'Hitler's Order' member loses child custody

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

We don't need a lot of junk parents pour into their kids heads. However having fringe racist political beliefs should not be grounds to take peoples kids, unless the kids are being abused. It's a dangerous slippery line to cross.

For the same reason I am against state lead prayer in school. Who gets to decide which views are ok for raising kids and which are not. What happens when they take the kid of a rabid Muslim radical or a rabid Pentecostal radical. Are we going to set up a panel to vote which doctrine is ok and take the kids of those we don't agree with.

I am sure there were other issues.

NB, you are my internet boyfriend again. I agree with everything you say here. While I may find the ideology the man may (or may not) be teaching his children distasteful, unless it rises to the level of abuse that seems like some straight up BS.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

The valid comparison would be to ask if it would be correct to remove a child from home because the father is a supporter of terrorist jihad. There is no crime without actions. The very notoin of thoughtcrime is Orwellian. Literally.

So you think it is okay to teach children to incite violence against others?

NB, you are my internet boyfriend again. I agree with everything you say here. While I may find the ideology the man may (or may not) be teaching his children distasteful, unless it rises to the level of abuse that seems like some straight up BS.

Look, I'm just making discussion.

If your next door neighbor was teaching his son how to rape girls would you think he is worthy of keeping custody of his son? If you had actual proof?

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

So you think it is okay to teach children to incite violence against others?

Look, I'm just making discussion.

If your next door neighbor was teaching his son how to rape girls would you think he is worthy of keeping custody of his son? If you had actual proof?

If I had actual proof, I would think (not being someone who works for child welfare) that would rise to the level of abuse. But what do we actually know here? As JohnR says above, we may be discussing thoughtcrimes here, which is very troubling.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

If I had actual proof, I would think (not being someone who works for child welfare) that would rise to the level of abuse. But what do we actually know here? As JohnR says above, we may be discussing thoughtcrimes here, which is very troubling.

I agree. We don't really know what he actually did. I am discussing if this is what he did.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

So you think it is okay to teach children to incite violence against others?

Because I am sure this dad probably had card board cut outs of Jews at his house showing his son how to properly gut them.

All I am saying is that it is not the states place to decide what is and is not acceptable philosophy. When it crosses the line into illegal then it's another matter.

NB, you are my internet boyfriend again. I agree with everything you say here. While I may find the ideology the man may (or may not) be teaching his children distasteful, unless it rises to the level of abuse that seems like some straight up BS.

You are and always will be my fav cabba chick

it did say in the article he would not go to domestic abuse counseling so I am assuming he did something

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

So you think it is okay to teach children to incite violence against others?

Look, I'm just making discussion.

If your next door neighbor was teaching his son how to rape girls would you think he is worthy of keeping custody of his son? If you had actual proof?

Teaching a young boy how to rape would be exposing him to sexual material that would be inappropriate for a minor, and I am sure would fall under same state statue.

What if I was a rabid atheist and was teaching him hate against all Christians. Kind of the same thing in reverse.

[LibCampFireClub 635]

Where does one find the book of life and parenting on planet earth? You're right. There ain't one. That's why we have laws. It used to be the ten commandments, and for many it still is. But, apart from that, it's America, a nation of laws from which according to the current regime should be ignored. That wrinkled and smeared Constitution is a dirty word in the prog dressing room

[Janelle2002 3,865]

Teaching a young boy how to rape would be exposing him to sexual material that would be inappropriate for a minor, and I am sure would fall under same state statue.

What if I was a rabid atheist and was teaching him hate against all Christians. Kind of the same thing in reverse.

Teaching a kid to hate and to actually do something are 2 separate things. We don't know but he could have very well been teaching the kid how to kill people. You know, preparing him for his big day.

Are you okay with him preparing the boy as long as he hasn't given him a real body to practice with?

[Operator 1,927]

Teaching a kid to hate and to actually do something are 2 separate things. We don't know but he could have very well been teaching the kid how to kill people. You know, preparing him for his big day.

Are you okay with him preparing the boy as long as he hasn't given him a real body to practice with?

Janelle I totally get being against some Aryan D-bag. Nor do I think it's cool to raise your kid to be a D-bag but taking away someones kid only because you don't agree with their belief system is very wrong in my opinion.

You can't take someones child for what they might or might not end up doing.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Teaching a kid to hate and to actually do something are 2 separate things. We don't know but he could have very well been teaching the kid how to kill people. You know, preparing him for his big day.

Are you okay with him preparing the boy as long as he hasn't given him a real body to practice with?

How about if he is a survivalist and he training him to kill

[Janelle2002 3,865]

Janelle I totally get being against some Aryan D-bag. Nor do I think it's cool to raise your kid to be a D-bag but taking away someones kid only because you don't agree with their belief system is very wrong in my opinion.

You can't take someones child for what they might or might not end up doing.

You take them away so they won't end up doing it. This gives them a better chance.

How about if he is a survivalist and he training him to kill

Training for survival. okay. Teaching the kid to kill someone is nuts.

[Operator 1,927]

You take them away so they won't end up doing it. This gives them a better chance.

I respect your opinion but I think it's a slippery slope. I've have taught my son to shoot and a lot of people are against that.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

I respect your opinion but I think it's a slippery slope. I've have taught my son to shoot and a lot of people are against that.

Teaching your son to shoot dear and people are two completely different things. Would you teach your son to shoot people because of their religious beliefs?

[Operator 1,927]

Teaching your son to shoot dear and people are two completely different things. Would you teach your son to shoot people because of their religious beliefs?

I understand your point, I really do. I'm a good person and the Nazi isn't but if no crime or abuse is there his kid is his kid no matter what his beliefs are. Until he crosses the line no one has the right to take his family from him, again only my opinion.

Also, I taught my son to shoot accurately no matter the target, I'm confident that I raised him to make the right decisions so the rest is up to him.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

I understand your point, I really do. I'm a good person and the Nazi isn't but if no crime or abuse is there his kid is his kid no matter what his beliefs are. Until he crosses the line no one has the right to take his family from him, again only my opinion.

Also, I taught my son to shoot accurately no matter the target, I'm confident that I raised him to make the right decisions so the rest is up to him.

You think we should wait until the kid kills someone before we take him away?

I understand your point too. I'm just asking questions.