Obamacare Architect: Lack of Transparency Was Key Because ‘Stupidity Of The American Voter’ Would Have Killed Obamacare

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

That's about 2% of the healthcare system. Not even close to being a solution.

And there you have it. That is what your newly elected Congress will attempt to do - leave you with nothing.

Not jsut leave me nothing, leave the whole country saddled with an mediocre health care system that costs us twice as much as every other system in the world,

[LibCampFireClub 635]

There is a solution. It's not the first alternative, but it's getting closer all the time. WAR. Then, afterward sort it all out, spread it around, and start all over again. We've done that quite a few times. Ghengis Khan, Alexander the Great, the french guy with a stomach problem. Maybe it's just time to use all those bombs and chemical weapons to make the decisions. I'm not a prepper, so I might go in the first wave.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

single payer. like the dems could have done with the complete control they had, when they pushed this BS on us. now the republicans will do it & take the credit.

the dems passed 0bamacare all by themselves. check the votes. got it!

Give up smoke. Just like the video says "the bill depends on the stupidity of the american voter" Your replies will not penetrate such dense ignorance.

[LibCampFireClub 635]

The people of America did NOT support this bill or vote on it as a line item on a ballot. Their congressman and Senators jammed it down their throats and said, "What a good boy are YOU!"

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

single payer. like the dems could have done with the complete control they had, when they pushed this BS on us. now the republicans will do it & take the credit.

the dems passed 0bamacare all by themselves. check the votes. got it!

Republicans will do single payer? Is that what you're saying. If so, please pass the bong!

[SMOKE 1,426]

Republicans will do single payer? Is that what you're saying. If so, please pass the bong!

its the only solution to fixing 0bama & the dems train wreck. they had complete control, they could have done it. but, no. they decided to screw everyone.

Edited November 11, 2014 by SMOKE

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

its the only solution to fixing 0bama & the dems train wreck. they had complete control, they could have done it. but, no. they decided to screw everyone.

What we have today is far from where we need to be but it's a hell of a lot better than where we were. I have always been supportive of a single payer system and maybe one day America will wise up and get itself one of those. But given the current state of affairs, it won't be Republicans bringing it about. One would have to be either disconnected from reality or high on dope - or maybe both - to think otherwise.

[SMOKE 1,426]

What we have today is far from where we need to be but it's a hell of a lot better than where we were. I have always been supportive of a single payer system and maybe one day America will wise up and get itself one of those. But given the current state of affairs, it won't be Republicans bringing it about. One would have to be either disconnected from reality or high on dope - or maybe both - to think otherwise.

idk we'll see

[rlogan 2,036]

What we have today is far from where we need to be but it's a hell of a lot better than where we were. I have always been supportive of a single payer system and maybe one day America will wise up and get itself one of those. But given the current state of affairs, it won't be Republicans bringing it about. One would have to be either disconnected from reality or high on dope - or maybe both - to think otherwise.

Obamacare as a vehicle for single payer socialized medicine. I don't say that pejoratively - just being clear about what a lot of people seem to think is the political accomplishment.

I think you need to look reality in the face with how insurance company profits are the main thing that was accomplished here. The government promised to underwrite the insurance losses. What they actually got was the keys to the U.S. Treasury.

That is not paying for health care. That is paying insurance companies. Incredibly, they've also been given the legal authority to force insurance on people. Not health care, but insurance. People of this country have been lulled to sleep with manipulative rhetoric about insurance = health care.

Health care is not insurance. Single payer is a euphemism for socialized medicine, and we just need to talk straight about what we are doing. It is better than what we are doing right now with Obamacare. Absolutely. But only if the insurance companies can be fired and the money start going into patient care instead. We have no need for insurance companies AND all of the huge Hospital Administration staff.

Cut them out. Completely.

Edited November 11, 2014 by rlogan

[rlogan 2,036]

Hogwash. The bill was posted online - everyone had access to see it and see what's in it.

That isn't true.

When different bills pass the House and Senate, a conference committee is called. That conference committee produces a political compromise of some kind including logrolling - trading votes on other bills like highway construction, military spending or whatever...

We can't know beforehand what a conference committee (joint bill) is going to look like. So we have to wait and see. Just like Pelosi said. I don't mean this in the same sneering condescension it is peddled as. Rather, this is just what our system of checks and balances was set up to do: Reconciling Senate vs. House bills that differ.

Now the bad news. Guess who has the ear of the conference committee members? Goldman-Sachs, Berkshire Hathaway, Prudential, MetLife...

You ever been to a $50,000 a plate fundraiser dinner? Oh, I sure have. Just about every week. I'm so rich my servants have mansions.

Edited November 11, 2014 by rlogan

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

That isn't true.

When different bills pass the House and Senate, a conference committee is called. That conference committee produces a political compromise of some kind including logrolling - trading votes on other bills like highway construction, military spending or whatever...

We can't know beforehand what a conference committee (joint bill) is going to look like. So we have to wait and see. Just like Pelosi said. I don't mean this in the same sneering condescension it is peddled as. Rather, this is just what our system of checks and balances was set up to do: Reconciling Senate vs. House bills that differ.

Now the bad news. Guess who has the ear of the conference committee members? Goldman-Sachs, Berkshire Hathaway, Prudential, MetLife...

You ever been to a $50,000 a plate fundraiser dinner? Oh, I sure have. Just about every week. I'm so rich my servants have mansions.

The ACA didn't go to Conference Committee.

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/01/04/tnr-no-conference-committee-for-obamacare/

"Democrats have decided against using a conference committee to pursue a compromise on ObamaCare that can pass both the House and the Senate, The New Republic reported yesterday and The Corner confirmed today. Instead, they have decided to play ping-pong in an attempt to pass one version that can go to Barack Obama’s desk:"

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

The ACA didn't go to Conference Committee.

Correct. It didn't. The Senate bill is what eventually became the ACA - and that bill was available online.

That isn't true.

When different bills pass the House and Senate, a conference committee is called. That conference committee produces a political compromise of some kind including logrolling - trading votes on other bills like highway construction, military spending or whatever...

We can't know beforehand what a conference committee (joint bill) is going to look like. So we have to wait and see. Just like Pelosi said. I don't mean this in the same sneering condescension it is peddled as. Rather, this is just what our system of checks and balances was set up to do: Reconciling Senate vs. House bills that differ.

Now the bad news. Guess who has the ear of the conference committee members? Goldman-Sachs, Berkshire Hathaway, Prudential, MetLife...

You ever been to a $50,000 a plate fundraiser dinner? Oh, I sure have. Just about every week. I'm so rich my servants have mansions.

More hogwash. See above.

[Merle 458]

How many changes have been made to the ACA since it became law? Doesn't that speak to how much of a pos it is?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

How many changes have been made to the ACA since it became law? Doesn't that speak to how much of a pos it is?

By law or by the Pen of the Preznit

[UncleBeer 244]

How many changes have been made to the ACA since it became law? Doesn't that speak to how much of a pos it is?

42 so far to date. The preznit does not have this power.

Ill-conceived, poorly-executed, intrusive, expensive, widely-reviled by a majority of citizens, burdensome and absurdly written. Thanks O'bama.