The real problem with Americans and their disrespect for Obama—according to a Canadian

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Which lie? OMG, I've told oh so many lies my dear judge, jury, and executioner. It's okay. You're on the ropes and your trainer threw in the towel. I'll wait for you to turn your head to tell him you want to stay in the ring. Then, as soon as you turn your head: WHAM! POW! The knockout punch.

You've high tailed out of a few threads because either you contradicted your own statements or got caught flat out lying. But hey, if sucker punching is the only way you can win, you have fun with that.

It's an article talking about racial intolerance by Asians. I thought it was apropos for the discussion at hand...

get asked that question and various riffs on it like “why do Asians hate black people?” and “why do Asians only stick with other Asians?” all the time. While these questions may seem rude, I take them seriously, not least because they contain seeds of truth, even if they’re ultimately based on misinformation.

Before I get into what I meant by that, let’s get real about racism. Racism is distinct from ordinary bias because it was created as the justification for and original blueprint of a society in which race and class were pretty much the same thing. Class is how wealth and therefore power is organized. So, race and power are inextricable. And while parts of the original blueprint have changed over time, we built real structures, like our electoral college, ghettos, and suburbs, just to name a few examples, that continue to dictate the way we live today based on that blue print. We can change our minds about it, but unless we dismantle and rebuild those structures, we’re stuck with the inequities they create.

So, the long history of white supremacy, manifest as it is in the institutions and design of this society, creates a situation in which white racists are no more morally more bankrupt than any other brand of bigot, but they are more effective. After all, white as a racial category was created as the basis of a white supremacist political and economic system, just as “Asian,” and “Black,” etc., were created in order to dehumanize and subjugate non-whites within that same system. Even if you perceive Asians to be “so” racist, we’re certainly not more racist if you measure racism in terms of broad impact.

But there’s more. Asian immigrants almost never arrive here with an understanding of “Asian” as a race nor of the racial attitudes that prevail in the U.S. They have to be taught. New arrivals are inundated with racist messages as they grapple with what it means to be “American,” often without the benefit of actually knowing members of the racial groups that are being defamed, and without access to contrary sources of information in languages we speak. Imagine what it would be like to be a Vietnamese immigrant landing in Brownsville, New York’s blackest neighborhood, where 93% of residents have been stopped and frisked by police.

Newly arrived immigrants assimilate a culture in which it is business as usual for American authority figures to arbitrarily pick out black people and treat them like criminals. It’s not that hard to see why many reach the conclusion that black people are prone to criminality, a racist impression that will be reinforced by TV, conservative politicians, movies, and popular music. But we all consume these same messages. So are Asians more racist? I doubt it. Instead, I argue we are less subtle when we express our racism because we often don’t understand the accepted racial etiquette that we use to avoid provoking racial confrontations. And keep in mind, that etiquette tends to make racism more rather than less difficult to combat by forcing it underground.

The process of assimilation tends to twist many American national characteristics into caricature as immigrants for whom these characteristics are exotic attempt to distill and adopt them. This makes these characteristics, like racist beliefs, especially apparent.

But while Asians are certainly guilty of racism, we are also among its victims. That might be why 76% of Asian Americans polled by the National Asian American Survey support affirmative action against 14% who are opposed. Asian Americans also tend to favor humane immigration reform and Obamacare. These are all racially charged issues, especially in how they are treated by national political campaigns. Yet, Asian American opinion on these same issues seems unaffected by negative racial stereotyping.

And this thing about Asians only liking other Asians? Well, that’s sort of true, though I’m not sure “like” is the right word. Identify might be a better one. The peculiar way that Asians are treated results in a shared experience that most folks can’t relate to unless they’re Asian. So, many Asians do tend to identify very strongly with other Asians, especially those that belong to their particular ethnic heritage groups.

But, Asians aren’t more cliquish than other groups. In fact, whites are the most racially exclusive. 40% of whites, according to a recent Reuters commissioned study, don’t have friends of other races. Given the incredibly large number of whites relative to other groups, that’s a tough claim. It means that more whites don’t have friends of other races than the total number of people of color in the U.S. excluding Latinos. And this isn’t just indicative of how whites live, it’s also indicative of how whites think. If you don’t believe that, I present all six seasons of Sex and the City, ten more of Friends, and a whole pile of episodes of Girls as evidence.

