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Just want to say thank you to all that have given me positive and informative replies. I wish you all the best.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: England
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Good luck with whatever you choose to do.

With the sponsor make sure its someone close to you; people on VJ have had someone agree to sponsor them then back out at the last moment before! It is a big thing to agree to as a sponsor.

My blog about my visa journey and adjusting to my new life in the US http://albiontoamerica.wordpress.com/

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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You have some very big decisions to make. My advice is do NOT, do a Cr-1, but the K-1.,.,.. 1/2 the time, as the other route can and is being, 12-16 months.,.,.,. make sound finical decisions, and file your K-1...,.,.and God's speed with your approval, and YOUR, decision!

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For the upteenth time: intent alone is NOT a reason for denial of AOS. Even if USCIS suspected intent to stay it is NOT you who has to prove that you had no intent ( hard to prove a negative) rather USCIS would have to prove that there was intent to stay.

Plus, you had no intent. So why worry about it?

If this is the person you want to spend the rest of your life with, then marry and file for AOS.

Edited by EM_Vandaveer

Entry on VWP to visit then-boyfriend 06/13/2011

Married 06/24/2011

Our first son was born 10/31/2012, our daughter was born 06/30/2014, our second son was born 06/20/2017

AOS Timeline

AOS package mailed 09/06/2011 (Chicago Lockbox)

AOS package signed for by R Mercado 09/07/2011

Priority date for I-485&I-130 09/08/2011

Biometrics done 10/03/2011

Interview letter received 11/18/2011

INTERVIEW DATE!!!! 12/20/2011

Approval e-mail 12/21/2011

Card production e-mail 12/27/2011

GREEN CARD ARRIVED 12/31/2011

Resident since 12/21/2011

ROC Timeline

ROC package mailed to VSC 11/22/2013

NOA1 date 11/26/2013

Biometrics date 12/26/2013

Transfer notice to CSC 03/14/2014

Change of address 03/27/2014

Card production ordered 04/30/2014

10-YEAR GREEN CARD ARRIVED 05/06/2014

N-400 Timeline

N-400 package mailed 09/30/2014

N-400 package delivered 10/01/2014

NOA1 date 10/20/2014

Biometrics date 11/14/2014

Early walk-in biometrics 11/12/2014

In-line for interview 11/23/2014

Interview letter 03/18/2015

Interview date 04/17/2015 ("Decision cannot yet be made.")

In-line for oath scheduling 05/04/2015

Oath ceremony letter dated 05/11/2015

Oath ceremony 06/02/2015

I am a United States citizen!

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For the upteenth time: intent alone is NOT a reason for denial of AOS. Even if USCIS suspected intent to stay it is NOT you who has to prove that you had no intent ( hard to prove a negative) rather USCIS would have to prove that there was intent to stay.

Plus, you had no intent. So why worry about it?

If this is the person you want to spend the rest of your life with, then marry and file for AOS.

Thanks so much for your positive feedback. Your story is quite inspiring :) Thanks <3

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Thanks so much for your positive feedback. Your story is quite inspiring :) Thanks <3

Everyone else said everything already, but please don't make legal decisions solely based on opinions from VJ members. I'm not really sure what direction that person above you was trying to take you, but you read the comment from the person explaining the AoS route. Intent CAN cause problems and deportation, so yes, intent IS 100% an issue... for your fiance, not necessarily you. Ask any lawyer. Our lawyer warned us about intent when it comes to AoS & marrying on the VWP. The "intent" is that he was really coming in intending to marry you during his stay (even if that isn't the case, that's what they'll believe), and as you pointed out, they already grilled him about that in immigration.

K1s can take anywhere from 3-9 months, but typically they're in the middle range, so it wouldn't be as bad as you think. :)

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K-1 Visa

♥ 10/2/14- I-129F form sent
♥ 10/3/14- USCIS received I-129F
♥ 10/7/14- NOA1
4/24/15- NOA2 [6.5 months; 199 days]
♥ 5/11/15- NVC received & case number assigned
5/13/15- NVC left
5/14/15- Consulate received & ready for interview
6/15/15- Interview- APPROVED!!

