No Indictment for New York Police

[LibCampFireClub 635]

isn't a pack like 20 bucks in ny?

I dunno. They say it's like 15-bucks. I don't live there. But, for sure, the whacky taxes on cigarettes encourage people to buy them in another state, and bring them to New York and sell them for a huge profit. Obviously someone could triple their money real quick. Those who vote for taxes simply flush their money down the toilet. A politician asks for more of your money and says they will be responsible with it? When did that ever work out?

Edited December 4, 2014 by ExExpat

[Karee 4,190]

I've been arrest a time or more. I've never been told I was under arrest until I was cuffed. ever. I've been told to stop resisting, gimme your arm, stop biting you !@#$%^&*%$#@, etc. but, never 'you're under arrest' until I was cuffed.

eta: then you're given the Miranda rights.

Funny when I was arrested they asked me pretty please to be nice. I even told them I refused to be arrested unless I could put the cuffs on myself and drive the police car to jail. They said since I was white, it was cool. No problem.

[LibCampFireClub 635]

Funny when I was arrested they asked me pretty please to be nice. I even told them I refused to be arrested unless I could put the cuffs on myself and drive the police car to jail. They said since I was white, it was cool. No problem.

That was my experience also. In fact, we all went out for drinks before going to the station. That's how it is for white America.

[decocker 7,198]

I dunno. They say it's like 15-bucks. I don't live there. But, for sure, the whacky taxes on cigarettes encourage people to buy them in another state, and bring them to New York and sell them for a huge profit. Obviously someone could triple their money real quick. Those who vote for taxes simply flush their money down the toilet. A politician asks for more of your money and says they will be responsible with it? When did that ever work out?

well, that's the entire argument for legalizing drugs period.

but we also pay the feds to go after people making THEIR tax money on cigarettes. this is the case i was thinking of last night, was a three year investigation covering three states. and this wasn't petty singles, obviously.

do you think between all these agencies and employees the feds broke even or lost money in the chase? meh, job security at least.

The investigation of the case was conducted by Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosive, the Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigations, ICE Homeland Security Investigations and the Shenandoah County Sheriff’s Department.

http://www.whsv.com/home/headlines/Cigarette_Trafficking_Conspirators_Indicted_in__133195153.html

[LibCampFireClub 635]

well, that's the entire argument for legalizing drugs period.

but we also pay the feds to go after people making THEIR tax money on cigarettes. this is the case i was thinking of last night, was a three year investigation covering three states. and this wasn't petty singles, obviously.

do you think between all these agencies and employees the feds broke even or lost money in the chase? meh, job security at least.

http://www.whsv.com/home/headlines/Cigarette_Trafficking_Conspirators_Indicted_in__133195153.html

Well, now you switch to legalizing, which causes an additional problem. Look at Colorado for example. Nice places to buy weed of all shapes and sizes. A controlled environment with a bunch of under 30 folk with life debilitating conditions. All is well until the cartel sees an opening. 50-bucks a gram for the same mouseSHIT we got? Well, let's sell it on the street for 30. The black market in Colorado has exploded. Welcome to anarchy.

[decocker 7,198]

Well, now you switch to legalizing, which causes an additional problem. Look at Colorado for example. Nice places to buy weed of all shapes and sizes. A controlled environment with a bunch of under 30 folk with life debilitating conditions. All is well until the cartel sees an opening. 50-bucks a gram for the same mouseSHIT we got? Well, let's sell it on the street for 30. The black market in Colorado has exploded. Welcome to anarchy.

soo..you're saying that the government should still maintain some sort of control over the substances that people will undoubtedly smuggle and black market?

[LibCampFireClub 635]

soo..you're saying that the government should still maintain some sort of control over the substances that people will undoubtedly smuggle and black market?

Well hell. Did you actually think I would want to relinquish control to these people?

[decocker 7,198]

Well hell. Did you actually think I would want to relinquish control to these people?

i'm slow. you want the media to manage drugs and other taxables?

[LibCampFireClub 635]

i'm slow. you want the media to manage drugs and other taxables?

How much for that bag of Scarborough Fair?

[LibCampFireClub 635]

Funniest Graphic of the Day Award:

Every time I see this animated GIF, it takes me thirty minutes to stop laughing:

[SMOKE 1,426]

isn't a pack like 20 bucks in ny?

about 6 months ago, $9.00 - $12.50 a pack depending on city & county I was in.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Marv, you've exhausted your race card. I know that's tough news for you as you've relied on it for every breath. Now that your race card is gone, everyone reverts to common sense, which you appear devoid.

I haven't used the race card. Because I don't have to make asinine remarks about race or post videos that have nothing to do with the subject. I asked you a simple question. If I'm moving too fast for you, let me know and I'll downshift, cause I'm that kind of guy.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

i'm slow. you want the media to manage drugs and other taxables?

[LibCampFireClub 635]

about 6 months ago, $9.00 - $12.50 a pack depending on city & county I was in.

That's enough incentive for someone in another state to buy up cigarettes at 5 bucks a pack and sell them at a big profit.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Well, now you switch to legalizing, which causes an additional problem. Look at Colorado for example. Nice places to buy weed of all shapes and sizes. A controlled environment with a bunch of under 30 folk with life debilitating conditions. All is well until the cartel sees an opening. 50-bucks a gram for the same mouseSHIT we got? Well, let's sell it on the street for 30. The black market in Colorado has exploded. Welcome to anarchy.

Claims void of any evidence or basis in fact. Or simply: the usual from you. Yes, the black market continues to exist - largely because it still offers lower prices - but there's nothing I can find that would confirm your claim that it has "exploded" since recreational pot was legalized in Colorado. Rather, there are reports out there that indicate that the opposite is the case.

The report concludes that it remains "unclear how large the black market is in Colorado and how the introduction of retail marijuana will affect its size." The authors speculate that if the price of unregulated pot remains as high as it was in early 2014, "the black-market production could continue" -- albeit only if that higher price remains competitive with the regulated market. But they argue that the regulated market is "likely to reduce market share held by the black market. If prices are similar, consumers would likely shift to the regulated market because the selection, quality, and product safety is generally much higher at a licensed retail provider."

There is some anecdotal evidence that supports the numbers supplied by Orens about the size of the black market in Colorado. Earlier this year, The Washington Post spoke to Mexican marijuana farmers who said that the wholesale price of marijuana is falling, due in part to rapidly changing laws in the U.S., and driving them out of the cannabis trade. News site Vice also recently spoke with retired federal agent Terry Nelson, who said that legalization is "hurting the cartels," which aren't "able to move as much cannabis inside the U.S. now."

A 2012 report by the Mexican Competitive Institute, a Mexican think tank, forecast that recreational marijuana legalization in Colorado, Washington state and Oregon might cut into drug cartels' profits by as much as 30 percent.

Edited December 5, 2014 by Mr. Big Dog