USC Bringing Father over, how long?

[clairerubunda 0]

HI

I am posting on my fathers behalf for his father (my Grandfather)

My Father is shortly going to be a US Citizen. He then wants to bring over his father, who is 80. He is very fit and able with no health problems at all. He is fitter than his son!

I have 2 questions....

1; how long does the process take and is it guaranteed (subject to medical)

2; can he adjust staus while here? I know is some cases he can, but i cant find the specifics..... (see the first chapter here undefined )It says in some cases a father can adjust status if he entered the US legally, so would that mean on just a normal visa waiver? Could he do this having sold his house and everything in the UK or would he need to enter, adjust and then go home to finalise his house sale etc?

I hope this makes sence?

(Ignore my time line ect.....I am here on a K1 which is totaly irelevent to this post)

Thanks all!

Claire

[payxibka 10,045]

On what premise will he arrive? What visa type? If you intend to bring him here on a non-immigrant visa (b1/2 or VWP) adjusting of status will not happen.

[Kez/JWolf 6]

Your Grandfather could not just arrive on a VWP after selling up everything in the UK as he would have immigrant intent... your Father would need to file form I-130 for him and then go through the process of getting an immigrant visa through London, once that was approved he could then sell up everything and move to the USA... I thinkl it is a IR5 visa... you are looking at maybe 18 months to get him here..

Kez

[clairerubunda 0]

Your Grandfather could not just arrive on a VWP after selling up everything in the UK as he would have immigrant intent... your Father would need to file form I-130 for him and then go through the process of getting an immigrant visa through London, once that was approved he could then sell up everything and move to the USA... I thinkl it is a IR5 visa... you are looking at maybe 18 months to get him here..

Kez

I see... i thought it may be too good to be true!

18 months isnt too bad though.... I think they thought it would be more like 3 years!

Thanks everyone for your help, I will forward to my Dad so he can be prepared.

Claire

[munchkins 0]

it is classed as an IR 5 and it does in actual fact take less than 18 months. Ours has taken 17 months but only because of Alan's waiver, which has added 3 months onto the process and because in the early days of the process my daughter did not send her birth cert in so that added a further 6 weeks. I know that jenart who immigrated through her daughter was all done and dusted in less than 12 months.

As stated, for someone to go in on the VWP and then try to adjust status having sold all worldly goods so to speak will raise alarm bells as it could be construed as immigrant intent I do know that someone recently posted on here, in reply to another post, that their parents were coming in on the VWP and one of the parents was over 60 and they did not show what was considered enough ties to the Uk and were refused as immigration said they were trying to immigrate the back way. (not in those words but I am sure you know what I mean)

Best to do it the right way, saves a lot of hassle in the long run. Good luck anyway

[Boiler 45,541]

Is your Grandfather very wealthy?

How on earth can a 80 year old even contemplate moving to the US.

Bankrupt in no time.

(My Parents are very near 80 and quite well off, no way could they move to the US)

[Kez/JWolf 6]

Why would her grandfather have to be wealthy????

Kez

[clairerubunda 0]

Is your Grandfather very wealthy?

How on earth can a 80 year old even contemplate moving to the US.

Bankrupt in no time.

(My Parents are very near 80 and quite well off, no way could they move to the US)

No he is not very wealthy.......He wants to move to the US because all his grandchildren and children live here for various reasons. He has no imidiate family left in the UK.

My dad, who is not rich buthas plenty to retire on, would do an Affidavid for him I guess?

Does wealth come into it at all? Also, I know you can move to Australia if you can prove you have no imidiate family left in your own country, does anyone know if that applies for the US?

Edited February 5, 2007 by clairerubunda

[Boiler 45,541]

Is the US Medical System an unknown?.

I can not see us retiring in the US, and an 80 year old with no Medical Insurance....

And no money.

[Kez/JWolf 6]

Nothing to stop him getting medical insurance.... here in MA he could get insurance based on his income so the less he gets in pensions the less he will pay for insurance and if his pensions are below a certain leave his medical insurance will be free...