7/10/15- Visa in hand

7/11/15- POE

7/14/15- Marriage (Civil)

AOS

7/20/15- AOS/EAD/AP sent together

7/23/15- NOA1 for all 3

8/17/15- Biometrics

8/31/15- Expedited AP document (all in one day)

9/22/15- EAD NOA2

9/30/15- Received EAD/AP combo card

11/20/15- AOS NOA2 (no interview)

11/25/15- Green card received! Woohoo!!!

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Check out our recent experience coming through JFK on VWP here!

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For the upteenth time: intent alone is NOT a reason for denial of AOS. Even if USCIS suspected intent to stay it is NOT you who has to prove that you had no intent ( hard to prove a negative) rather USCIS would have to prove that there was intent to stay.

This is a very naive idea.

There will be no 'proving' or 'non-proving.'

USCIS has only to deny. They don't have to prove anything.

Review any case where there was a denial.

You will find nothing about proving anything.

Asking USCIS or any government entity to 'prove' why they made a particular decision

will lead to nothing other than a few chuckles during their coffee breaks.

Sure after a lawsuit or administrative hearing process costing you thousands of dollars, a judge may rule in your favor finding that the government action was not warranted. But that is far different than you giving these rosy statements that the government has to prove something to deny.


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10 YEAR GREEN CARD PROCESS

July 22, 2017  ROC packet sent to Vermont.

July 24, 2017  ROC packet signed for in Vermont.

August 8, 2017  NOA received at house.  15 days since ROC signed for in VSC.

August 12, 2017 ASC appointment received. 19 days since ROC in VSC.

August 25, 2017 BIO completed. 32 days since ROC received in VSC.

August 11, 2018  18 month 'Courtesy Copy' extension letter received.  Critical number  297

October 20, 2018 18 month 'Official' extension letter received.  Critical number 297

December 4, 2018  USCIS Account shows: We approved your Form I-751, Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence, 

December 4, 2018, ordered your new card for Receipt # EAC17297003XX, and will mail to the address you gave.

491 days from NOA issued by VSC until Petition approved.

December 7, 2018 USCIS sent notice:  Card mailed.

December 12, 2018 Ten year Green Card received from Lees Summit, MO

499 days from NOA issued by VSC until Green Card received.

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CITIZENSHIP PROCESS

December 6, 2018 submitted N-400 application on-line.  Estimated Completion Time: 8 months or August 2019.

December 8, 2018 received notice on USCIS that Biometrics scheduled . . . but the actual date was not yet shown.

December 11, 2018 saw in 'Documents' section of USCIS that Bio scheduled for 24 December 2018.

December 21, 2018 saw on USCIS website that they will be closed 24 December 2018 as extra holiday.

January 9, 2019 went for re-scheduled BIO appointment.  33 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

February 19, 2019 received letter in US mail that Citizenship interview scheduled for 26 March 2019. 74 days after submission on-line.

March 26, 2019 Citizenship interview scheduled for.  109 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

March 26, 2019 Passed Citizenship interview.

April 12, 2019  Received notice that Oath Ceremony had been scheduled for 24 April 2019.  17 days after interview.

April 24, 2019  Oath Ceremony completed.  29 days after interview.     139 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

April 25, 2019  USA Passport Application submitted.

May 3, 2019     USA Passport received.    149 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

May 9, 2019     Certificate of Naturalization and Citizenship returned in mail.

 

 

 

 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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The lie that will not die.

Also a vote that in your situation filing to adjust seems a better option.

Some people do need to go back and can not wait for AP.

Unfortunately you will get a lot of people posting what they think is right not what is legal. Has been the case since I joined and unless the Mods delete their contributions will I assume always be.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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This is a very naive idea.

There will be no 'proving' or 'non-proving.'

USCIS has only to deny. They don't have to prove anything.

Review any case where there was a denial.

You will find nothing about proving anything.

Asking USCIS or any government entity to 'prove' why they made a particular decision

will lead to nothing other than a few chuckles during their coffee breaks.

