Gone with the Rant

[SAT 9,609]

I believe China can't control their huge population, the food quality..., provide enough jobs etc

So they allow their people to go outside of the country whether legally or illegally....

You think the fooks in your NYC will want to go back to China and live?

7 years after the melamine scandal broke out, China still can't eradicate the problem.

Fooks are like locusts, cockroaches......

Mainlanders in general.

I'm sure Singaporeans feel the same.

[Merrytooth 5,748]

Condo= lower fees than co-ops

really?

A $200K condo here in MN, has association fees of $340 monthly

A $230K town house only needs to pay association fees of $165 monthly

[Merrytooth 5,748]

7 years after the melamine scandal broke out, China still can't eradicate the problem.

Fooks are like locusts, cockroaches......

Mainlanders in general.

I'm sure Singaporeans feel the same.

Singaporeans are already feeling the heat.. just that the govt is blind to the problems, insisting on importing more people to boast the economy.

And it is not just the fooks like locusts, cockroaches, there is also another group of people behaving the same way...

[SAT 9,609]

Singaporeans are already feeling the heat.. just that the govt is blind to the problems, insisting on importing more people to boast the economy.

And it is not just the fooks like locusts, cockroaches, there is also another group of people behaving the same way...

From Malaysia? India?

really?

A $200K condo here in MN, has association fees of $340 monthly

A $230K town house only needs to pay association fees of $165 monthly

I didn't say town house you Fook.

I said co-op.

You never heard of a co-op?

Co-op

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_(real_estate)

[Merrytooth 5,748]

From Malaysia? India?

I didn't say town house you Fook.

I said co-op.

You never heard of a co-op?

Co-op

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_(real_estate)

1) lol.. I can't disclose here, since some people will be super sensitive and feel offended

2) I never heard of co-op housing.

[SAT 9,609]

1) lol.. I can't disclose here, since some people will be super sensitive and feel offended

2) I never heard of co-op housing.

I read about Singrapore.....

2- duh.

3- speaking of duh, where's the chimpanchump.....

Edited February 16, 2015 by SAT

[JohnR! 5,495]

Not if you can make your argument cogently, like the author of the copy below:

http://democraticreformparty.weebly.com/an-analysis-on-the-influx-of-foreigners.html

An analysis of the influx of foreigners in Singapore

An Introduction to the issue
Singapore has been accepting immigrants from other countries since the 1970s. However, over the last decade, the number of immigrants coming to Singapore increased from 248,000 in 1990 to 670,000 in 2006. Lately, in 2010, it has been reported that out of 5 million people in Singapore, only about 3.2 million are Singaporeans, meaning about 1.8 million people are foreigners, and about 1.3 million are not residents in Singapore. This sharp increase in the number of immigrants has brought about much flak amongst Singaporeans, especially netizens, who claim these immigrants bring about new challenges and setbacks, It was a hot button issue, frequently mentioned during the 2011 General Elections. There a host of reasons as to explain the influx of foreigners in Singapore, which will be discussed in the following paragraph.


Causes
To make up for Singapore’s falling population and birth rate
With the influx of foreigners, some may choose to permanently live in Singapore and become a Singapore citizen. Since the country is facing a falling population and birth rate (Total Fertility Rate of 1.2 of last year), we have to resort to importing foreigners into Singapore to maintain the population in the country.

Improving bilateral ties
Accepting a large number of foreigners into the country can be seen as a gesture to improve bilateral ties. Accepting of foreign workers, gives the workers a livelihood, Take China or India for instance, Singapore brings in many Chinese and Indian nationals who seek to earn a living and bring money back home, improving not only Singapore’s economy, but China’s and India’s economy as well. China and India are currently huge economies and by improving our ties with them, we are opening up opportunities for possible future trade agreements which in turn also benefits Singapore’s economic status.

The need for a larger talent pool
Talent is critical in helping Singapore become an outstanding city. Singapore’s falling population has caused a shrink in our talent pool, and despite the considerate number of talented Singaporeans, it is not enough if we want our country to continue to prosper. Accepting talented foreigners, or foreign talent, into our country will help our country to advance in many aspects, including architecture, sports and the economy. A larger number of foreign talent will help to ease our current local talents’ burden of maintaining the country’s progress in various sectors.

Incentives of hiring foreign workers
Foreign workers tend to accept a lower wage than Singaporeans and are thus cheap labour for companies to turn to. They also help increase productivity, leading to increased revenue. This is the main reason as to why foreign workers are hired.



