Colorado church refuses to hold funeral for lesbian woman after dispute over ‘affectionate’ photos

[LibCampFireClub 635]

...and the word became flesh and added even more options for god choices. This weekend there will be even more options to choose. Don't get hung up on one god, upgrade to a newer and better god today!

[Jon and Krissy 452]

Your debating God's word with some tacky meme jacked from the net? The Holy Bible is the one and only official rule book for Christians. Some people try to rewrite the Holy Bible to suit their sick and perverted needs but it doesn't work that way. A person cannot be a homosexual and be a Christian at the same time as in homosexuals cannot have their cake and eat it too.

Yes, like the sick perversion of women who don't cover their heads in church:

"But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head..." 1 Corinthians 11:5

And don't forget, if you ever disobey god, you must eat your children:

"If in spite of this you still do not listen to me but continue to be hostile toward me, 28 then in my anger I will be hostile toward you, and I myself will punish you for your sins seven times over. 29 You will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters."(Leviticus 26:27-30)

Also, remember that if your brother dies, the Bible commands that you have sex with his widow:

"Master, Moses wrote unto us, If a man's brother die, and leave his wife behind him, and leave no children, that his brother should take his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother." (Mark 12:19)

And don't forget, non-virgins are to be stoned to death:

"But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the ####### in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you." (Deuteronomy 22: 20-21)

And swearing at your parents is punishable by death:

"For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him." (Leviticus 20:9)

Yep, better follow that Bible to the letter.

[JohnR! 5,495]

Don't underestimate the power of superstition and the blissful feeling it gives its converts.

'You shall not take advice on how to live your life and view the world based on the rantings of primitives from thousands of years ago.'

--Anyone with a functioning intellect--

[Sousuke 1,214]

IMO, as a Christian, you can not take things literally. Its clear that many passages were written for family security of the times and also the promotion of population growth.

I suspect that homosexuality was stigmatized for those two reasons. Clearly we no longer need population growth and with equal rights among women and men its a non issue today.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

'You shall not take advice on how to live your life and view the world based on the rantings of primitives from thousands of years ago.'

--Anyone with a functioning intellect--

[Janelle2002 3,865]

That's a very interesting question; one many have asked throughout the ages, and one at the center of the credibility of Christianity: Where's the book of Jesus, the only book that would really matter and that would replace all other books.

All we have is hearsay, 'written' by illiterate men, at the end of their lives, decades after their alleged experience with JC.

You do the math.

A bunch of hearsay about a man that actually existed. Awesome.

And what do you believe in......??

you realize you're debating the bible with people that believe they're a morphed bacteria. don't you?

I know. And don't forget the monkey or gorilla theory that some are still trying to argue.

At the church this weekend, talking with the Church Secretary, who told me, "You know, our church is full of sinners - it's a big prerequisite" ..

I gotta tell ya - that one phrase from her widened my horizons...

It should be a prerequisite. No one is without sin walking this earth. Period.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

'You shall not take advice on how to live your life and view the world based on the rantings of primitives from thousands of years ago.'

--Anyone with a functioning intellect--

In that case who do you think made primitive things like,

Don't murder

Don't steal

Don't sleep with your neighbor's wife

Help your neighbor (you might need their help one day)

Discipline your kids (so they can grow up and respect society and rules)

Don't get drunk (alcohol affects your judgment, makes you do stupid things like beat your kids or wife or run someone over)

Aren't these all "primitive" ideas that still exist today? and for a good reason might I add?

Edited January 14, 2015 by Janelle2002

[LibCampFireClub 635]

It should be a prerequisite. No one is without sin walking this earth. Period.

Sin is a religious concept. You know, the Adam and Eve deal where they were all about having fun and enjoying life and then that woman. What was her name? Oh yeah: EVE. That chick listened to the snake, also called serpent, who suggested that god told them to enjoy life and do anything they wanted except eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. But, what did she do? She listened to that voice, pre-snake, as it wasn't a snake until after the fact and not only did she eat it, but she took it to the only other person on earth and talked him into eating it too. And, he did. He ate the damned thing and that is where the word "damn" originated, and so did the theological concept of sin. Those ten commandments didn't come until Moses, and all those other guys who appeared to have live for hundreds of years and then the "FALL" happened and all hell, as it were broke loose.

