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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Finland
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Posted here earlier about getting an appointment letter for biometrics appointment, even though I've been in the country since October 14 (arrived on a IR-1 visa) and already have my green card in hand.

I wrote them a letter explaining I already have the 10 year green card and my biometrics were taken at the embassy and explaining that I can't make it to the Omaha office on such a short notice, since it's about a 20 hours drive.

Today I received another appointment letter with a new biometrics appointment date, this time to the Baltimore office, since I now live in Maryland.

Has anyone else had to go to a biometrics appointment after you've received your permanent resident card? If so, what was the reason?

The USCIS phone service was again useless and they just rudely told me to go to the appointment not offering any explanations on why I have to do biometrics again. I obviously have to go, I just wish I'd know why I have to spend more money (I have to take a cab there and it's an one hour drive), when I already have my card. :cry:

Anyone have any ideas as to why I have to do the biometrics appointment again? Your help is much appreciated!

IR1 took 520 days....

 

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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I'd phone USCIS again, cut off the clueless Customer Disservice front-liners who answer the phone and go into their robotic script, and demand escalation to an actual immigration officer. If the screener gives you any flak, state that they're required to escalate your call at your request.

The few hours spent on the phone and the temporary high blood pressure might prevent your having to go to Baltimore.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Finland
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I'd phone USCIS again, cut off the clueless Customer Disservice front-liners who answer the phone and go into their robotic script, and demand escalation to an actual immigration officer. If the screener gives you any flak, state that they're required to escalate your call at your request.

The few hours spent on the phone and the temporary high blood pressure might prevent your having to go to Baltimore.

Thanks for replying TBoneTX, I really appreciate it! I called USCIS again, spoke to a supervisor, who said they don't know why I got the letter for a biometrics appointment. She said I should go to the appointment to find out why because, and I quote, "nobody here knows why". She also said she can't tell me if I should go or not, when I asked what happens if I don't go to the scheduled appointment.

I'm rather at loss here what to do. Maybe I'll ask husband (the USC) to call them again and see if he gets a different answer. Or maybe I'll write them another letter, I don't know.

Does anyone know what happens if I don't go to the appointment? Can they take away my permanent resident card, if I don't go to the biometrics appointment? I know it seems like peanuts to some, but I really would have better use for that money that I would have to spend on cab rides to Baltimore and back.

IR1 took 520 days....

 

 

Filed: IR-5 Timeline
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On the ASC appointment notice is there a case number on the form?

Is this case number either your original I-130 case or your IOE case number for the green card?

Here is the information regarding the cases for my in-laws (wife, their daughter, is the petitioner under the IR-5 category, Parents of a USC):

Submit I-130 (2 petitions) to USCIS on May 30, 2013

USCIS approved the cases on March 10, 2014.

Received notice online from USCIS the cases were sent to NVC on March 17, 2014.

NVC received the cases on March 28, 2014

The case numbers were created on Monday, April 28.

We received the numbers by phone on Friday, May 2.

DS-261 became available on both cases late in the evening on Friday, May 2. Both DS-261 filed on Saturday, May 3.

Received emails to my wife regarding AOS at around 8am on Wednesday, May 7. At the same time received emails that were cc of letters sent to my in-laws. However, the date of all of the letters was Monday, May 5.

Received emails regarding the Immigrant Visa Fee at around 11:15am on Wednesday, May 7. IV fees became available online at around 1pm on Wednesday, May 7. Date of invoice was Tuesday, May 8.

Paid all the fees on Wednesday, May 7 at around 1:15pm.

All fees marked as paid and DS-260 become available sometime late on Friday, May 9.

Dropped off IV and AOS packages (in two different envelopes - 1 for AOS and 1 for IV documents) at the local post office at around 2pm on Saturday, May 10.

Submitted DS-260 (for both cases) around 10am on Sunday, May 11.

Both document packages received by NVC on Monday, May 12 (according to Post Office Tracking - one around 1pm and the other around 4pm. Don't know why they got separated.)

Received checklist email for both cases at 4pm on Thursday, June 12 regarding the IV civil documents

Wife called NVC in the afternoon of Friday, June 13 to inquire about the checklist. Told by a representative they are normal and automatic and not to worry. AOS under review. Call back after Tuesday, June 24.
Received a checklist for my father-in-law on Monday, June 16. NVC reviewed his AOS paperwork, but waiting for the documents the requested the week before.

Wife called NVC in the morning of Tuesday, June 17. Told by the agent they don't have the document requested for dad, and they don't have the AOS package for her mom.

Put in a request with our Senator to get more information. Response was mother-in-law is documentary complete and father-in-law was in document review for the military document.

Wife called NVC on the morning of Tuesday, July 1 and spoke with a supervisor regarding her dad's military document. Supervisor said she would look into it.

Supervisor called us and left a voicemail on the morning of Wednesday, July 9 and stated they have located my father-in-law's military documents. Case sent back to document review.

Per conversation with an agent, the expedited request originally requested by email on July 7, was sent to the Embassy on Thursday, July 10.

Received by postal mail on Thursday, August 21 from our Senator regarding the response of another inquiry. Still the same.

Early in the morning on Friday, August 22:

Wife calls the Embassy and was told the IV section doesn't accept calls, and was given a number in the states that turned out to be scheduling assistance for NIV interviews.