Effects

Overpopulation- leading to issues arising in mental and physical health
Due to the influx of foreigners Singapore faces overpopulation. This can be seen clearly as the government needs to build more HDB flats, which will lead to rising housing costs, yet the spaces of the flats are decreasing in size. In addition, with more foreigners migrating into Singapore, they at any chance may bring in an undiagnosed superbug into the country. With the large population that we have, the bug may spread like wildfire among the people and another outbreak of pandemic, like SARS that happened in 2003. Singapore is the second most densely populated country in the world with 6,802 people per square kilometre.


Loss of national identity/ Singaporeans habouring feeling of unhappiness and dissatisfaction over the influx
Singaporeans, upset by the increasingly competitive and stressful situation brought about by foreigners, will harbour feelings of unhappiness and dissatisfaction and lose faith in the government.The large numbers of foreigners as well as the changes brought about will cause Singaporeans to lose the sense of belonging they used to experience. This could result in the loss of national identity amongst Singaporeans which could prove detrimental to societal security.


A strain on resources
If the number of foreign workers increase rapidly, these may cause a strain in Singapore’s resources. Singapore needs to provide basic necessities to these foreign workers such as housing, healthcare, transport, food and water. However, since Singapore has a limited amount of land, and no natural resources, it will not be sustainable for Singapore to keep providing for these workers, causing a great decrease in resources which can also result in a lower standard of living not only for foreigners but also for Singaporeans.


An overly competitive society
As more and more immigrants come to Singapore, the competition for jobs, housings and other requirements become higher. This leads to unnecessary stress and over competitiveness which can disrupt societal harmony. Singaporeans will not longer be able to live their lives to the fullest and this can aggravate the already sour ties between foreigners and Singaporeans. Mental illnesses will also become increasingly common in a place where your societal standing and income are given more than adequate importance.


Over-dependency on foreign talent

With the increase in the number of foreign talent in Singapore, Singaporeans feel outdone by these immigrants and start to lose their drive. The society will start to rely more heavily on the foreigners to improve current standards in Singapore and as such, locals lose the motivation to strive for excellence in Singapore. This leads Singaporeans to feel complacent and not struggle to excel so as to benefit their country. This is a major misunderstanding on the part of the Singaporeans that the foreigners were allowed into the country to take over the duty of maintaining the prosperity of the country, when in truth, they are here to assist the local talents in making the city outstanding.



Conclusion

Though there are numerous benefits brought about by bringing in foreign workers, it is clear that when brought here in excess, foreigners too can prove detrimental to national identity, a strain on resources, decreasing the standard of living and even bringing about health problems. This is an issue of much concern that has to be tended to as soon as possible or its consequences could be detrimental to this small island state we call home. Fret not, it's not too late to start. There is still hope for a a harmonious and inclusive society, a happier nation. The Democratic Reform Party has solutions for you.

Disclaimer: This website is part of a school project and is meant for educational purposes only. The views expressed herein do not represent the views of any individuals, groups, political parties and/or organizations outside of Crescent Girls’ School. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

The prime minister's take on tackling the influx of foreign immigrants- National Day Rally 2010

1) lol.. I can't disclose here, since some people will be super sensitive and feel offended

2) I never heard of co-op housing.

[SAT 9,609]

It forced toothache and brat to flee Singrapore!

And made them mental!

John John....hold on.....time out, post too long!

Tarklar can't read....

We b1tch, whine, moan, gripe, and rant......

We also use profanity......

[SAT 9,609]

Holy John's post just put Tarklars record posts to shame.....

Speaking of Tarklar, I'm all constipated.....

[TBoneTX 45,580]

Sinuses.....up.....stuffy.....neti pot.....rinse.....

On the bright side, snot has a very high salt content, si man.

I hope you get a Many dollar electric bill.....

You nailed the exact figure, whee man!

So went to work early....

:rofl: , ha ha man.

Edited February 16, 2015 by TBoneTX

[SAT 9,609]

Oh well if it isn't Mr chimp face and monkey brain......

[TBoneTX 45,580]

Go knock up your wife again.

This post needs to be enshrined in the pantheon of All-Time Greatest VJ Come-Backs, whee ma'am.

1. I want your prego pics.

2. I just went outside for breakfast

1. Preggo pix now from everyone, see ma'ams.

2. If you had a What's Her Face who cooked, see man...

Some ppl need to be strangled!

Beware the wrath of the fearsome Ontarklar, shudder man!

the grocery stores operate Many hours

standalone or town houses priced at Many-ManyK

having to pay about Many% more

Real estate figures corrected, see ma'am.

Went back to bed when he knows the Tornado wants to go out to play.

