No Indictment for New York Police

[Janelle2002 3,865]

They did appear clueless when Eric blacked out. There were a bunch of cops there before the ambulance arrived. I have to believe that some of them had training. Why wasn't anything done or was it normal to wait for trained help in an example like this? I haven't folllowed this case, was anything written about the procedure the police used while waiting for medical help?

They used the coffee and doughnut procedure. Didn't you see the video?????

[aaydrian 479]

They did appear clueless when Eric blacked out. There were a bunch of cops there before the ambulance arrived. I have to believe that some of them had training. Why wasn't anything done or was it normal to wait for trained help in an example like this? I haven't folllowed this case, was anything written about the procedure the police used while waiting for medical help?

I don't know proper police procedure but I recall that either the cops, EMT or both were admonished for not giving Garner CPR.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

He has to be trolling at this point. I can't believe he is asking these questions otherwise.

Yea, asking logical questions is trolling. It's much easier to take the everyoine hates me because I'm black approach.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

Yea, asking logical questions is trolling. It's much easier to take the everyoine hates me because I'm black approach.

I didn't know you are black.

That is a bad approach to take. There are some really good people out here. Unfortunately, the ones that do the bad things are publicized more.

[Jacque67 7,328]

My guess is nobody wanted to be sued if anyone failed in performing an emergency procedure. They already knew the guy who grabbed him around the neck was in deep sh:t.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

I don't know proper police procedure but I recall that either the cops, EMT or both were admonished for not giving Garner CPR.

They should have been if they didn't do what they are supposed to do in a situation like that. There were a lot of cops there, not just one or two. I saw a cop in a sport coat, so he must have been a detecitve or someone higher up.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

My guess is nobody wanted to be sued if anyone failed in performing an emergency procedure. They already knew the guy who grabbed him around the neck was in deep sh:t.

I'm sure that somewhere in there they figured they were gong to be in hot water for what happened. A simple arrest ends up with the supect dead, and he wasn't shot. A freak thing, no doubt.

[aaydrian 479]

How can you fear being sued because you might not be able to save a life so instead stand idealy around? Those guys looked like they were worried because they just made a huge mistake.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

When you wake up in the morning do you set out on a mission to find fault from your morning pee to your cornflakes, and your before bedtime rage?

I am shocked the filter let you say Pee and cornflakes

give him a paper bag. he was still having difficulty breathing. a bag or a little mouth to mouth wouldn't have hurt anybody

Why not? I am a very calm, cool and collect person.

For a freaking Asthma attack ?

Note to VJ members, If I am ever sick and Janelle comes for first aid, shoot her..

P.S. get a black member to do it to avoid political fall out

If it is sour and cream, not at all. They are my favorite chips.

When you see someone is not breathing or have an emergency, you help. A paper bag, coach them to take deep breathes, you dont ignore them because you feel like they should die, especially if you wear a badge and you are sworn to protect and uphold the law.

What? Am I speaking your language? I think you like dirty talk. Where do you go after you are finished with VJ for the night?

There you go with the paper bag for respiratory arrest trick. Are you trying to kill them for real ?

[spookyturtle 9,466]

I am shocked the filter let you say Pee and cornflakes

For a freaking Asthma attack ?

Note to VJ members, If I am ever sick and Janelle comes for first aid, shoot her..

P.S. get a black member to do it to avoid political fall out

There you go with the paper bag for respiratory arrest trick. Are you trying to kill them for real ?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Question. Are those men indicted? Do they get to say, I was in fear of my life and walk?

Their deaths are no less important. What's funny about this is you're using this logic now. When we talk about Islam, you seem to reverse it.

Not at all. Muslims kill more Muslims also

I met a Muslim lady tonight at Belks. She was working there and had on the head scarf thing. She helped my wifes Filipina friend get a discount on a purse. nice lady

I still checked it to make sure it did not have a bomb before i left the store

The had blacks.asians and Muslims working in the store. In the deep south no less

P.S. I can give you 7K off a brand new 2014 Camry SE with nav and moon roof.