Evil? Sin? Bad? Good? Such a concept. Everyone, excluding sociopaths seem to have it written on their hearts, and those who kill in the name of the god of the week, month, year, or millennium.

Edited January 14, 2015 by ExExpat

[Not a Tailor 1,370]

Fun facts about the case in the OP

1) The church had the video for days and did not object.

2) The church stopped the service 15 minutes in and announced that either they could not play the video or they had to leave

3) the church is now refusing to refund the money.

It should be noted that the common custom with slide shows and videos for funerals is to show them with their friends and loved ones, looking happy and affectionate.

[LibCampFireClub 635]

Anyone having a creative rainbow bug should consider innovating a colorful flag making sure to trademark and copyright it. It's gonna be a big deal if you can originate a new idea. Perhaps call it the knowledge of good and evil, or Eve's Tree, or better yet, Eve's bush!

[Janelle2002 3,865]

Sin is a religious concept. You know, the Adam and Eve deal where they were all about having fun and enjoying life and then that woman. What was her name? Oh yeah: EVE. That chick listened to the snake, also called serpent, who suggested that god told them to enjoy life and do anything they wanted except eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. But, what did she do? She listened to that voice, pre-snake, as it wasn't a snake until after the fact and not only did she eat it, but she took it to the only other person on earth and talked him into eating it too. And, he did. He ate the damned thing and that is where the word "damn" originated, and so did the theological concept of sin. Those ten commandments didn't come until Moses, and all those other guys who appeared to have live for hundreds of years and then the "FALL" happened and all hell, as it were broke loose.

Evil? Sin? Bad? Good? Such a concept. Everyone, excluding sociopaths seem to have it written on their hearts, and those who kill in the name of the god of the week, month, year, or millennium.

Soooo out side of religious context, you believe the below rules have no place in our society?

Don't murder

Don't steal

Don't sleep with your neighbor's wife

Help your neighbor (you might need their help one day)

Discipline your kids (so they can grow up and respect society and rules)

Don't get drunk (alcohol affects your judgment, makes you do stupid things like beat your kids or wife or run someone over)

Fun facts about the case in the OP

1) The church had the video for days and did not object.

2) The church stopped the service 15 minutes in and announced that either they could not play the video or they had to leave

3) the church is now refusing to refund the money.

It should be noted that the common custom with slide shows and videos for funerals is to show them with their friends and loved ones, looking happy and affectionate.

If these are the facts of the case, the church was wrong.

[LibCampFireClub 635]

Soooo out side of religious context, you believe the below rules have no place in our society?

Don't murder

Don't steal

Don't sleep with your neighbor's wife

Help your neighbor (you might need their help one day)

Discipline your kids (so they can grow up and respect society and rules)

Don't get drunk (alcohol affects your judgment, makes you do stupid things like beat your kids or wife or run someone over)

I'm a theologian. So, I don't accept dogshit as being valid without evidence. Especially since I'm a fully recovered christian from seminary. You cannot establish first base without suggesting that others play a guessing game with you.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

I'm a theologian. So, I don't accept dogshit as being valid without evidence. Especially since I'm a fully recovered christian from seminary. You cannot establish first base without suggesting that others play a guessing game with you.

Okay. So you agree that some of these primitive rules can be applied biblically and non-biblically?

[LibCampFireClub 635]

Okay. So you agree that some of these primitive rules can be applied biblically and non-biblically?

NO. Of course not. There is no evidence of any of it

[Not a Tailor 1,370]

If these are the facts of the case, the church was wrong.

An hour-long viewing of Collier's body had just finished and the memorial service was 15 minutes underway when Chavez stopped it, those in attendance said.

Friends say they gave the church a remembrance video of Collier a week before that contained images of her kissing and embracing her wife. The pastor had every chance to stop the funeral long before it began, they said.

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