status information letter selective service

[minions2 24]

My brother failed to register to selective service and we requested for status information letter... how long do we have to wait for the reply?

[Diazy 10]

It took less than a month for us.

[bigr 0]

u can print it on line .... u don't have to Waite

[minions2 24]

Yes we printed it online and sent it to IL... what would be the response on that letter? Denial?

[bigr 0]

is he under the required age if yes he only need to register on line their is no denial it take less than 5 mints

[ExPatty 502]

If he isn't yet 26 he can still register. If he is over 26 it's impossible to register and he may be denied, but he may not be if he can successfully convince USCIS that there was a good reason for it. If he is now over 31 it's even less of an issue and is water under the bridge, from what I understand.

You haven't said his age, though. Also, what was his status when he was under 26?

[minions2 24]

His 27 now.. he came here when he was 20 with green card through parent

[Mahrukh 2]

It took less than a month for us.

Hi,

My husband is going to apply for his naturalization process. He just found out about the Request for Status letter requirement as he failed to register and he came to US when he was 23 years old and now he is 28 years old. So he can not register for that.

We printed the Request for Status letter online and filled the form and sent it to Selective Service Registration System in IL with supporting documents. I wonder how much time would it take its been 2-3 weeks already. Is there a way to track that?

Thanks,

[ExPatty 502]

Hi,

My husband is going to apply for his naturalization process. He just found out about the Request for Status letter requirement as he failed to register and he came to US when he was 23 years old and now he is 28 years old. So he can not register for that.

We printed the Request for Status letter online and filled the form and sent it to Selective Service Registration System in IL with supporting documents. I wonder how much time would it take its been 2-3 weeks already. Is there a way to track that?

Thanks,

When was he granted an actual green card? There was some debate in a thread a few weeks ago about whether a person had to register before they even had a green card (I realize many have, of course).

As far as minion's husband, I presume you have gone to the social security website to check registration? Many don't recall registering, but were registered as part of the green card process and have been pleasantly surprised to see their number pop up.

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If you are between the age of 26 and 31 and did not register prior to turning 26 there is a very good chance naturalization will be denied. You'll probably need to make a convincing case as to why you didn't register and another thread I read recently a guy was about to get approved, but was denied for SS, and finally appealed and was approved after having many letters from people he knew endorsing him as being of good moral character. If you are denied, you can try again (probably a waste of time), or wait until you're 31.

[Mahrukh 2]

When was he granted an actual green card? There was some debate in a thread a few weeks ago about whether a person had to register before they even had a green card (I realize many have, of course).

As far as minion's husband, I presume you have gone to the social security website to check registration? Many don't recall registering, but were registered as part of the green card process and have been pleasantly surprised to see their number pop up.

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If you are between the age of 26 and 31 and did not register prior to turning 26 there is a very good chance naturalization will be denied. You'll probably need to make a convincing case as to why you didn't register and another thread I read recently a guy was about to get approved, but was denied for SS, and finally appealed and was approved after having many letters from people he knew endorsing him as being of good moral character. If you are denied, you can try again (probably a waste of time), or wait until you're 31.

He was granted green card in 2003. He never registered. He already checked that to confirm from SSS website.

The N400 says you need to request for status if you have not filed before 26; I think if the status letter turns out to be good status then there is no harm in applying before 31?

The only issue right now is that we are waiting for that and it has not arrived yet and we do not know how to track that.

Thanks for your reply ExPatty!

[JimmyHou 613]

He was granted green card in 2003. He never registered. He already checked that to confirm from SSS website.

The N400 says you need to request for status if you have not filed before 26; I think if the status letter turns out to be good status then there is no harm in applying before 31?

The only issue right now is that we are waiting for that and it has not arrived yet and we do not know how to track that.

Thanks for your reply ExPatty!

It's good that you're double-checking on his status; sometimes the website is wrong.

If you confirm that he did not register, then technically, he cannot be approved for naturalization until he is 31 (or 29 if applying based on marriage to a US citizen).

