your fiance/husband's first night in america...

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I would suggest that you ask him what he wants to so, even tho I think they all want the same thing. And that has been covered.

Gee! No one objected to any of that! Whatchall got against dildos and vibrators, dayum it!

seems like all the postings are:

1... hubby will be tired so dont plan nothing for him but < fill in the blanks >

2.. hubby will want shower so - join him in the shower for < fill in the blanks >

3. hubby will want to sleep. but, when he wakes up < fill in the blanks >

4.. toss the B-O-B<battery operated boyfriend > in the trash coz, he is not gonna < fill in the blanks NO MORE! >

did I get that right ladies?

Girl, you are too much! Stating the obvious is an art form, and you mastered it. It's clear that no one wants the mechanical subs, and that's why when I mention them, I catch #######.

You got it right, sis!

[doodlebug 3]

You know I was going refrain from posting but I think many people are wondering...

Green-Eyed...based on the advice you gave Rahma the other day on proper adab, do you think you are following the same right now when continuing to discuss your sex toys? I would say that is very high on the list of lack of adab. I realize you have stated earlier that just because you have one doesn't mean you use it, but I would like to remind you that there is only one use for such a thing. There is no alternative use for it, therefore discussing it in a public forum is a lack of adab. If you want to talk about it then please by all means continue, but don't call others out about adab when you can practice what you preach I just want to add I don't really have a problem with anyone here discussing it even though I think its too personal, my problem is with those who discuss such things and then call others out for being disrespectful.

hmmmmmm....I remember saying that earlier!!!

[Bosco 1]

When I call myself a ####### and porport that paper marriages are valid in Islam, then you can call me out.

One more thing. Over the last several months, I've read discussions here about what positions gets you pregnant, Muslimas calling each other fornicators, talking about "living in sin", and more of the same. What is offensive is particularly subjective here, and that can go for me too.

What Muslimas have talked about living in sin?

Who other than you has called another person a fornicator?

Has this stuff really happened?

[jordanianprincess 0]

When I call myself a ####### and porport that paper marriages are valid in Islam, then you can call me out.

One more thing. Over the last several months, I've read discussions here about what positions gets you pregnant, Muslimas calling each other fornicators, talking about "living in sin", and more of the same. What is offensive is particularly subjective here, and that can go for me too.

What Muslimas have talked about living in sin?

Who other than you has called another person a fornicator?

Has this stuff really happened?

[Sofiyya 1,687]

You know I was going refrain from posting but I think many people are wondering...

Green-Eyed...based on the advice you gave Rahma the other day on proper adab, do you think you are following the same right now when continuing to discuss your sex toys? I would say that is very high on the list of lack of adab. I realize you have stated earlier that just because you have one doesn't mean you use it, but I would like to remind you that there is only one use for such a thing. There is no alternative use for it, therefore discussing it in a public forum is a lack of adab. If you want to talk about it then please by all means continue, but don't call others out about adab when you can practice what you preach I just want to add I don't really have a problem with anyone here discussing it even though I think its too personal, my problem is with those who discuss such things and then call others out for being disrespectful.

hmmmmmm....I remember saying that earlier!!!

I know you want to fit in with the cabal, doodle, but you don't have the grounds on which to stand.

Double standards are the norm on this board. Objections are not to what is said, but to whom is saying it. As I said before, people jump on whom they want to. Discussions of sex on this board are common, though veiled. When the "rigt" people are in the nix, nothing is said. When the "wrong" people are in the mix, that's whan it's all wrong.

I'm sorry, but some of the Muslimas here consider Islam a joke until they have someone to pick at to divert from what they thmeselves do and say. Then, they side with the pro-fornicators. They resent me for speaking out against fornication, and will use anything I say to try to deflect from themselves. That is clear to more and more too. You are losing your credibility as critics because of your own hypocrisy and failure to practice what you preach and not apply your finger pointing objectively.

In short:

And, that's what you can do with your finger pointing.

When I call myself a ####### and porport that paper marriages are valid in Islam, then you can call me out.

One more thing. Over the last several months, I've read discussions here about what positions gets you pregnant, Muslimas calling each other fornicators, talking about "living in sin", and more of the same. What is offensive is particularly subjective here, and that can go for me too.

What Muslimas have talked about living in sin?

Who other than you has called another person a fornicator?

Has this stuff really happened?

Yes, it has. That's part of the problem. It's only noticed when done by those who are not among the favored.

Edited February 6, 2007 by Green-eyed girl

[Bosco 1]

What Muslimas have talked about living in sin?

Who other than you has called another person a fornicator?

Has this stuff really happened?

Yes, it has. That's part of the problem. It's only noticed when done by those who are not among the favored.

While I don't read very post, I can only recall you calling people fornicators, and the only people I remember discussing "living in sin" were non-Muslims.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...st&p=703517

And if you say, we're just joking, fine! That's what we're doing here.

Edited February 6, 2007 by Green-eyed girl

[doodlebug 3]

You know I was going refrain from posting but I think many people are wondering...

