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okay, this brings up a good question in my mind............... If it takes so long (up to a year) to get the first AOS 2 yr green card, then why not wait until

you've been married for 2 years and apply and get the 10 yr? Saving all that grief and money!! Does anyone have a good explanation why we shouldn't wait?

I'm sure there may be a good reason to apply immediately, but I'm not aware of it If so, please enlighten me.

Well you'd be out of status with no ability to work or travel, and at risk of deportation. Sounds like way more grief to me!

2013 7/15 I-129F sent, 7/18 received Dallas lockbox, 7/22 NOA1, 10/22 NOA2, 11/15 NVC Case Created, 11/20 NVC Shipped, 11/25 Consulate received, 11/28 Packet 3 received/returned, 11/29 Medical, 12/9 Packet 4 received

2014 1/9 Interview - Approved, 1/15 CEAC - Issued, 1/17 Visa in hand, 2/5 POE: LAX, 4/4 Married!, 4/8 AOS/EAD/AP filed, 4/14 NOA1, 5/7 Walk-in biometrics, 5/19 EAD/AP approved (expedited), 5/22 EAD/AP mailed, 5/23 EAD/AP received, 7/29 Interview waiver letter

2015 4/13 AOS approved (no interview), 4/22 Green card received

2017 1/17 I-751 ROC filed (VSC), 1/23 NOA, 2/28 Biometrics

2018 1/31 ROC approved

2020 1/14 N400 filed

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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Posted

okay, that makes sense. Hadn't really thought of that "black hole" in the middle. Just a shame that you have to go through it all over again...possibly only weeks after you finally get your first AOS done and spend more money. BUT, that's government for ya.

I (Todd) am the petitioner from the U.S. / Beth is in/from Philippines :thumbs:

---------------VISA JOURNEY---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

6-30-2014: Mailed I129F Packet to Dallas Lockbox......... H e e e r e WE g o o o o o!! (L):wub::dance:

7-08-2014: Received email confirmation & text of application packet receipt and case #. Texas Service Center.

7-11-2014: Received actual letter confirmation of receipt and case #.

7-11-2014: Received email notification of Alien registration # being changed.

7-31-2014: Received text/email of I129F approval (Post Decision Activity) yes, we were processed at TSC!

8-04-2014: Received hard copy NOA2 in mail confirming approved and sent to NVC.

8-05-2014: Received text/email and USCIS status update. 2nd half of Post Decision Activity - Sent to DOS for processing.

8-13-2014: NVC assigned case/MNL# !!!

8-15 -2014: Interview scheduled.....August 28!

8-15 -2014: CEAC status: IN TRANSIT to Consular Section.

8-18-2014: CEAC status changed to "READY"

8-18-2014: Shots completed 2nd day. Medical complete. received a CD, papers, and passport

8-19-2014: Completed CFO seminar (Will return to CFO office to get sticker after Visa is in hand)

8-25-2014: Received hard copy of NVC case # assignment and fwd to consulate letter in mail.

8-28-2014: 1:00 am my time...........Interview done.........APPROVED !!! :dancing:(L):wow::wub::thumbs:

9-02-2014: Administrative Processing

9-04-2014: Issued

9-07-2014: Text msg from 2GO, Visa ready for pickup

9-08-2014: Visa in hand, CFO sticker obtained

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12-05-2014: AOS Package at Chicago Lockbox received per U.S. mail tracking

12-19-2014: Received texts/emails that file has been accepted and routed. (All three...485, 131,765)

12-26-2014: Received Biometrics appointment notice. Scheduled 1-7-2015.

12-27-2014: Received NOA1 / I-797C in mail for all three applications.

01-07-2014: Biometrics completed in Fort Smith, AR. .. went in early, they took us no problem. Took maybe 10 minutes.

02-10-2015: Received text and emails notification of approved EAD and AP. Status changed to reflect approval.

02-17-2-15: Received NOA I-797 letter only.....for Advanced Parole in mail.

02-21-2015: Received EAD/AP combo card in mail today.

03-19-2015: Received the "Notice of Potential Interview Case" letter in mail today.

06-03-2015: Requested to expedite due to potential loss of funds if vacation had to be cancelled due to non acceptable travel docs to Mexico.

06-05-205: Response denying expedite. Stated while sounded important, only cases strictly adhering to the "qualification" to expedite are granted such process.