I made sure to make lots of noise

Somebody's in the First Manymester, whee D ma'am! Preggo fotos now, see D ma'am.

he is disrupting my schedual with the kids and now I have a fussy boy!

Somebody's in the First Manymester, whee D ma'am! Preggo fotos now, see D ma'am.

Edited February 16, 2015 by TBoneTX

[Merrytooth 5,748]

Not if you can make your argument cogently, like the author of the copy below:

http://democraticreformparty.weebly.com/an-analysis-on-the-influx-of-foreigners.html

An analysis of the influx of foreigners in Singapore

Causes

To make up for Singapore’s falling population and birth rate

With the influx of foreigners, some may choose to permanently live in Singapore and become a Singapore citizen. Since the country is facing a falling population and birth rate (Total Fertility Rate of 1.2 of last year), we have to resort to importing foreigners into Singapore to maintain the population in the country.

Improving bilateral ties

Accepting a large number of foreigners into the country can be seen as a gesture to improve bilateral ties. Accepting of foreign workers, gives the workers a livelihood, Take China or India for instance, Singapore brings in many Chinese and Indian nationals who seek to earn a living and bring money back home, improving not only Singapore’s economy, but China’s and India’s economy as well. China and India are currently huge economies and by improving our ties with them, we are opening up opportunities for possible future trade agreements which in turn also benefits Singapore’s economic status.

Since when it is Singapore government duty to provide job opportunities of foreigners because they can't find work in their own country?

To think that India has the cheek to cry foul when Singapore govt decides to cut back the employment pass of foreigners.

Go read up CECA.

http://www.business-standard.com/article/economy-policy/govt-decries-ceca-violation-by-singapore-113021700123_1.html

The truth? Singapore govt is dumb and taken for a fool by these big countries.

We are just a tiny country which nobody gives a real damn.

Heard of Suzhou industrial park? Singapore govt invested many many $$$ in it, was main shareholder initially.

Too naive to think that the Chinese will appreciate the investment. They backstabbed us, Singapore lost a $$$ there and the local newspapers did not even dare to report it.

The need for a larger talent pool

Talent is critical in helping Singapore become an outstanding city. Singapore’s falling population has caused a shrink in our talent pool, and despite the considerate number of talented Singaporeans, it is not enough if we want our country to continue to prosper. Accepting talented foreigners, or foreign talent, into our country will help our country to advance in many aspects, including architecture, sports and the economy. A larger number of foreign talent will help to ease our current local talents’ burden of maintaining the country’s progress in various sectors.

lol.. what type of foreign talents are we talking about here? A foreigner with degrees from unheard university who is willingly to work for $2000, undercutting the local salary? Oh yah, Singapore has NO minimum wage laws.

If we are lacking in certain job sectors, the govt should make changes in Education to make the people relevant.

And you know what, Singapore govt gives out billions of dollars of scholarship to foreigners for them to come here and study for FREE. What do the local students get? Nothing.

If the foreigners are truly talented, it is fine. But the truth is, many of them are not. They are hired because they are cheaper.

The quality of the foreign talents that I met in Singapore can't be compared to the ones I have seen in US (Although certain group of people are capable to talk only but no action, no matter which countries they are in).

How do you feel about being unemployed at the age of 40, with family to feed, mortgage to pay, because your company decides it is cheaper to hire a foreigner for only $2000 to do your job?

Ageism is very much alive in Singapore workplace.

Incentives of hiring foreign workers

Foreign workers tend to accept a lower wage than Singaporeans and are thus cheap labour for companies to turn to. They also help increase productivity, leading to increased revenue. This is the main reason as to why foreign workers are hired.

I have no objection to hiring foreign workers in labor intensive sector. Just like US hiring the hispanics to work in the farms.

Effects

Overpopulation- leading to issues arising in mental and physical health

Due to the influx of foreigners Singapore faces overpopulation. This can be seen clearly as the government needs to build more HDB flats, which will lead to rising housing costs, yet the spaces of the flats are decreasing in size. In addition, with more foreigners migrating into Singapore, they at any chance may bring in an undiagnosed superbug into the country. With the large population that we have, the bug may spread like wildfire among the people and another outbreak of pandemic, like SARS that happened in 2003. Singapore is the second most densely populated country in the world with 6,802 people per square kilometre.

Loss of national identity/ Singaporeans habouring feeling of unhappiness and dissatisfaction over the influx

Singaporeans, upset by the increasingly competitive and stressful situation brought about by foreigners, will harbour feelings of unhappiness and dissatisfaction and lose faith in the government.The large numbers of foreigners as well as the changes brought about will cause Singaporeans to lose the sense of belonging they used to experience. This could result in the loss of national identity amongst Singaporeans which could prove detrimental to societal security.

