Hypothetically Speaking

[mentaleruptions 0]

Speaking hypothetically here going through immigration myself having got the K-1 Visa and now in possession of a two year temporary green card would my immigration status be at risk if I took employment with a company that knowingly employees illegal immigrants ? If I was to turn a blind eye and be found out could this be used against me to either deport me from the country or be denied on my application to get my ten year green card?

Not that I plan on taking such a job nor do I condone such things but I'm merely curious as to what affect this could have on ones immigration status.

Tom

[jordanianprincess 0]

Speaking hypothetically here going through immigration myself having got the K-1 Visa and now in possession of a two year temporary green card would my immigration status be at risk if I took employment with a company that knowingly employees illegal immigrants ? If I was to turn a blind eye and be found out could this be used against me to either deport me from the country or be denied on my application to get my ten year green card?

Not that I plan on taking such a job nor do I condone such things but I'm merely curious as to what affect this could have on ones immigration status.

Tom

I don't think so, not if you just merely work there. If you are doing the hiring, you might be part of an investigation. If you are the owner, you will have some hefty fines to pay. But you are not guilty by association and you don't have to report it if you don't want to.

[Henia 11]

I am not a lawyer nor do I know all the laws here in the US, but I donnot see why you working with illegals would make any troubles for you. It is the problem of the company you work for I believe. Unless you are in recruitment and management. But as I said I am not a lawyer, so better to ask those who know.

[Henia 11]

From the NY times

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

I'd be angry that the illegals keep the wages low and pay less taxes than you.

[mentaleruptions 0]

So lets say this company actually helped people illegaly enter the country and I new about that ? I'm sure without saying so that it's obvious where this is going so I'm wanting to make sure I'm more than covered.

Tom

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I'd be angry that the illegals keep the wages low and pay less taxes than you.

I just took on a second job as a server for a big chain restaurant. All of the kitchen crew is hispanic along with the bussers, while maybe two of the servers are of hispanic descent but look and sound like they were born and raised here. Regardless of what one thinks about illegal immigration, the restaurant industry alone would come to a screeching halt without a steady flow of undocumented workers. I'm not going to get into a drawn out argument over whether it's right or wrong - that point seem moot by now. The fact is they are here, have been here and will continue to be here...and we've all benefitted from it in one way or another.

Edited January 30, 2007 by Steven_and_Jinky

[mentaleruptions 0]

I'd be angry that the illegals keep the wages low and pay less taxes than you.

I just took on a second job as a server for a big chain restaurant. All of the kitchen crew is hispanic along with the bussers, while maybe two of the servers are of hispanic descent but look and sound like they were born and raised here. Regardless of what one thinks about illegal immigration, the restaurant industry alone would come to a screeching halt without a steady flow of undocumented workers. I'm not going to get into a drawn out argument over whether it's right or wrong - that point seem moot by now. The fact is they are here, have been here and will continue to be here...and we've all benefitted from it in one way or another.

Id like to say im in no way wanting to start an arguement and i do feel anyone in this world has the right to a better life. Just wanting to cover myself on the off chance someone blows the whistle on things mentioned in this subject.

Tom

[Savanphil 3]

Id like to say im in no way wanting to start an arguement and i do feel anyone in this world has the right to a better life. Just wanting to cover myself on the off chance someone blows the whistle on things mentioned in this subject.

Tom

As long as all of your paperwork is in order, then you have nothing to worry about.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I'd be angry that the illegals keep the wages low and pay less taxes than you.

I just took on a second job as a server for a big chain restaurant. All of the kitchen crew is hispanic along with the bussers, while maybe two of the servers are of hispanic descent but look and sound like they were born and raised here. Regardless of what one thinks about illegal immigration, the restaurant industry alone would come to a screeching halt without a steady flow of undocumented workers. I'm not going to get into a drawn out argument over whether it's right or wrong - that point seem moot by now. The fact is they are here, have been here and will continue to be here...and we've all benefitted from it in one way or another.

Id like to say im in no way wanting to start an arguement and i do feel anyone in this world has the right to a better life. Just wanting to cover myself on the off chance someone blows the whistle on things mentioned in this subject.

Tom

As somebody said earlier, unless you are involved in the hiring of illegals and are doing so deliberately, I don't think you should worry.

When I was hired by the restaurant, I was required by Federal Law to provide 2 forms of valid ID. My guess is all workers have to provide the same kind of documentation so it would be difficult to say who are legitimate and who used forged documents.

[jordanianprincess 0]

I'd be angry that the illegals keep the wages low and pay less taxes than you.

