Obama’s Class Warfare

[LostInAK 43]

I like how your graph appears to show food stamp use etc, rise in 2008. It's almost as if there was a financial crisis going on? Oh wait, that's right there was.

Fair enough. Here's a graph with a little more recent data. Notice how it keeps going up and up after the financial crisis was over? How do you explain that? I think you know the answer deep down, but can't bring yourself to terms with it. It's ok. Denial can be good thing. Keeps people blissfully happy and unaware at the same time. It's like drugs without the side effects. Hopefully one day you'll be able to face reality without the crutch of liberal propaganda. There's hope for you dude!!!

[Póg mo 1,749]

I never claimed labor was the ONLY cost. That would be silly. However, it has a huge effect.

The example you gave, said that beer prices would rise exactly the same amount. It was a ridiculous argument to make, because anyone capable of thought would say, that brewers don't employ a worker for every bottle of beer that is produced, so it stands to reason that the price of beer would hardly to be expect to increase anywhere near what you suggested. Also, a higher wage would likely translate into less workers leaving employment and thus saving money on training new hires.

[LostInAK 43]

The example you gave, said that beer prices would rise exactly the same amount. It was a ridiculous argument to make, because anyone capable of thought would say, that brewers don't employ a worker for every bottle of beer that is produced, so it stands to reason that the price of beer would hardly to be expect to increase anywhere near what you suggested. Also, a higher wage would likely translate into less workers leaving employment and thus saving money on training new hires.

Yeah training people to work on a line. It's real brain surgery.

[Póg mo 1,749]

Fair enough. Here's a graph with a little more recent data. Notice how it keeps going up and up after the financial crisis was over? How do you explain that? I think you know the answer deep down, but can't bring yourself to terms with it. It's ok. Denial can be good thing. Keeps people blissfully happy and unaware at the same time. It's like drugs without the side effects. Hopefully one day you'll be able to face reality without the crutch of liberal propaganda. There's hope for you dude!!!

Really? Are you purposefully being obtuse or completely oblivious to how an economy works?

[LostInAK 43]

Really? Are you purposefully being obtuse or completely oblivious to how an economy works?

Thanks for your well thought out contribution to the subject. /sarcasm.

I can see that you are either unwilling or unable to have an intelligent debate on this subject. Please educate yourself and come back later. I hope that I've given you a starting point.

[Póg mo 1,749]

Thanks for your well thought out contribution to the subject. /sarcasm.

I can see that you are either unwilling or unable to have an intelligent debate on this subject. Please educate yourself and come back later. I hope that I've given you a starting point.

Well excuse me captain sarcasm for choosing to reply in the same manner you replied to my last post.

[Neonred 3,562]

The example you gave, said that beer prices would rise exactly the same amount. It was a ridiculous argument to make, because anyone capable of thought would say, that brewers don't employ a worker for every bottle of beer that is produced, so it stands to reason that the price of beer would hardly to be expect to increase anywhere near what you suggested. Also, a higher wage would likely translate into less workers leaving employment and thus saving money on training new hires.

The smart play for this brewery to minimize their increased wage and payroll tax costs might be to automate more of those warm body jobs, or move their facility to a location with lower labor costs. Perhaps south of the boarder?

That would never happen in the good old US of A.

[LostInAK 43]

The smart play for this brewery to minimize their increased wage and payroll tax costs might be to automate more of those warm body jobs, or move their facility to a location with lower labor costs. Perhaps south of the boarder?

That would never happen in the good old US of A.

Maybe move their entire company south of the border? The U.S. has the highest corporate tax rate in the developed world. Who could blame them for moving when the current administration has made it a priority to demonize the job creators in this country?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I just want everyone else to pay the same percentage as me. Isn't that what we all want?

Me too. It's absurd that I see people pay in almost nothing and get back 6 and 7 grand every year. The EIC tax credit needs to go.

We all need to pay the same rate/ Let's get the flat tax done. One rate for all . Oddly the Dems seem to hate that proposal .

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Fair enough. Here's a graph with a little more recent data. Notice how it keeps going up and up after the financial crisis was over? How do you explain that? I think you know the answer deep down, but can't bring yourself to terms with it. It's ok. Denial can be good thing. Keeps people blissfully happy and unaware at the same time. It's like drugs without the side effects. Hopefully one day you'll be able to face reality without the crutch of liberal propaganda. There's hope for you dude!!!

It's not hard to understand the dynamic. If one is actually interested to understand it.

What your graph doesn't show is that food stamp use has actually started to decline.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-01/decline-in-food-stamps-shows-low-income-relief-ecopulse.html

http://www.wsj.com/articles/food-stamps-starting-to-fall-1409606700

[LostInAK 43]

It's not hard to understand the dynamic. If one is actually interested to understand it.

What your graph doesn't show is that food stamp use has actually started to decline.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-01/decline-in-food-stamps-shows-low-income-relief-ecopulse.html

http://www.wsj.com/articles/food-stamps-starting-to-fall-1409606700

The first link shows the total number of people receiving food stamps at 46 million. 3 million higher than what I posted in that graph. Thank you for your assistance in making my point!!

[GandD 5,966]

Me too. It's absurd that I see people pay in almost nothing and get back 6 and 7 grand every year. The EIC tax credit needs to go.

We all need to pay the same rate/ Let's get the flat tax done. One rate for all . Oddly the Dems seem to hate that proposal .

Republicans have the majority now. I'm sure they'll push a bill through now right? (Not holding my breath). People living off capital gains will always pay less (percentage) in taxes than you and I. That's fair.

[LostInAK 43]

Republicans have the majority now. I'm sure they'll push a bill through now right? (Not holding my breath). People living off capital gains will always pay less (percentage) in taxes than you and I. That's fair.

Apparently you've never heard of vetos. Pay real close attention to what happens at the 2:30 mark of the video below:

[LibCampFireClub 635]

E. The President

- the bill is sent to the President for review.

A bill becomes law if signed by the President or if not signed within 10 days and Congress is in session.

If Congress adjourns before the 10 days and the President has not signed the bill then it does not become law ("Pocket Veto.")

If the President vetoes the bill it is sent back to Congress with a note listing his/her reasons. The chamber that originated the legislation can attempt to override the veto by a vote of two-thirds of those present. If the veto of the bill is overridden in both chambers then it becomes law.

F. The Bill Becomes A Law

- once a bill is signed by the President or his veto is overridden by both houses it becomes a law and is assigned an official number.

[LostInAK 43]

Thinking about it more, this president has decided he does not need congressional approval to institute policy. See his new amnesty "law."