Are point of Entry work permits history?

[collegeboard 0]

Look at this link:

www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-9.pdf

Look at page three.

Look at List A.

Look at #4.

An passport with attached !-94 establishes both identity and employment eligibility -- until the I-94 expires.

[kitkat1 5]

Look at this link:

www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-9.pdf

Look at page three.

Look at List A.

Look at #4.

An passport with attached !-94 establishes both identity and employment eligibility -- until the I-94 expires.

#4

Unexpired foreign passport,with I-551 stamp or attached Form I-94 indicating unexpired employment authorization

A fiance who enters the US on a K1 who does NOT receive a temporary EAD does NOT have an"UNEXPIRED EMPLOYMENT AUTHORIZATION" therefore they cannot work.

[vernouil 0]

Look at this link:

www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-9.pdf

Look at page three.

Look at List A.

Look at #4.

An passport with attached !-94 establishes both identity and employment eligibility -- until the I-94 expires.

don't worry man

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http://www.skyweb.net/~rlls/ssn/em00154.pdf

just for the one who can read

[collegeboard 0]

Look at this link:

www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-9.pdf

Look at page three.

Look at List A.

Look at #4.

An passport with attached !-94 establishes both identity and employment eligibility -- until the I-94 expires.

#4

Unexpired foreign passport,with I-551 stamp or attached Form I-94 indicating unexpired employment authorization

A fiance who enters the US on a K1 who does NOT receive a temporary EAD does NOT have an"UNEXPIRED EMPLOYMENT AUTHORIZATION" therefore they cannot work.

Right! I see that now. Wow! I finally read all the posts. This is amazing! We all WANT to have this be simple and clear: K-1 authorized to work so employer can hire, right? But a STAMP is needed and it may or may not be given at JFK and only at JFK. Holy #######! This is truly bizarre.

Thanks to you KitKat1 for trying to clarify, but it is hopeless. One can find anything they want with this to work with.

I love that everything depends on the gerund phrase following the hope inspiring information! Beautiful! Only the government could manage this level of craziness.

Lawyers must LOVE this stuff!!

I suggest we all just chill out, try to get jobs anyway, and let the employers be damned if they are willing to hire.

Thanks to all those who tried so hard to make the impossible clear -- actually many of you make it all clear, but no one can make it REASONABLE!!!

I love this forum!

[kitkat1 5]

I think it was made clear earlier in the thread but the concept is a strange and confusing one.

Think of it this way

A person on a K1 has the right to work unlike a person on a tourist visa, for example. People on a tourist visa do not have the right to work.

But in order for an employer to hire a person who came on a K1, they need to show a separate work authorization document. Their visa, or their I-94 alone are not enough. Some people get temporary work authorization docs from the point of entry - usually JFK.

Those who don't have to wait until they apply and receive their work authorization card. So even though they have the right to work, an employer cannot legally hire then without seeing this document. Since some employers don't seem to care, some people do end up being able to work.

[collegeboard 0]

I think it was made clear earlier in the thread but the concept is a strange and confusing one.

Think of it this way

A person on a K1 has the right to work unlike a person on a tourist visa, for example. People on a tourist visa do not have the right to work.

But in order for an employer to hire a person who came on a K1, they need to show a separate work authorization document. Their visa, or their I-94 alone are not enough. Some people get temporary work authorization docs from the point of entry - usually JFK.

Those who don't have to wait until they apply and receive their work authorization card. So even though they have the right to work, an employer cannot legally hire then without seeing this document. Since some employers don't seem to care, some people do end up being able to work.

No, I think I understand it ok. I just can't see why the stamp is only given at JFK (there was some disagreement as to that actually happening even there) and not routinely at all POE's. I mean, really, why make it difficult for people when a simple stamp would eliminate all the anxiety and confusion. A quick marriage, a quick filing for AOS and employment documentation, and one could work from entry on. I mean, K-1's are permitted to work, everyone seems to agree. It is just the ridiculous stamp that is randomly given that is causing all the stress.

Didn't Americans get upset about a Stamp Act years ago and do something in Boston Harbor? I think my US History lesson is beginning to make sense now!

Well, I will try to ask at Chicago POE and let you know if anything happens. Enough for now that my fiance will be here in a week!

Oh, and by the way, can we have a bit of civility out there? I mean, just because there is disagreement in interpreting the laws, no need for rudeness. There really IS a difference between social security administration instructions and immigration law, by the way.

[kitkat1 5]

Well, I will try to ask at Chicago POE and let you know if anything happens.

Chicago doesn't give the stamp

[meauxna 15]

No, I think I understand it ok. I just can't see why the stamp is only given at JFK (there was some disagreement as to that actually happening even there) and not routinely at all POE's. I mean, really, why make it difficult for people when a simple stamp would eliminate all the anxiety and confusion. A quick marriage, a quick filing for AOS and employment documentation, and one could work from entry on. I mean, K-1's are permitted to work, everyone seems to agree. It is just the ridiculous stamp that is randomly given that is causing all the stress.

Didn't Americans get upset about a Stamp Act years ago and do something in Boston Harbor? I think my US History lesson is beginning to make sense now!

Well, I will try to ask at Chicago POE and let you know if anything happens. Enough for now that my fiance will be here in a week!

Oh, and by the way, can we have a bit of civility out there? I mean, just because there is disagreement in interpreting the laws, no need for rudeness. There really IS a difference between social security administration instructions and immigration law, by the way.

#1: The EA stamp is not given only at JFK. JFK is the only POE that *regularly* gives it out (people have a funny way of reading what they want, see above). You can scan posts here, or look for the rolling POE list to see other POEs where people have recieved the EA stamp (it's usually land borders).

#2: The reason for #1's locations could be because the stamp is not a very secure device (most peple are unaware that the smudgy thing is their EAD), but is more likely due to the fact that CIS is starting to disagree about the 'incident to status' argument and is looking to completely eliminate the EA portion of the K-1 status. There is a lengthy thread here on that topic.

#3: What stresses me out is people who argue badly and make me want to call them fukctards.

#4: I think you are confused about the word 'stamp' having anything to do with the other here. A non-immigrant is entitled to exactly zero. Sorry if that does not sound nice, but the plight of a few weeks without work is not high on the priority list for 99.9999% of the population.

I have not seen reports from Chicago of EAD success, but by all means, ask for it. Explain that K-1s are work authorized 'incident to status' but need the evidence. See what can be learned at the POE, and share it back with VJ.

Best of all, enjoy your reunion!