Green-Eyed...based on the advice you gave Rahma the other day on proper adab, do you think you are following the same right now when continuing to discuss your sex toys? I would say that is very high on the list of lack of adab. I realize you have stated earlier that just because you have one doesn't mean you use it, but I would like to remind you that there is only one use for such a thing. There is no alternative use for it, therefore discussing it in a public forum is a lack of adab. If you want to talk about it then please by all means continue, but don't call others out about adab when you can practice what you preach I just want to add I don't really have a problem with anyone here discussing it even though I think its too personal, my problem is with those who discuss such things and then call others out for being disrespectful.

hmmmmmm....I remember saying that earlier!!!

I know you want to fit in with the cabal, doodle, but you don't have the grounds on which to stand.

Double standards are the norm on this board. Objections are not to what is said, but to whom is saying it. As I said before, people jump on whom they want to. Discussions of sex on this board are common, though veiled. When the "rigt" people are in the nix, nothing is said. When the "wrong" people are in the mix, that's whan it's all wrong.

I'm sorry, but some of the Muslimas here consider Islam a joke until they have someone to pick at to divert from what they thmeselves do and say. Then, they side with the pro-fornicators. They resent me for speaking out against fornication, and will use anything I say to try to deflect from themselves. That is clear to more and more too. You are losing your credibility as critics because of your own hypocrisy and failure to practice what you preach and not apply your finger pointing objectively.

I could give a rat's azz if I fit in or not. I think I've proven that quite a few times. What I do care about though is when someone calls another sister out for committing fornication, when she clearly hasn't. If you were half the person Rahma is, I would actually listen to your arguments but you've proven in this and other threads by waving your vibrator and ####### talk that you are not one to be spouting off any right/wrong speeches. You say that you don't use it for masturbation ..... do you hang it from a mantle then and use it for decoration??????

If you want to be taken seriously when you give out Islamic advice, I think perhaps you might wanna clean up your act.

I agree with JP that I don't mind the talk but when someone is being hypocritical and has hurt a dear friend, then I have to speak out as well. Obviously you've used this thread as you have others recently to try to scratch the surface and cause a fight. Do you think this is beneficial to your cause of peace on these boards? I think not, but then that's just me.

Edited February 6, 2007 by doodlebug

[Sofiyya 1,687]

While I don't read very post, I can only recall you calling people fornicators, and the only people I remember discussing "living in sin" were non-Muslims.

I don't call people fornicators. I speak out against fornication.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I could give a rat's azz if I fit in or not. I think I've proven that quite a few times. What I do care about though is when someone calls another sister out for committing fornication, when she clearly hasn't. If you were half the person Rahma is, I would actually listen to your arguments but you've proven in this and other threads by waving your vibrator and ####### talk that you are not one to be spouting off any right/wrong speeches. You say that you don't use it for masturbation ..... do you hang it from a mantle then and use it for decoration??????

If you want to be taken seriously when you give out Islamic advice, I think perhaps you might wanna clean up your act.

I agree with JP that I don't mind the talk but when someone is being hypocritical and has hurt a dear friend, then I have to speak out as well. Obviously you've used this thread as you have others recently to try to scratch the surface and cause a fight. Do you think this is beneficial to your cause of peace on these boards? I think not, but then that's just me.

I don't give a ratz azz either, and I know I've proven that. I said proper adab is not calling yourself a ####### and your husband a pimp in public. Do you think that's ok? If you do, then can you admit to being a hypocrite when you complain about me?

I'm not starting a fight, but, hey, blame me for you showing up to fight.

I would take any of you more seriously if you did that same to your friends when they got out of line. You don't so, bug off.

[Bosco 1]

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...st&p=703517

And if you say, we're just joking, fine! That's what we're doing here.

Not sure MBP has ever declared herself Muslima on this forum, and clearly that is sarcasm, which is not the case when you call people fornicators.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I don't call people fornicators, but I don't defend them either, like you have.

[Bosco 1]

I don't call people fornicators, but I don't defend them either, like you have.

Where have I defended fornicators?

[Sofiyya 1,687]

You know, Rebecca, I have been holding back on saying this, but I will. You used to want to be friends. You used to be very positve toward me, and I haven't changed, but you did. You know how I found out that you didn't like me anymore? It wasn't the way you prescribe for others, that they discuss their issues in private. No, it was because I saw you making fun of me and mocking my positions with people you know didn't like me.

This thread was the first give away. From there, there were other posts that clearly were aimmed at my views; I don't collect them. I said nothing because popularity here isn't important to me. That's not what I'm here for, and that's why I don't really care who likes me and who doesn't.

You folks dislike my proveniciality, and you dislike my unconventionality. You want to put me in a little box that allows you to do and say as you want, but restricts me to silence and absolute prudeness. But, if some can joke about sex, then I can too. So, get over it, y'all.

BTW, we were having fun here, like many of you do when you're mocking me. We will continue to have fun. Get over that too.

Edited February 6, 2007 by Green-eyed girl

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