much about it in the daily news feeds because most of this happens where we frankly don't give two sh!ts.

Edited February 7, 2015 by Mr. Big Dog