A strain on resources

If the number of foreign workers increase rapidly, these may cause a strain in Singapore’s resources. Singapore needs to provide basic necessities to these foreign workers such as housing, healthcare, transport, food and water. However, since Singapore has a limited amount of land, and no natural resources, it will not be sustainable for Singapore to keep providing for these workers, causing a great decrease in resources which can also result in a lower standard of living not only for foreigners but also for Singaporeans.

An overly competitive society

As more and more immigrants come to Singapore, the competition for jobs, housings and other requirements become higher. This leads to unnecessary stress and over competitiveness which can disrupt societal harmony. Singaporeans will not longer be able to live their lives to the fullest and this can aggravate the already sour ties between foreigners and Singaporeans. Mental illnesses will also become increasingly common in a place where your societal standing and income are given more than adequate importance.

Since when Singapore has work life balance? What a joke. The Singapore govt keeps rising the retirement age to 67.

They want the Singapore people to work till they die.

Over-dependency on foreign talent

With the increase in the number of foreign talent in Singapore, Singaporeans feel outdone by these immigrants and start to lose their drive. The society will start to rely more heavily on the foreigners to improve current standards in Singapore and as such, locals lose the motivation to strive for excellence in Singapore. This leads Singaporeans to feel complacent and not struggle to excel so as to benefit their country. This is a major misunderstanding on the part of the Singaporeans that the foreigners were allowed into the country to take over the duty of maintaining the prosperity of the country, when in truth, they are here to assist the local talents in making the city outstanding.

Conclusion

Though there are numerous benefits brought about by bringing in foreign workers, it is clear that when brought here in excess, foreigners too can prove detrimental to national identity, a strain on resources, decreasing the standard of living and even bringing about health problems. This is an issue of much concern that has to be tended to as soon as possible or its consequences could be detrimental to this small island state we call home. Fret not, it's not too late to start. There is still hope for a a harmonious and inclusive society, a happier nation. The Democratic Reform Party has solutions for you.

Disclaimer: This website is part of a school project and is meant for educational purposes only. The views expressed herein do not represent the views of any individuals, groups, political parties and/or organizations outside of Crescent Girls’ School. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

The prime minister's take on tackling the influx of foreign immigrants- National Day Rally 2010

Most of the foreigners are in Singapore for economy reasons. Will they stay to defend Singapore?

Probably they will be queuing at Changi Airport for the first flight out.

Singapore has mandatory National Services for males at 18 years old.

Some foreigners are smart to take up citizenship for daughters but not for sons.

I salute those who are willing to serve National Services for Singapore.

These are the foreigners that Singapore should retained.

Here are old people in Singapore having to work to put food on the tables.

Old people selling tissue papers at the train stations for a living.

How many old people do you see in US that have to work that hard?

[TBoneTX 45,580]

Condo= lower fees than co-ops

Condo = endangered California bird of prey, si man.

Condo = method of birth control, si man.

A $ManyK condo here in MN, has association fees of $Many monthly

A $ManyK town house only needs to pay association fees of $Many monthly

I don't discern a difference, no ma'am.

there is also another group of people behaving the same way...

Gringos in Ugly Gringo Shirts, huh ma'am? Got it, first try, whee ma'am.

I can't disclose here, since some people will be super sensitive and feel offended

You just did, see ma'am -- gringos in Ugly Gringo Shirts.

Many- speaking of duh

Speaking of duh, where are your Polish-math skills, huh and duh man?

cogently

Dude, dude... big words confuse Steveklar, sigh man...

1. Holy ###### John's post just put Tarklars record posts to shame.....

2. Speaking of Tarklar, I'm all constipated.....

1. I'll sue him, plaintiff man. Need to find an attorney, lawyer-up man. I know, si man! John's probably a lawyer, convenient man!

2. Bowels no move! (line in a great joke, can't publish man)

[JohnR! 5,495]

I couldn't care less. That's something for the Singaporean government to worry about.

Most of the foreigners are in Singapore for economy reasons. Will they stay to defend Singapore?

Probably they will be queuing at Changi Airport for the first flight out.

Singapore has mandatory National Services for males at 18 years old.

Some foreigners are smart to take up citizenship for daughters but not for sons.

I salute those who are willing to serve National Services for Singapore.

These are the foreigners that Singapore should retained.

Here are old people in Singapore having to work to put food on the tables.

Old people selling tissue papers at the train stations for a living.

How many old people do you see in US that have to work that hard?