Kez

[clairerubunda 0]

Is the US Medical System an unknown?.

I can not see us retiring in the US, and an 80 year old with no Medical Insurance....

And no money.

I didnt say he had no money I said he wasnt very wealthy! And I guess wealthy is different to different people..he has a good pention, and a house and car to sell, and savings. He has NO MEDICAL problems at all, and will live with his children, so would have no outgoings except a car.

In fact my dad retired here and has no medical cover. He is flying back to th UK for a free hip replacement for the cost of a $300 flight. He figures thats less than one months insurnce. Am not sure if in an emergeny he would be bancrupt though!

Am not sure I would go that route but its their life!

Nothing to stop him getting medical insurance.... here in MA he could get insurance based on his income so the less he gets in pensions the less he will pay for insurance and if his pensions are below a certain leave his medical insurance will be free...

Kez

Wow, thats interesting! I will bear that in mind.....whon is that insurance with?

[Kez/JWolf 6]

It is a state program and any perminant resident can join as it is based on a sliding scale depending on income...

Do know if your state has a similar program as it dont say in your profile where you are from...

Kez

[munchkins 0]

Does wealth come into it at all? Also, I know you can move to Australia if you can prove you have no imidiate family left in your own country, does anyone know if that applies for the US?

In a nutshell NO.

As to medical insurance, I would think seriously, it is not cheap by any means. We have checked for ourselves (I am 61 and my hubby is 53) I know, I know, he's always been my toy boy but I digress, to have decent medical cover (and the older you get the more expensive it becomes) would cost us in the region $12/15,000 each, that is one reason I will be working and all my medical will be sorted with the company I will be with including my hubby but we will still have to consider what it will cost when we both eventually retire.

It is OK to say one is coming back to the UK for a "free" hip replacement but if your father is a USC I do not see how that will happen. Apart from which I think that there is now a system in place that if you are an expat you no longer qualify for NHS after you have been out of the country for a specific time. maybe someone will correct that if I am wrong

[Boiler 45,541]

Is the US Medical System an unknown?.

I can not see us retiring in the US, and an 80 year old with no Medical Insurance....

And no money.

I didnt say he had no money I said he wasnt very wealthy! And I guess wealthy is different to different people..he has a good pention, and a house and car to sell, and savings. He has NO MEDICAL problems at all, and will live with his children, so would have no outgoings except a car.

In fact my dad retired here and has no medical cover. He is flying back to th UK for a free hip replacement for the cost of a $300 flight. He figures thats less than one months insurnce. Am not sure if in an emergeny he would be bancrupt though!

Am not sure I would go that route but its their life!

Nothing to stop him getting medical insurance.... here in MA he could get insurance based on his income so the less he gets in pensions the less he will pay for insurance and if his pensions are below a certain leave his medical insurance will be free...

Kez

Wow, thats interesting! I will bear that in mind.....whon is that insurance with?

There was talk of CA having some sort of State Health scheme, seems unlikely it could fly but who knows.

I can remember when my Grandmother was her 70's she went to the GP, according to their records her first visit in 30 years.

Of course once you go down hill, then that is when the bills start mounting.

Your father is not entitled to NHS cover of this sort, but may well be able to get away with it, certainly seen cases where people who have retired to Spain have been caught out trying that one. (I would try the same btw)

And of course you have to be medically capable of flying etc etc.

If they are going to do it anyway, check out what arrangements there are for the indiginent, where I am the best you get is a minimal patch up and out the door.

There is a big big difference in the cover available to those who can afford it and those on a freeebie.

[munchkins 0]

You are certainly right about the "once you start to go down hill the bills start mounting"

Once you start to feel the aches and pains, there always seem to be more Immigration is a huge step for anyone but for someone at that age, it is unbelievable.If he makes it and can afford it, good luck to him but please be aware of the NHS rules regarding expats trying to get NHS treatment now.

Edited February 5, 2007 by munchkins