08-11-2015: Sent "out of processing time" inquiry

08-12-2015: Received generic response stating that due to workload factors USCIS anticipates a delay in completing your case."

08-15-2015: (Saturday@8am) received email stating a recent processing action has taken place on our case. Status:Card/Document Production

"We ordered your new card for MSCxxxxxxxx, and will mail it. You can expect your card within 30 days of approval of your application.

8-12-2015: Online status changed to "NEW CARD IS BEING PRODUCED" . Couple days later, received hard copy of notice.

8-31-2015: Received text notifying that "We mailed your new card"

9-01-2015: Received GREEN CARD!! 275 days from date of mailing/filing AOS.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Mexico
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Posted

okay, that makes sense. Hadn't really thought of that "black hole" in the middle. Just a shame that you have to go through it all over again...possibly only weeks after you finally get your first AOS done and spend more money. BUT, that's government for ya.

Are you talking about going through ROC when you have a conditional card? It would not be weeks after AOS. Your green card will be valid for 2 years from the date you are approved. You would file for ROC within 90 days before the card expires, so it will be almost 2 years before you apply for ROC, no matter how long your AOS takes to be approved.

Link to K-1 instructions for Ciudad Juarez, Mexico > https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/K1/CDJ_Ciudad-Juarez-2-22-2021.pdf

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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Posted

Yeah, I guess I'm a little confused after reading several posts on here. Someone said if you have been married for 2 years they would

go ahead and give you the 10 yr green card. (if so, is this still a conditional card?)

I was thinking if the conditional green card takes over a year to get, why not just wait and do it all just once and get the 10 yr. card. But I realize she would be "expired" and somewhat illegally here without actually filing something to take the place of the expired I-94.

I (Todd) am the petitioner from the U.S. / Beth is in/from Philippines :thumbs:

---------------VISA JOURNEY---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

6-30-2014: Mailed I129F Packet to Dallas Lockbox......... H e e e r e WE g o o o o o!! (L):wub::dance:

7-08-2014: Received email confirmation & text of application packet receipt and case #. Texas Service Center.

7-11-2014: Received actual letter confirmation of receipt and case #.

7-11-2014: Received email notification of Alien registration # being changed.

7-31-2014: Received text/email of I129F approval (Post Decision Activity) yes, we were processed at TSC!

8-04-2014: Received hard copy NOA2 in mail confirming approved and sent to NVC.

8-05-2014: Received text/email and USCIS status update. 2nd half of Post Decision Activity - Sent to DOS for processing.

8-13-2014: NVC assigned case/MNL# !!!

8-15 -2014: Interview scheduled.....August 28!

8-15 -2014: CEAC status: IN TRANSIT to Consular Section.

8-18-2014: CEAC status changed to "READY"

8-18-2014: Shots completed 2nd day. Medical complete. received a CD, papers, and passport

8-19-2014: Completed CFO seminar (Will return to CFO office to get sticker after Visa is in hand)

8-25-2014: Received hard copy of NVC case # assignment and fwd to consulate letter in mail.

8-28-2014: 1:00 am my time...........Interview done.........APPROVED !!! :dancing:(L):wow::wub::thumbs:

9-02-2014: Administrative Processing

9-04-2014: Issued

9-07-2014: Text msg from 2GO, Visa ready for pickup

9-08-2014: Visa in hand, CFO sticker obtained

--------AOS JOURNEY-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

12-05-2014: AOS Package at Chicago Lockbox received per U.S. mail tracking

12-19-2014: Received texts/emails that file has been accepted and routed. (All three...485, 131,765)

12-26-2014: Received Biometrics appointment notice. Scheduled 1-7-2015.

12-27-2014: Received NOA1 / I-797C in mail for all three applications.

01-07-2014: Biometrics completed in Fort Smith, AR. .. went in early, they took us no problem. Took maybe 10 minutes.

02-10-2015: Received text and emails notification of approved EAD and AP. Status changed to reflect approval.

02-17-2-15: Received NOA I-797 letter only.....for Advanced Parole in mail.

02-21-2015: Received EAD/AP combo card in mail today.

03-19-2015: Received the "Notice of Potential Interview Case" letter in mail today.

06-03-2015: Requested to expedite due to potential loss of funds if vacation had to be cancelled due to non acceptable travel docs to Mexico.

