The Umbrella Rantolution

[SAT 9,609]

most times, it is likely one of these GFI outlets in the group that is powered by that circuit breaker.

Or it's the circuit breaker itself.

Do you have BX wiring? (Armored cable)

[SAT 9,609]

you have 1 circuit breaker with 2 separate switches on it, 15- 20 amp each, and they both tripped and won't reset? If the answer is yes, then it's the circuit breaker itself.

Is the Christmas tree being powered by this breaker? If yes, it may be the tree tripped it, and the breaker went bad and won't reset.

You may have more appliances plugged in to this circuit than last year. And now it has overloaded. Tripped the breaker, and breaker went bad.

[TBoneTX 45,580]

1. most times, it is likely one of these GFI outlets in the group that is powered by that circuit breaker.

2. Or it's the circuit breaker itself.

Many. Do you have BX wiring? (Armored cable)

1. There are several, none of which have ever caused trouble, no man. But the conundrum is how to test them if there's no current, currently man.

2. They're only Many (2+2) years old, young man, so either one croaked early or there was an overload, I think man.

Many. I have no idea and the casa-inspection dude didn't say anything pre-purchase, no idea and no man.

[N-o-l-a 7,168]

TB after Steve's advice and trying to DIY:

[SAT 9,609]

Tark it sounds like the breaker went bad, (but something did cause it to trip) I dunno what your local codes are, the breaker is a few dollars and fairly easy to change (But you have to pull the main switch) The job takes 5 minutes.

Unplug everything and try reseting the breakers.

[TBoneTX 45,580]

1. you have 1 circuit breaker with 2 separate switches on it, 15- 20 amp each, and they both tripped and won't reset? If the answer is yes, then it's the circuit breaker itself.

2. Is the Christmas tree being powered by this breaker? If yes, it may be the tree tripped it, and the breaker went bad and won't reset.

Many. You may have more appliances plugged in to this circuit than last year. And now it has overloaded. Tripped the breaker, and breaker went bad.

1. It has two seemingly separate switches, but only one tripped. That "half" of the switch can't be flipped off and on again by itself, no man; the entire "paired" switch on that breaker must be flipped, see man. Flipping off and back on had no effect on the outaged power, no man.

2. Si man, but all was well yesterday and most of today, normalcy man.

Many. Nothing's extra that I see, no man. Only large items are one TV and the tree, mystery man.

[SAT 9,609]

1. There are several, none of which have ever caused trouble, no man. But the conundrum is how to test them if there's no current, currently man.

Multimeter.....(electrician)

do the unplug everything test first......

1. It has two seemingly separate switches, but only one tripped. That "half" of the switch can't be flipped off and on again by itself, no man; the entire "paired" switch on that breaker must be flipped, see man. Flipping off and back on had no effect on the outaged power, no man.

2. Si man, but all was well yesterday and most of today, normalcy man.

Many. Nothing's extra that I see, no man. Only large items are one TV and the tree, mystery man.

when you flip it back "on" does it seem to be snug in the "on" position? if yes, most likely your breaker. If not...may be breaker or short circuit, or some kinda overload.

the Xmas tree set could have caused the GFI that it's plugged into to fail. unplug that and click "TEST" and then try to reset breaker.

TB after Steve's advice and trying to DIY:

That's the whole idea.....

I'll learn him about deleting my posts........

Edited November 27, 2014 by SAT

[TBoneTX 45,580]

TB after Steve's advice and trying to DIY:

That foto is understated, no touch man.

Tark it sounds like the breaker went bad, (but something did cause it to trip) I dunno what your local codes are, the breaker is a few dollars and fairly easy to change (But you have to pull the main switch) The job takes Many minutes.

Unplug everything and try reseting the breakers.

No codes to worry about here, no man; goes bad, replace it one's self, efficient man.

Neighbor, if available, can probably help, helpful neighbor man.

Dunno whether Home Despot et al. are open tomorrow for breaker-purchase, no man.

Will try unplug/reset in morn, si man.

Multimeter.....(electrician)

do the unplug everything test first......

Shall go Totally Unplugged, si man.

[TBoneTX 45,580]

1. when you flip it back "on" does it seem to be snug in the "on" position? if yes, most likely your breaker. If not...may be breaker or short circuit, or some kinda overload.