Sure after a lawsuit or administrative hearing process costing you thousands of dollars, a judge may rule in your favor finding that the government action was not warranted. But that is far different than you giving these rosy statements that the government has to prove something to deny.

You are wrong, USCIS follows the law and their own policies, they do not just arbitrarily deny or approve cases. It is their own policy not to deny AOS based SOLELY on intent to stay. They could, but they choose not to.

Now, if there are other red flags (eg. they strongly suspect green card fraud), that is another story, but I personally don't see any in this case. My story was similar and I am in the process of obtaining my citizenship.

Edited by EM_Vandaveer

Entry on VWP to visit then-boyfriend 06/13/2011

Married 06/24/2011

Our first son was born 10/31/2012, our daughter was born 06/30/2014, our second son was born 06/20/2017

AOS Timeline

AOS package mailed 09/06/2011 (Chicago Lockbox)

AOS package signed for by R Mercado 09/07/2011

Priority date for I-485&I-130 09/08/2011

Biometrics done 10/03/2011

Interview letter received 11/18/2011

INTERVIEW DATE!!!! 12/20/2011

Approval e-mail 12/21/2011

Card production e-mail 12/27/2011

GREEN CARD ARRIVED 12/31/2011

Resident since 12/21/2011

ROC Timeline

ROC package mailed to VSC 11/22/2013

NOA1 date 11/26/2013

Biometrics date 12/26/2013

Transfer notice to CSC 03/14/2014

Change of address 03/27/2014

Card production ordered 04/30/2014

10-YEAR GREEN CARD ARRIVED 05/06/2014

N-400 Timeline

N-400 package mailed 09/30/2014

N-400 package delivered 10/01/2014

NOA1 date 10/20/2014

Biometrics date 11/14/2014

Early walk-in biometrics 11/12/2014

In-line for interview 11/23/2014

Interview letter 03/18/2015

Interview date 04/17/2015 ("Decision cannot yet be made.")

In-line for oath scheduling 05/04/2015

Oath ceremony letter dated 05/11/2015

Oath ceremony 06/02/2015

I am a United States citizen!

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Everyone else said everything already, but please don't make legal decisions solely based on opinions from VJ members. I'm not really sure what direction that person above you was trying to take you, but you read the comment from the person explaining the AoS route. Intent CAN cause problems and deportation, so yes, intent IS 100% an issue... for your fiance, not necessarily you. Ask any lawyer. Our lawyer warned us about intent when it comes to AoS & marrying on the VWP. The "intent" is that he was really coming in intending to marry you during his stay (even if that isn't the case, that's what they'll believe), and as you pointed out, they already grilled him about that in immigration.

K1s can take anywhere from 3-9 months, but typically they're in the middle range, so it wouldn't be as bad as you think. :)

You are going through a different process, you do not seem to know much about AOS from Tourist, Work etc visas. Intent is not an issue as intent ALONE does not cause denial.

Entry on VWP to visit then-boyfriend 06/13/2011

Married 06/24/2011

Our first son was born 10/31/2012, our daughter was born 06/30/2014, our second son was born 06/20/2017

AOS Timeline

AOS package mailed 09/06/2011 (Chicago Lockbox)

AOS package signed for by R Mercado 09/07/2011

Priority date for I-485&I-130 09/08/2011

Biometrics done 10/03/2011

Interview letter received 11/18/2011

INTERVIEW DATE!!!! 12/20/2011

Approval e-mail 12/21/2011

Card production e-mail 12/27/2011

GREEN CARD ARRIVED 12/31/2011

Resident since 12/21/2011

ROC Timeline

ROC package mailed to VSC 11/22/2013

NOA1 date 11/26/2013

Biometrics date 12/26/2013

Transfer notice to CSC 03/14/2014

Change of address 03/27/2014

Card production ordered 04/30/2014

10-YEAR GREEN CARD ARRIVED 05/06/2014

N-400 Timeline

N-400 package mailed 09/30/2014

N-400 package delivered 10/01/2014

NOA1 date 10/20/2014

Biometrics date 11/14/2014

Early walk-in biometrics 11/12/2014

In-line for interview 11/23/2014

Interview letter 03/18/2015

Interview date 04/17/2015 ("Decision cannot yet be made.")

