'Terror-Free' Gas Coming to a Pump Near You

[mawilson 2,133]

I never understood why they chose "freedom". Why not "American"?

Or "liberty"? As in France -> Statue of Liberty?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Bit of a stretch to see what food has to do with "Freedom" or "liberty"

[mawilson 2,133]

Bit of a stretch to see what food has to do with "Freedom" or "liberty"

Everything! Food tastes better when it's free

[eric&gen 0]

I guess if i were to go pay and pump gas at a local non 'Terror-Free' station would that make me a terrorist???!!! What a joke lol.

[Sinergy 3]

I go whereever it is cheapest, or closest. in my case the ghetto gas station is closest, and its not the cheapest. so i guess i really dont care as long as i can make it from point a to point b without gliding

[Queen Jenn 0]

Bit of a stretch to see what food has to do with "Freedom" or "liberty"

Everything! Food tastes better when it's free

For Sure. And it tastes better when someone else does the work cooking it, too.

[almaty 19]

I go whereever it is cheapest, or closest. in my case the ghetto gas station is closest, and its not the cheapest. so i guess i really dont care as long as i can make it from point a to point b without gliding

amen. i also do the same..if the meddlin cartel was selling it a nickel cheaper i am there

[Portlander 0]

Thats right - it is merely hype. Instead, go local... biofuels. They work, they are practical, and 100% of the $$ stays local. Direct farmer coops, or even make it yourself with DIY kits. With biofuels there are ZERO greenhouse gasses, too (all emissions were taken put of the atmosphere as the plant grew)

I'm running an '84 Mercedes biodiesel. I can fill up with petroleum diesel in a pinch with no ill effects... its essentially the same stuff. Only the plants petroleum comes from died 100 million years ago. The first diesel engine was designed to run biodiesel. The chem companies were able to convince peope to go with petrol instread.

Best thing? NO WAR REQUIRED

That's fine for some, but there is not enough land on earth to grow the crops to make enough biodiesel to run all the cars, even if they all had diesel engines (which they don't). I don't hold out a lot of hope for biofuels for this reason. I hope I'm proven wrong, but I fear I won't be.

UTTER BULLSH!T. That is propaganda you are listening to.

IF we only use the kernals from corn that is currently in production, then it will drive up corn prices. But still meet need. However, they've been making ethanol from cellulose (the corn husks, stalks - the inedible bits) for quite a while, and there are new technologies on the horizon to sequester the CO2 lost in the fermentation process - this alone would make 10% of the current annual corn crop fully fuel the US for 1 year. AND corn isn't the most efficient crop to use.

Also, they make biodiesel out of algae these days. Thats grown in water. Salt water. SEA water. a full 50% of algal biobass is oil. Not bad, huh?

[homesick_american 1]

UTTER BULLSH!T. That is propaganda you are listening to.

IF we only use the kernals from corn that is currently in production, then it will drive up corn prices. But still meet need. However, they've been making ethanol from cellulose (the corn husks, stalks - the inedible bits) for quite a while, and there are new technologies on the horizon to sequester the CO2 lost in the fermentation process - this alone would make 10% of the current annual corn crop fully fuel the US for 1 year. AND corn isn't the most efficient crop to use.

Like I said before, I hope you're right. I support biofuel, but according to pretty much everything I've read it's not sufficient to meet America's energy needs.

Also, they make biodiesel out of algae these days. Thats grown in water. Salt water. SEA water. a full 50% of algal biobass is oil. Not bad, huh?

Yes, I've heard about this. Wouldn't it also take tens of billions of dollars in capital investments in infrastructure to actually realize the potential of this technology?

[Portlander 0]

Certainly would take a big infrastructure investment. 10s of billions is a fraction of what we are spening in Iraq this year. 10s of billions is the amount of cash that the US exposts when if buys foreign oil. 10s of billions is also money that would go to spur the local economy. It would make lots of local jobs! Local jobs that won't be exported. 10s of billions is a fraction of what it will take to deal with the negative side effects of Global Warming.

If you analyze US news reports, you find that 80% more more suggest Global Warming is a scientific controversy. On the contrary, it is wholly accepted in the scientific community. Exxon pays scientists 10K a pop to pubish scientific reports that question Global Warming. The scientific community does not debate (1) whether global warming occurs, nor (2) that we are exacerbating the problem, nor (3) greenhouse gasses are a big part of the problem. Those are just not in doubt, despite what you read in the major American media.

My favorite... Many republicans who all of a sudden decried ethanol production because it raised the price of corn in Mexico. That was the funniest bit of spin since Bush said (slight paraphrase) "required the troops to come home early will make the troops stay longer."