However, the basis for denial is that he would have knowingly failed to register. If he can demonstrate that he didn't know he had to register, then he could still be approved. I don't know how this is possible, since both his green card application, which he signed, and the welcome packet he got with the green card both say that he has to register, but there are a couple of cases where applicants got lenient interviewers who agreed that their explanation was sufficient.

It is quite likely, however, that you will receive a letter saying that he was in fact automatically registered when he became a PR. I hope this is the case.

[ExPatty 502]

Here is the thread I alluded to earlier:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/495417-application-denied-a-day-before-oath-ceremony-no-notices-received/

So it's a recent example that you can indeed be denied for failing to register for SS.

I have sympathy for it, as I really don't particularly recall registering myself or getting told to do so--but I did, I assume as part of the green card process, or maybe my attorney reminded me. But USCIS does take it seriously.

Also more reading in this thread: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/507854-stuck-with-selective-service-question/and JimmyHou in post #6 references this thread:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/505986-selective-service-issue/

Unless you have some particularly pressing need to be a citizen, if you've genuinely skipped over this important step it appears to me it's worth waiting until you're 31.

I have no idea if taking your chances now, and fancying yourself a convincing letter writer but still being denied, has any impact on a subsequent application; i.e. will it receive additional scrutiny if you had been denied a few years earlier?

[Faye10 1]

For other people that have the same issue, here's another story.

 

My husband's application is now pending due to missing status information letter. he is 31, from what the selective service says, if you are 31 or orlder you are not required to provide a letter.  Before his interview he called Selective Service to make sure and and was told he did NOT need it as he was already 31.

 

He had his interview on March 14th, but the officer asked him if he had a SIL,  said no and showed him a letter from selective service (that the guy on the phone from SS told us to print and take with him). 

Also on their website it says this : 

 

"Immigrant men who are 31 or older who are seeking naturalization and who did not register are no longer required to provide a “status information letter” or documentation of their status from Selective Service. If asked for a status information letter, you may print a form letter concerning their request for a letter for use with USCIS." 

 

Now his application is pending, he needs to provide a stupid letter EVEN IF HE IS ALREADY 31. We requested it and hope it will get here before the due date (cause of course they give you a time limit).

 

So I recommend to anyone who is not 32 yet and was not registered, JUST WAIT.    IT WILL BE MORE EASY AND CHEAPER since we're probably have to restart the whole process. 

 

Will update!

[Laniakean 13]

On 3/22/2022 at 3:51 PM, Faye10 said:

For other people that have the same issue, here's another story.

 

My husband's application is now pending due to missing status information letter. he is 31, from what the selective service says, if you are 31 or orlder you are not required to provide a letter.  Before his interview he called Selective Service to make sure and and was told he did NOT need it as he was already 31.

 

He had his interview on March 14th, but the officer asked him if he had a SIL,  said no and showed him a letter from selective service (that the guy on the phone from SS told us to print and take with him). 

Also on their website it says this : 

 

"Immigrant men who are 31 or older who are seeking naturalization and who did not register are no longer required to provide a “status information letter” or documentation of their status from Selective Service. If asked for a status information letter, you may print a form letter concerning their request for a letter for use with USCIS." 

 

Now his application is pending, he needs to provide a stupid letter EVEN IF HE IS ALREADY 31. We requested it and hope it will get here before the due date (cause of course they give you a time limit).

 

So I recommend to anyone who is not 32 yet and was not registered, JUST WAIT.    IT WILL BE MORE EASY AND CHEAPER since we're probably have to restart the whole process. 

 

Will update!

Not only 32. To anyone bumping into this topic, I had my interview at 42, never set foot in the US before I was 30 and I was still asked for it. Luckily my paranoia led me to request the letter before the interview and I was able to produce it when asked. If you are a male, save yourself some trouble and get it. It takes just a few minutes to request it, it is free and it might just make your journey just a bit smoother with interviewers and supervisors not up to date with regulation changes.

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