Called NVC as soon as they opened and was told the Embassy denied the expedite request, but the case was completed by NVC on Monday, August 18. Wife inquired about interview scheduling, and was given some good information.

At 5 PM on Thursday, September 11, received the interview letters. Interview is scheduled for the morning of October 9.

Mother-in-law approved. Father-in-law placed in Administrative Processing due to follow-up TB test.

CEAC stated ISSUED for my mother-in-law on October 15. DHL had the package for pick up on October 17 but called the wrong number. Package picked up on October 27.

On December 11 mother-in-law received a phone call from the Embassy that the medical is back for my father-in-law and to DHL his passport to them. Passport sent on December 12.

On December 18 CEAC updated to ISSUED for my father-in-law. My wife is happy!!!! Embassy said they gave it to DHL on December 19

Due to a DHL delay the package did not become available for pick up until December 24. USCIS Immigrant Fee paid the same day.

POE: JFK Terminal 1 - December 26, 2014 - They are finally here!!!

Took them to a local SSA office to get SSN on January 6, 2015. Cards received on January 10, 2015.

Green Cards received by priority mail on January 23, 2015 (four weeks after arrival).

Both went to motor vehicles and got state issued ID cards on April 11, 2015.

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Finland
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On the ASC appointment notice is there a case number on the form?

Is this case number either your original I-130 case or your IOE case number for the green card?

There is IOE application/petition/request number, which is the same as the receipt number in the GC.

IR1 took 520 days....

 

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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USCIS might refuse to talk with your husband (because it's "your" case) unless you're also on the line.

This is a real red herring; the supervisor recommended that you go, then said that she couldn't tell you whether you should go or not. As for the "no one here knows why," they need to find out. Period. What a cop-out. If the next supervisor is clueless, escalate the call higher until you reach someone with the answer.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Finland
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USCIS might refuse to talk with your husband (because it's "your" case) unless you're also on the line.

This is a real red herring; the supervisor recommended that you go, then said that she couldn't tell you whether you should go or not. As for the "no one here knows why," they need to find out. Period. What a cop-out. If the next supervisor is clueless, escalate the call higher until you reach someone with the answer.

I absolutely agree. Called again and was told "it's probably a computer glitch, so you don't need to go." When I asked what should I do, the person just told me not to go to the appointment. I don't really feel good about just skipping the appointment, so I wrote another letter explaining what I was told by the USCIS customer service and that I won't be coming to the appointment because of that. I also asked them to confirm that they have received the letter and that no further action is required on my part as explained by the USCIS customer service representative. We'll see what happens.

Thank you everyone for your help! If you have any other suggestions regarding what I should do, I'd love to hear them!

IR1 took 520 days....

 

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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I hope that you talked with an actual Immigration Officer than to someone on the Customer Disservice line!

If not, call back (I know -- sigh) and get an IO. If he/she says the same about a computer glitch, get the IO's name and ask him/her to enter the "don't show up - computer glitch" conversation into your permanent record. See if the IO can generate something about this in writing for you.

Edited by TBoneTX

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Finland
Timeline
Posted

I hope that you talked with an actual Immigration Officer than to someone on the Customer Disservice line!

If not, call back (I know -- sigh) and get an IO. If he/she says the same about a computer glitch, get the IO's name and ask him/her to enter the "don't show up - computer glitch" conversation into your permanent record. See if the IO can generate something about this in writing for you.

Thank you for replying! I've now called a couple of more times and got through to supervisors twice. Both of them would not put anything into my records so to speak. First time the person told me that nothing will happen, I just don't go. Second time the person told me that these calls are recorded and that'll be my proof that I have addressed the issue. He insisted that the appointment letter is a mistake. I wrote letters to both the Virginia address in the appointment letter and directly to Baltimore Field Office. Should I still be calling and insisting they do something about it? My biometrics appointment is next week.

So annoying :(

IR1 took 520 days....

 

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
Timeline
Posted (edited)

Have you involved your husband's Congressman? Go to the website and prepare the "release form" in advance, and call to speak with the "immigration liaison."

This gigantic immigration-law firm* has a very reasonably priced telephone or e-mail consultation service:

http://www.fosterquan.com

Click their link for "individuals & families."

*I have no connection with them beyond having been a satisfied customer years ago. Immigration law is Federal, so they need not be in your geographical area.

Edited by TBoneTX

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Finland
Timeline
Posted

Have you involved your husband's Congressman? Go to the website and prepare the "release form" in advance, and call to speak with the "immigration liaison."

This gigantic immigration-law firm* has a very reasonably priced telephone or e-mail consultation service:

http://www.fosterquan.com

Click their link for "individuals & families."

*I have no connection with them beyond having been a satisfied customer years ago. Immigration law is Federal, so they need not be in your geographical area.

Thank you for the info!

I just got a call from USCIS Baltimore and they told me they got my letter and that what USCIS customer service told me is true and that I don't have to attend the appointment.

She said that for some reason the system has been printing duplicates lately, so if someone else got a biometrics appointment letter out of the blue that might be why.

Hoping this settles it, but if not, I'll be sure to contact the congressman. Thanks again for your help and support!

IR1 took 520 days....

 

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
Timeline
Posted

Amazing that 1) they called you and 2) USCIS customer disservice was actually correct about something. This is a great relief for you and great news for us. Happy endings are fun. :thumbs:

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

 
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