06-05-205: Response denying expedite. Stated while sounded important, only cases strictly adhering to the "qualification" to expedite are granted such process.

08-11-2015: Sent "out of processing time" inquiry

08-12-2015: Received generic response stating that due to workload factors USCIS anticipates a delay in completing your case."

08-15-2015: (Saturday@8am) received email stating a recent processing action has taken place on our case. Status:Card/Document Production

"We ordered your new card for MSCxxxxxxxx, and will mail it. You can expect your card within 30 days of approval of your application.

8-12-2015: Online status changed to "NEW CARD IS BEING PRODUCED" . Couple days later, received hard copy of notice.

8-31-2015: Received text notifying that "We mailed your new card"

9-01-2015: Received GREEN CARD!! 275 days from date of mailing/filing AOS.

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Algeria
Timeline
Posted

conclusion is you came here to THE US through K1 visa, you need to get married during the next 90 days if you will not, your I-94 form will expire and you will be out of status, once you get married , even if you did not file for a green card for whatever reason technecally you still on status. I-94 and I-485 are totally different form and procedures , once you get married I-94 doesnt matter anymore

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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Posted

conclusion is you came here to THE US through K1 visa, you need to get married during the next 90 days if you will not, your I-94 form will expire and you will be out of status, once you get married , even if you did not file for a green card for whatever reason technecally you still on status. I-94 and I-485 are totally different form and procedures , once you get married I-94 doesnt matter anymore

First of all, I'm the petitioner and my wife is the K-1. Secondly, I've been married for over 2 months.

I know in detail the differences in all the forms and their function.

The only thing I'm not sure of is this so called "out of status" or "expired U.S. occupancy". Obviously no one else on this site is sure of it either because there are many different answers and posts all stating different "non professional" opinions.

While this site is very helpful, I always check my facts with the official government websites and/or personel. I know everyone means well and

is simply trying to help, but there was and still is bad/wrong info posted a lot during the K-1 process and forums by some very senior members. Luckily I did my homework and knew better, unfortunately not all do.

So unless you are a government employee of the uscis, I appreciate all the opinions ( I did ask for them), but they are just that...opinions.

I've already filed for her AOS, so IF I decide to do the research, I will post my findings at a later date so I can join the the rest of the group of unprofessional opinions. LOL

Happy posting...

I (Todd) am the petitioner from the U.S. / Beth is in/from Philippines :thumbs:

---------------VISA JOURNEY---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

6-30-2014: Mailed I129F Packet to Dallas Lockbox......... H e e e r e WE g o o o o o!! (L):wub::dance:

7-08-2014: Received email confirmation & text of application packet receipt and case #. Texas Service Center.

7-11-2014: Received actual letter confirmation of receipt and case #.

7-11-2014: Received email notification of Alien registration # being changed.

7-31-2014: Received text/email of I129F approval (Post Decision Activity) yes, we were processed at TSC!

8-04-2014: Received hard copy NOA2 in mail confirming approved and sent to NVC.

8-05-2014: Received text/email and USCIS status update. 2nd half of Post Decision Activity - Sent to DOS for processing.

8-13-2014: NVC assigned case/MNL# !!!

8-15 -2014: Interview scheduled.....August 28!

8-15 -2014: CEAC status: IN TRANSIT to Consular Section.

8-18-2014: CEAC status changed to "READY"

8-18-2014: Shots completed 2nd day. Medical complete. received a CD, papers, and passport

8-19-2014: Completed CFO seminar (Will return to CFO office to get sticker after Visa is in hand)

8-25-2014: Received hard copy of NVC case # assignment and fwd to consulate letter in mail.

8-28-2014: 1:00 am my time...........Interview done.........APPROVED !!! :dancing:(L):wow::wub::thumbs:

9-02-2014: Administrative Processing

9-04-2014: Issued

9-07-2014: Text msg from 2GO, Visa ready for pickup

9-08-2014: Visa in hand, CFO sticker obtained

--------AOS JOURNEY-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

12-05-2014: AOS Package at Chicago Lockbox received per U.S. mail tracking

12-19-2014: Received texts/emails that file has been accepted and routed. (All three...485, 131,765)

12-26-2014: Received Biometrics appointment notice. Scheduled 1-7-2015.

12-27-2014: Received NOA1 / I-797C in mail for all three applications.