In-line for oath scheduling 05/04/2015

Oath ceremony letter dated 05/11/2015

Oath ceremony 06/02/2015

I am a United States citizen!

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The fact that they were grilled but then let in works in their favor, as it was determined at POE that there was no intent.

Entry on VWP to visit then-boyfriend 06/13/2011

Married 06/24/2011

Our first son was born 10/31/2012, our daughter was born 06/30/2014, our second son was born 06/20/2017

AOS Timeline

AOS package mailed 09/06/2011 (Chicago Lockbox)

AOS package signed for by R Mercado 09/07/2011

Priority date for I-485&I-130 09/08/2011

Biometrics done 10/03/2011

Interview letter received 11/18/2011

INTERVIEW DATE!!!! 12/20/2011

Approval e-mail 12/21/2011

Card production e-mail 12/27/2011

GREEN CARD ARRIVED 12/31/2011

Resident since 12/21/2011

ROC Timeline

ROC package mailed to VSC 11/22/2013

NOA1 date 11/26/2013

Biometrics date 12/26/2013

Transfer notice to CSC 03/14/2014

Change of address 03/27/2014

Card production ordered 04/30/2014

10-YEAR GREEN CARD ARRIVED 05/06/2014

N-400 Timeline

N-400 package mailed 09/30/2014

N-400 package delivered 10/01/2014

NOA1 date 10/20/2014

Biometrics date 11/14/2014

Early walk-in biometrics 11/12/2014

In-line for interview 11/23/2014

Interview letter 03/18/2015

Interview date 04/17/2015 ("Decision cannot yet be made.")

In-line for oath scheduling 05/04/2015

Oath ceremony letter dated 05/11/2015

Oath ceremony 06/02/2015

I am a United States citizen!

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Nobody has posted this information from the USCIS. It is worth a read to see what their opinion is on the topic, since so many other opinions are being offered.

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November 14, 2013

Policy Memorandum PM-602-0093

SUBJECT: Adjudication of Adjustment of Status Applications for Individuals Admitted to the United States Under the Visa Waiver Program

http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/nativedocuments/2013-1114_AOS_VWP_Entrants_PM_Effective.pdf

England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Hungary
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And it is fine to come to the US to marry.

What is not fine is to come with the intent to marry AND STAY.

I am sure people come to destination weddings (Hawaii, etc) marry then go home.

Entry on VWP to visit then-boyfriend 06/13/2011

Married 06/24/2011

Our first son was born 10/31/2012, our daughter was born 06/30/2014, our second son was born 06/20/2017

AOS Timeline

AOS package mailed 09/06/2011 (Chicago Lockbox)

AOS package signed for by R Mercado 09/07/2011

Priority date for I-485&I-130 09/08/2011

Biometrics done 10/03/2011

Interview letter received 11/18/2011

INTERVIEW DATE!!!! 12/20/2011

Approval e-mail 12/21/2011

Card production e-mail 12/27/2011

GREEN CARD ARRIVED 12/31/2011

Resident since 12/21/2011

ROC Timeline

ROC package mailed to VSC 11/22/2013

NOA1 date 11/26/2013

Biometrics date 12/26/2013

Transfer notice to CSC 03/14/2014

Change of address 03/27/2014

Card production ordered 04/30/2014

10-YEAR GREEN CARD ARRIVED 05/06/2014

N-400 Timeline

N-400 package mailed 09/30/2014

N-400 package delivered 10/01/2014

NOA1 date 10/20/2014

Biometrics date 11/14/2014

Early walk-in biometrics 11/12/2014

In-line for interview 11/23/2014

Interview letter 03/18/2015

Interview date 04/17/2015 ("Decision cannot yet be made.")

In-line for oath scheduling 05/04/2015

Oath ceremony letter dated 05/11/2015

Oath ceremony 06/02/2015

I am a United States citizen!

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