Edited December 4, 2014 by The Nature Boy

[unsmiley 111]

I don't know if it has been covered earlier in this thread, as I have been too lazy to read through it all - and this case has been all over the news here - but I'd like to point out a couple of things:

1) Garner had 30 prior arrests.

2) Although emergency care should always be rendered when necessary, shouldn't the cops be on guard for possible faking of breathing difficulties in this type of situation? This may have complicated things, since he was resisting them and was huge.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Not at all. Muslims kill more Muslims also

I met a Muslim lady tonight at Belks. She was working there and had on the head scarf thing. She helped my wifes Filipina friend get a discount on a purse. nice lady

I still checked it to make sure it did not have a bomb before i left the store

The had blacks.asians and Muslims working in the store. In the deep south no less

P.S. I can give you 7K off a brand new 2014 Camry SE with nav and moon roof.

But you hold out for a higher price when selling a car to blacks.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

I am shocked the filter let you say Pee and cornflakes

For a freaking Asthma attack ?

Note to VJ members, If I am ever sick and Janelle comes for first aid, shoot her..

P.S. get a black member to do it to avoid political fall out

There you go with the paper bag for respiratory arrest trick. Are you trying to kill them for real ?

What you meant to say was, note to VJ. If I ever need mouth to mouth please call Janelle.

NOTED.

[lostinblue 1,989]

Kidding about what? I expected more medical attention before the ambulance got their. They checked his pulse and his breathing. I thought more should have been done. But as I said, I don't know what is appropriate treatment.

4 EMS workers barred from duty after chokehold death

Four emergency-service workers who found a man unconscious on the sidewalk after a cop put him in a chokehold — and apparently did nothing to aid him — have been barred from going on any more ambulance calls pending a probe, officials said Sunday.

A seven-minute video captured the last few minutes of diabetic dad Eric Garner’s life — and the apparent procedural lapses by two medics and two EMTs, sources told The Post.

“It was pretty obvious this patient was in distress,” a source said. “His body was limp and lifeless.”

Yet none of the workers — nor the eight cops on hand — can be seen in the video administering any aid to Garner. One medic at Garner’s side doesn’t even have any of the required equipment on her, such as an oxygen bag or a defibrillator, the source said.

“You can [only] hear her say, ‘Oh, he can’t walk to the bus?’ ” the source said.

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Eric Garner’s father, mother and wife joined supporters at a rally Sunday.

Garner should have been immediately placed on a stretcher, and his airway, breathing and circulation checked, sources said. Instead, EMT Nicole Palmeri can be seen only checking for a pulse. She never uses a stethoscope to check his lungs for air movement, a source said, nor does she connect him to an oxygen mask.

“Maybe the EMT felt a pulse, but it was obvious this male was in serious distress and needed to be assisted with his breathing,” the source said.

Garner died of cardiac arrest en route to the hospital.

Palmeri and the other emergency workers are employed by Richmond University Hospital on Staten Island, but dispatched by the FDNY, which issued the restriction.

Palmeri did not return a phone message seeking comment.

Garner — who was 6-foot-5, about 350 pounds and suffered from asthma — was suspected of illegally peddling cigarettes when cops approached him at around 5 p.m. Thursday.

Undercover Officer Daniel Pantaleo was caught on video putting him in a chokehold — a violation of NYPD procedure.

Pantaleo has been named in two civil-rights lawsuits, one of which was settled by the city for $30,000, the Staten Island Advance reported Sunday. Pantaleo and three other officers unlawfully stopped a vehicle and strip-searched two men.

Pantaleo, who has been stripped of his badge and weapon, did not return requests for comment.

State NAACP President Hazel Dukes said, “Communities of color are sick and tired of this familiar story. Mr. Garner is one of too many New Yorkers who have unjustly had their lives cut short by police officers.’’

http://nypost.com/2014/07/20/4-ems-workers-barred-from-duty-after-chokehold-death/