01-07-2014: Biometrics completed in Fort Smith, AR. .. went in early, they took us no problem. Took maybe 10 minutes.

02-10-2015: Received text and emails notification of approved EAD and AP. Status changed to reflect approval.

02-17-2-15: Received NOA I-797 letter only.....for Advanced Parole in mail.

02-21-2015: Received EAD/AP combo card in mail today.

03-19-2015: Received the "Notice of Potential Interview Case" letter in mail today.

06-03-2015: Requested to expedite due to potential loss of funds if vacation had to be cancelled due to non acceptable travel docs to Mexico.

06-05-205: Response denying expedite. Stated while sounded important, only cases strictly adhering to the "qualification" to expedite are granted such process.

08-11-2015: Sent "out of processing time" inquiry

08-12-2015: Received generic response stating that due to workload factors USCIS anticipates a delay in completing your case."

08-15-2015: (Saturday@8am) received email stating a recent processing action has taken place on our case. Status:Card/Document Production

"We ordered your new card for MSCxxxxxxxx, and will mail it. You can expect your card within 30 days of approval of your application.

8-12-2015: Online status changed to "NEW CARD IS BEING PRODUCED" . Couple days later, received hard copy of notice.

8-31-2015: Received text notifying that "We mailed your new card"

9-01-2015: Received GREEN CARD!! 275 days from date of mailing/filing AOS.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Mexico
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Posted (edited)

conclusion is you came here to THE US through K1 visa, you need to get married during the next 90 days if you will not, your I-94 form will expire and you will be out of status, once you get married , even if you did not file for a green card for whatever reason technecally you still on status. I-94 and I-485 are totally different form and procedures , once you get married I-94 doesnt matter anymore

Getting married does not give you legal status in the US. It does not invalidate the I-94. That information is incorrect.

Not my non-professional opinion. These are the immigration laws. I will include links, since I have already researched all of this and read the forms, laws, rules, policies, federal codes, BIA rulings, etc.

Getting married alone does not do anything for your legal status in the US. Getting married within 90 days of entry makes you eligible to file for AOS. Filing for AOS will place you in a new period of authorized stay. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1255

If marrying a USC is all it took for legal status in the US, then there would be no reason for the required spousal visa for a foreign spouse to enter the US. There would be no reason for the need to file an I-130 and I-485 to adjust status when marrying a non-citizen within the US. Marriage to a USC gives absolutely no legal status to stay in the US.

When you enter with a spousal visa, you are entering with an immigrant visa and you receive lawful permanent residency status upon entry. When you enter with a fiance(e) visa, you are entering with a non-immigrant visa and all the laws pertaining to an entry with a non-immigrant visa apply to someone entering with a K-1, except that a K-1 entrant cannot apply to extend the stay on their visa(http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/general/visa-expiration-date.html). The only difference is that with a K-1, you become eligible to file for AOS when you marry your USC petitioner within 90 days of entry. When your I-94 expires, you are indeed out of status, which is the same as unlawful presence, and once you file for AOS you will be an adjustment applicant and are legally permitted to stay in the US while waiting for your AOS to be processed. Once approved, you will then become a lawful permanent resident.

If you have been married for two years at the time your adjustment of status is approved, then you will receive a 10 year green card. If you have been married less than 2 years when your AOS is approved, then you will receive a 2 year conditional card. The condition being that you must file to remove conditions within 90 days before it expires. For ROC you will need to provide proof that your marriage is valid and real and not for the sole purpose of immigration. When your ROC is approved, you will then receive a 10 year green card. The same applies to those that enter with a spousal visa. If they are married less than 2 years at the time of US entry, then they receive a 2 year conditional green card and will need to fie for ROC. If they are married for more than 2 years when they enter, then they will receive a 10 year card and no need to file for ROC.

http://www.uscis.gov/green-card/after-green-card-granted/conditional-permanent-residence/remove-conditions-permanent-residence-based-marriage

Your permanent residence status is conditional if it is based on a marriage that was less than 2 years old on the day you were given permanent residence. You are given conditional resident status on the day you are lawfully admitted to the United States on an immigrant visa or adjustment of your status to permanent residence.

http://www.justice.gov/eoir/vll/intdec/vol25/3707.pdf

(2) A fiancé(e) visa holder whose bona fide marriage to the fiancé(e) visa petitioner is more than 2 years old at the time the adjustment application is adjudicated is not subject to the provisions for conditional resident status under section 216 of the Act, 8 U.S.C. § 1186a (2006).
Edited by KayDeeCee

Link to K-1 instructions for Ciudad Juarez, Mexico > https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/K1/CDJ_Ciudad-Juarez-2-22-2021.pdf

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Algeria
Timeline
Posted

Getting married does not give you legal status in the US. It does not invalidate the I-94. That information is incorrect.

