Would NEVER go K1 route again

[san diego 407]

Each person makes their own decision. We could have lied and save a lot of time, money and frustration. The rule followers always have it tougher than the rule breakers.

It is NOT even about lie. If she answers "Just to travel" than this opens huge can of worms. During adjustment of status they will ask how you met, and trust me, they may grill you on many details. They will even ask where you lived during AOS interview. How come that she did not live in the hotel? If with you, how come she did not disclose it at the interview? Is this worth it to risk?

Finally, single young woman without kids has about 0% chance of getting visa from Russia. So, it would never happen, anyway. So, you did not miss anything and this thread is absolutely hypothetical.

[whysodifficult? 31]

Finally, single young woman without kids has about 0% chance of getting visa from Russia. So, it would never happen, anyway. So, you did not miss anything and this thread is absolutely hypothetical.

Except that both she and her daughter already have multi-year multi-entry tourist visas. Sorry to mess up your statement of fact theory.

[Dave&Roza 748]

You were required to attend interview and medical?

His fiancee had to and from that statement I am betting she had to endue a long train ride from her hometown to Moscow. This is not a fun experence nor is it cheap. Add to that the cost of a hotel in Moscow, I am betting this was a bit expenseive for him.

OP: Unless you are from a first world country and can use the VWP or can get a tourist visa readily, then your only choice is to apply for a K-1 or CR-1 visa as the foreign beneficiary will never be allowed into the US. IF you can get a tourist visa than getting married and adjusting status is a possibility with the current laws in place.

Dave

[whysodifficult? 31]

It is NOT even about lie. If she answers "Just to travel" than this opens huge can of worms. During adjustment of status they will ask how you met, and trust me, they may grill you on many details. They will even ask where you lived during AOS interview. How come that she did not live in the hotel? If with you, how come she did not disclose it at the interview? Is this worth it to risk?

It has already been established by the courts that this is not relevant. AOS is not about how, you met, how you entered the country or even what you did until you were married. AOS is about determining whether your marriage in bona fide. Another theory down the drain.

[aaron2020 11,651]

Except that both she and her daughter already have multi-year multi-entry tourist visas. Sorry to mess up your statement of fact theory.

After thinking it over, you are right. (That is what you wanted to hear, right?)

Screw the K-1. Everyone should use a visitor visa to come to the U.S., marry, and adjust.

Stupid laws. Stupid people who follow them. You are much brighter and absolutely right.

[j&ana 379]

Except that both she and her daughter already have multi-year multi-entry tourist visas. Sorry to mess up your statement of fact theory.

If that is the case and she has or had tourist visa to visit USA. then you definitely should of done the CR-1 visa as she could of visit you, or you could of visit her. While waiting for the visa to be approve. Then there will be no reason for complaining about the costs and frustrations of the K-1 visa

Edited January 19, 2015 by j&ana

[AmAjjD 33]

Technically not fraud as long as the intention at customs is not there. Fraud if intentions upon arriving at the gate are to stay and adjust. Fair? No. Reality? Yes. If you have previously entered the US, then customs has access to your file, and will know about your past travels and intentions, as well as lengths of stay and addresses of visit. So they can grill you about your fiance/reasons for entering the US, and ask further questions, such as if you own property in your country, currently have a job, or other ties to make sure you go back. If you don't have any ties, likely they will deny you under suspicions for immigration. So, you don't even need to lie at this point, they can more than likely figure out your intentions. Also, if you do lie, as in don't tell them you plan on getting married and staying, that opens up an entirely new can of worms if caught.

[N-o-l-a 7,168]

It has already been established by the courts that this is not relevant. AOS is not about how, you met, how you entered the country or even what you did until you were married. AOS is about determining whether your marriage in bona fide. Another theory down the drain.

Well, ok, sure, but the process of visa fraud is about chance. What is the chance they'll look in your bags and see that your brought more than a bathing suit and a few nice outfits for a vacation? What about when they look in your computer and see that you've written things about intent to immigrate or that you have no ties to your home country? I don't know about you, but when I moved countries twice, our suitcases and carry ons screamed intent to immigrate.

What then when you get turned around at the border? Where are you going to go home to if you just packed up all of your stuff? How are you going to afford to live after quitting your job?

Just doesn't seem very prudent.

[whysodifficult? 31]

System is broken in that it makes it very difficult and costly to follow the rules. Bottom line is that I did follow the rules but I would have to think twice if I had the chance to do it over.

[Ontarkie 14,506]

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