2. the Xmas tree set could have caused the GFI that it's plugged into to fail. unplug that and click "TEST" and then try to reset breaker.

1. Seemed to, seem man, but went back outside a second time and it was unsnug from "on," sigh man.

2. Ah -- nothing except an unused food-type machine of Mrs. T-B.'s is plugged into any GFI outlet, and that wasn't used anytime tonight, no man. The tree is plugged into a regular outlet, tree man.

[SAT 9,609]

Follow these directions to a Tee.......do not deviate.....

1- feel around the circuit breaker panel with your fingers for loose screws.

2- Feel copper connections with both hands to see if loose

3- Feel bare wiring for corrosion

4- But first, turn off main switch

[SAT 9,609]

1. Seemed to, seem man, but went back outside a second time and it was unsnug from "on," sigh man.

2. Ah -- nothing except an unused food-type machine of Mrs. T-B.'s is plugged into any GFI outlet, and that wasn't used anytime tonight, no man. The tree is plugged into a regular outlet, tree man.

ok sounds like a bad breaker. But something still caused it to trip. So the problem may be 2 prong. Or just simply overloaded. Also, a GFI can fail just sitting there doing nothing. Any GFI.

[Ontarkie 14,304]

You guys have no concept of Tarkculus....it'd cost you 5k in expenses to earn the 1k bonus. Wait, actually, that is the perfect example of Tarkculus.....

Poor baby. Are you giving him anything for it?

I give my kiddo hylands all natural cough syrup....

http://hylands.com/products

Bought giant peppermint stick to help his throat. He doesn't have a cough we just have to wait it out.

Went out to dinner.

El turkey soaking in brine......

Daughter crying for the turkey......

Poor girl

Given the crucial Polish-math correction just above, who is it who has no concept of Tarkculus, huh man?

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Is it possible for half of a circuit-breaker to go bad, huh man? In the middle of nothing, the power in two downstairs rooms went out, dark man. Looked at breaker-box; half of one switch was not fully "on," off man. Turned it and its Siamese twin off and back on; no effect, no man.

Of course, this happened after-hours on the eve of a holiday, sigh man. If there's a bright spot amidst this darkness, it's that the affected rooms are probably (with the exception of a TV) the least crucial in the casa, hmmmph man.

Short of calling an electrician (this is not within my or Mrs. T-B.'s skill sets), what can be done, huh man?

Been there what a pain in the butt.

you have 1 circuit breaker with 2 separate switches on it, 15- 20 amp each, and they both tripped and won't reset? If the answer is yes, then it's the circuit breaker itself.

Is the Christmas tree being powered by this breaker? If yes, it may be the tree tripped it, and the breaker went bad and won't reset.

You may have more appliances plugged in to this circuit than last year. And now it has overloaded. Tripped the breaker, and breaker went bad.

Tark it sounds like the breaker went bad, (but something did cause it to trip) I dunno what your local codes are, the breaker is a few dollars and fairly easy to change (But you have to pull the main switch) The job takes 5 minutes.

Unplug everything and try reseting the breakers.

I changed two of ours, not hard to figure out the breaker is bad.

[TBoneTX 45,580]

(Polish-math fails ignored) Without looking, box is tight as a drum, trust man.

Perhaps bad breaker plus overload, bad trip man.

Well aware that GFIs can fail even worse than some folks at Polish math, sigh man...

Wonder if replacing the breaker but not fixing any overload will blow out new breaker, huh man.

1. Bought giant peppermint stick to help his throat. He doesn't have a cough we just have to wait it out.

2. I changed two of ours, not hard to figure out the breaker is bad.

1. Poor baby, wee man.

2. You're invited here at this moment, D ma'am. Teach Mrs. T-B. some domestic skills, too, bonus ma'am.

[SAT 9,609]

A good quality breaker will not break just because it tripped. It is in itself, a switch that is meant to be turned on and off.

So the answer is no, an overload circuit will not break the breaker. It will trip the breaker

[SAT 9,609]

Your low grade poor knowledge of a man's basic skills leads me to believe that you must be an accountant.....

And stretches extraordinary DIY skills makes her a brut.