I just took on a second job as a server for a big chain restaurant. All of the kitchen crew is hispanic along with the bussers, while maybe two of the servers are of hispanic descent but look and sound like they were born and raised here. Regardless of what one thinks about illegal immigration, the restaurant industry alone would come to a screeching halt without a steady flow of undocumented workers. I'm not going to get into a drawn out argument over whether it's right or wrong - that point seem moot by now. The fact is they are here, have been here and will continue to be here...and we've all benefitted from it in one way or another.

Id like to say im in no way wanting to start an arguement and i do feel anyone in this world has the right to a better life. Just wanting to cover myself on the off chance someone blows the whistle on things mentioned in this subject.

Tom

As somebody said earlier, unless you are involved in the hiring of illegals and are doing so deliberately, I don't think you should worry.

When I was hired by the restaurant, I was required by Federal Law to provide 2 forms of valid ID. My guess is all workers have to provide the same kind of documentation so it would be difficult to say who are legitimate and who used forged documents.

Right. It's actually pretty scary how legitimate some of them look.

[kitkat1 5]

Huh?

Unless you are the hiring manager willingly and knowingly accepting false documentation, there is no relationship between your legal job and your legal documents and a company potentially getting in trouble due to hiring illegals. You can't be held responsible for anything. It's not your job to report them. You can't get in trouble for "turning a blind eye". You are not in charge.

[peejay 327]

I'd be angry that the illegals keep the wages low and pay less taxes than you.

I just took on a second job as a server for a big chain restaurant. All of the kitchen crew is hispanic along with the bussers, while maybe two of the servers are of hispanic descent but look and sound like they were born and raised here. Regardless of what one thinks about illegal immigration, the restaurant industry alone would come to a screeching halt without a steady flow of undocumented workers. I'm not going to get into a drawn out argument over whether it's right or wrong - that point seem moot by now. The fact is they are here, have been here and will continue to be here...and we've all benefitted from it in one way or another.

Id like to say im in no way wanting to start an arguement and i do feel anyone in this world has the right to a better life. Just wanting to cover myself on the off chance someone blows the whistle on things mentioned in this subject.

Tom

As somebody said earlier, unless you are involved in the hiring of illegals and are doing so deliberately, I don't think you should worry.

When I was hired by the restaurant, I was required by Federal Law to provide 2 forms of valid ID. My guess is all workers have to provide the same kind of documentation so it would be difficult to say who are legitimate and who used forged documents.

Then why call them undocumented workers? Sounds like they have plenty of counterfeit and stolen documents. That is why the government correctly refers to them as "illegal aliens" instead of the misleading PC terms "undocumented workers" or the even more misleading "immigrants".

[jordanianprincess 0]

I'd be angry that the illegals keep the wages low and pay less taxes than you.

I just took on a second job as a server for a big chain restaurant. All of the kitchen crew is hispanic along with the bussers, while maybe two of the servers are of hispanic descent but look and sound like they were born and raised here. Regardless of what one thinks about illegal immigration, the restaurant industry alone would come to a screeching halt without a steady flow of undocumented workers. I'm not going to get into a drawn out argument over whether it's right or wrong - that point seem moot by now. The fact is they are here, have been here and will continue to be here...and we've all benefitted from it in one way or another.

Id like to say im in no way wanting to start an arguement and i do feel anyone in this world has the right to a better life. Just wanting to cover myself on the off chance someone blows the whistle on things mentioned in this subject.

Tom

As somebody said earlier, unless you are involved in the hiring of illegals and are doing so deliberately, I don't think you should worry.

When I was hired by the restaurant, I was required by Federal Law to provide 2 forms of valid ID. My guess is all workers have to provide the same kind of documentation so it would be difficult to say who are legitimate and who used forged documents.

Then why call them undocumented workers? Sounds like they have plenty of counterfeit and stolen documents. That is why the government correctly refers to them as "illegal aliens" instead of the misleading PC terms "undocumented workers" or the even more misleading "immigrants".

There are both. Some work with absoulutly no documentation and recieve cash for their services. Other use a fake identity. There are places where a person can go and buy a fake greencard and SS card. They used to be able to obtain a CA driver's license with those but now some states check the social before issueing the license and Caifornia is one of those. Oregan doesn't verify the SS# so alot of Illegals go there to get their license.

If they are actually working on a payroll ,they are referred to as illegal aliens. I used to work in HR for a large company that had alot of illegals working there. Once it was discovered, we had to let them all go.

[Traviesa 0]

If they are actually working on a payroll ,they are referred to as illegal aliens. I used to work in HR for a large company that had alot of illegals working there. Once it was discovered, we had to let them all go.

That's what's probably about to happen here, as a result of my little investigation that I did a couple weeks ago. I'm not in HR though, just a semi-bored accounting person who needed something to do. I have handed over my list of those who have ITINs and SSNs that didn't work with the IRS so we'll see what happens to them. Only difference is ours are independent contractors instead of employees.