Not my non-professional opinion. These are the immigration laws. I will include links, since I have already researched all of this and read the forms, laws, rules, policies, federal codes, BIA rulings, etc.

Getting married alone does not do anything for your legal status in the US. Getting married within 90 days of entry makes you eligible to file for AOS. Filing for AOS will place you in a new period of authorized stay. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1255

If marrying a USC is all it took for legal status in the US, then there would be no reason for the required spousal visa for a foreign spouse to enter the US. There would be no reason for the need to file an I-130 and I-485 to adjust status when marrying a non-citizen within the US. Marriage to a USC gives absolutely no legal status to stay in the US.

When you enter with a spousal visa, you are entering with an immigrant visa and you receive lawful permanent residency status upon entry. When you enter with a fiance(e) visa, you are entering with a non-immigrant visa and all the laws pertaining to an entry with a non-immigrant visa apply to someone entering with a K-1, except that a K-1 entrant cannot apply to extend the stay on their visa(http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/general/visa-expiration-date.html). The only difference is that with a K-1, you become eligible to file for AOS when you marry your USC petitioner within 90 days of entry. When your I-94 expires, you are indeed out of status, which is the same as unlawful presence, and once you file for AOS you will be an adjustment applicant and are legally permitted to stay in the US while waiting for your AOS to be processed. Once approved, you will then become a lawful permanent resident.

If you have been married for two years at the time your adjustment of status is approved, then you will receive a 10 year green card. If you have been married less than 2 years when your AOS is approved, then you will receive a 2 year conditional card. The condition being that you must file to remove conditions within 90 days before it expires. For ROC you will need to provide proof that your marriage is valid and real and not for the sole purpose of immigration. When your ROC is approved, you will then receive a 10 year green card. The same applies to those that enter with a spousal visa. If they are married less than 2 years at the time of US entry, then they receive a 2 year conditional green card and will need to fie for ROC. If they are married for more than 2 years when they enter, then they will receive a 10 year card and no need to file for ROC.

http://www.uscis.gov/green-card/after-green-card-granted/conditional-permanent-residence/remove-conditions-permanent-residence-based-marriage

http://www.justice.gov/eoir/vll/intdec/vol25/3707.pdf

no

nobody said it gives you legal status or the right to stay in the US, what I meant is you can file for the AOS anytime you want without lose the right to do it after your I-94 expired, because if so even if you get married they wont accept your I-485 and they will deny it and tell you to get out of the US and file for new Visa from the begining, and if you do, I dont guarantee you that they will give it to you that easy (happened to my friend, took him years to get back to the US, and had been interviewed for 3 times and got denied)

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Mexico
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Posted

nobody said it gives you legal status or the right to stay in the US, what I meant is you can file for the AOS anytime you want without lose the right to do it after your I-94 expired, because if so even if you get married they wont accept your I-485 and they will deny it and tell you to get out of the US and file for new Visa from the begining, and if you do, I dont guarantee you that they will give it to you that easy (happened to my friend, took him years to get back to the US, and had been interviewed for 3 times and got denied)

You are the one that said, "once you get married , even if you did not file for a green card for whatever reason technecally you still on status. I-94 and I-485 are totally different form and procedures , once you get married I-94 doesnt matter anymore." But getting married you are not 'still on status' and once you get married, the I-94 does still matter for your legal status in the US. If you were trying to say something else, such as you must marry within 90 days before your I-94 expires in order to be eligible to file for AOS, then yes. You must marry within 90 days of entry with a K-1 in order to be eligible to file for AOS based on the approved I-129F petition and K-1 visa entry.

However, if someone does not marry within the 90 days, they can get married past the 90 days and file an I-130 along with an I-485 in order to adjust status. Their eligibility will then be based on the I-130 petition approval instead.

Link to K-1 instructions for Ciudad Juarez, Mexico > https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/K1/CDJ_Ciudad-Juarez-2-22-2021.pdf

 
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