Oh ok, I read this before.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

I've worked hard for everything I have. Unlike you, I don't have to resort to name calling and rude insults to get my point across. I have class. What's your excuse?

No, white people were crying and talking about the demise of America because Romney lost. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2230329/White-people-mourning-Mitt-Romney--blog-depicting-Americas-sadness-Barack-Obama-wins-US-Election.html

Also there were more pictures and t-shirts talking about taking the country back. I still don't know what that means. Maybe because there's been white presidents for how long? And white people make his race an issue plenty of times, like using the words tar baby to describe something close to him.

Demise? Noooo they said he was the "anit-Christ" and the end of the world was coming. You don't remember?

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You've high tailed out of a few threads because either you contradicted your own statements or got caught flat out lying. But hey, if sucker punching is the only way you can win, you have fun with that.

No worries. Your agenda is very clear to the posters in this forum. You see everything in life through race-colored glasses. It's so damned limiting for you and causes others to wish you could just break away and free yourself from that burden. Life is life man. You are what you are and for all the respect you demand and all the offense you take from this earth you hardly have time to just enjoy. That's cool. In truth, no one's punching you, or fighting you. You do a good enough job of that all by yourself.

WHAM! I did that when you were looking.

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Demise? Noooo they said he was the "anit-Christ" and the end of the world was coming. You don't remember?

When was the last time shops closed due to an election and there were signs up saying it was the end of America? I mean, we've had Dem presidents before, and I never saw such a reaction. And taking the country back? Where did our country go?

No worries. Your agenda is very clear to the posters in this forum. You see everything in life through race-colored glasses. It's so damned limiting for you and causes others to wish you could just break away and free yourself from that burden. Life is life man. You are what you are and for all the respect you demand and all the offense you take from this earth you hardly have time to just enjoy. That's cool. In truth, no one's punching you, or fighting you. You do a good enough job of that all by yourself.

And so is yours. Your blatant disrespect towards women, people of color, and Muslims is well documented.

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I am sure the reaction was based solely on the way he voted when he was in the Senate.

When was the last time shops closed due to an election and there were signs up saying it was the end of America? I mean, we've had Dem presidents before, and I never saw such a reaction. And taking the country back? Where did our country go?

[Janelle2002 3,865]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY

[LibCampFireClub 635]

And so is yours. Your blatant disrespect towards women, people of color, and Muslims is well documented.

You write as if you think someone other than you believes what you write. Fair enough. Hey, I also have a very little pee-wee. Even with that little pee-wee I will reach out to you as you lay on your self-inflicted boxing mat and give you a lift up. Cool huh?

Edited November 10, 2014 by ExExpat

[Janelle2002 3,865]

You write as if you think someone other than you believes what you write. Fair enough. Hey, I also have a very little pee-wee. Even with that little pee-wee I will reach out to you as you lay on your self-inflicted boxing mat and give you a lift up. Cool huh?

You really are upset a Canadian had to tell you what your problem is with Obama.

[JohnR! 5,495]

+100!! LeBron has a move for it...

You really are upset a Canadian had to tell you what your problem is with Obama.

[LibCampFireClub 635]

You really are upset a Canadian had to tell you what your problem is with Obama.

Canada? What's that? Do you mean like the soft drink? Is canada a person, place, or thing? Location maybe?

[Janelle2002 3,865]

+100!! LeBron has a move for it...

Thank you, thank you. Please try to hold all applause until the show is completely finished so the other contestants will not feel left out.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

You write as if you think someone other than you believes what you write. Fair enough. Hey, I also have a very little pee-wee. Even with that little pee-wee I will reach out to you as you lay on your self-inflicted boxing mat and give you a lift up. Cool huh?

That explains a lot.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

That explains a lot.

:rofl:

[LibCampFireClub 635]

It's getting really hard for the progs these days. They so fully expected their dear leader to rise to a fame unseen in human history. His team will in fact be immortalized,

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I haven't been to Kittery in years, but overall, I'd say living in Maine is more laid back than MA or RI, but only a miniscule black population, like 1.4%. So kinda like Northern rednecks.

I keep hearing there are no black people in RI. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing.