This school district lets seniors pose with guns

[Curmudgeon 227]

My question to JohnR! was not to imply he wants authoritarian government but instead to see what his true view is on guns and the second amendment. If he was somehow able to be King/Dictator/der Fuehrer of this country would he or would he not do away with the second amendment? He never answered but I already know where he stands on the second amendment so the question was just rhetorical.

This thread is not about the second amendment and no one, apart from you has made any reference to it. Your question has no relevance to anything being posted here.

[Curmudgeon 227]

Two teens who will not be receiving government entitlement checks anytime soon.

What's your premise? That people that own guns never need welfare? What evidence do you have for that somewhat bizarre statement?

[Merle 458]

This thread is not about the second amendment and no one, apart from you has made any reference to it. Your question has no relevance to anything being posted here.

If you say so.

[Merle 458]

Oh my! Look at all these inbred boys and girls. They are probably gonna hurt themselves or kill each other.

[Curmudgeon 227]

If you say so.

I do. If you think it has, you can try to explain your thought process, if you feel so inclined.

[Merle 458]

I do. If you think it has, you can try to explain your thought process, if you feel so inclined.

Ok, if that will make you happy. This thread started by someone posting about kids holding guns in a yearbook. Immediately the criticism started about how bad of an idea it was, guns are only made to kill, etc. Hail Ming! wrote "It is honestly an alien concept to me - as if having the gun is part of their identity. Just mad." and "I just think posing with a gun in a school photo is demented." To jump on the anti gun bandwagon, JohnR! posted "Guns should be treated as weapons - which is precisely what they are - and not flaunted in public as statement pieces no matter how inbred one's family tree is." Then you wrote "If you happen to have won a deal of marksmanship contests for your school, I can see why you might want to bring that into the context of a school photo, but other than that, it makes you wonder what message the kid is trying to send out." Guess what, they aren't trying to send out any statement. They are just doing what kids do in their part of the country. These anti gun statements and anti personal expression statements are right on the cusp of being against both the first and second amendments. And what makes it funny is that these comments are coming from a bunch of foreigners that didn't grow up in this country and came from places where they probably had no interactions with guns other than action movies and negative stories in the news papers about America's gun problems. Furthermore, it doesn't seem that any of you realize that many Americans grew up where hunting and shooting is a tradition and they do it day in and day out without incident. I wouldn't go to England and bad mouth the monarchy, I wouldn't go to Spain and bad mouth bull fighting, I wouldn't go to Australia and bad mouth vegemite, so why do you all come here and insult and bad mouth people for doing the things they have been doing since they, their parents, and their grand parents have done since childhood? Just live and let live.

[Curmudgeon 227]

Ok, if that will make you happy. This thread started by someone posting about kids holding guns in a yearbook. Immediately the criticism started about how bad of an idea it was, guns are only made to kill, etc. Hail Ming! wrote "It is honestly an alien concept to me - as if having the gun is part of their identity. Just mad." and "I just think posing with a gun in a school photo is demented." To jump on the anti gun bandwagon, JohnR! posted "Guns should be treated as weapons - which is precisely what they are - and not flaunted in public as statement pieces no matter how inbred one's family tree is." Then you wrote "If you happen to have won a deal of marksmanship contests for your school, I can see why you might want to bring that into the context of a school photo, but other than that, it makes you wonder what message the kid is trying to send out." Guess what, they aren't trying to send out any statement. They are just doing what kids do in their part of the country. These anti gun statements and anti personal expression statements are right on the cusp of being against both the first and second amendments. And what makes it funny is that these comments are coming from a bunch of foreigners that didn't grow up in this country and came from places where they probably had no interactions with guns other than action movies and negative stories in the news papers about America's gun problems. Furthermore, it doesn't seem that any of you realize that many Americans grew up where hunting and shooting is a tradition and they do it day in and day out without incident. I wouldn't go to England and bad mouth the monarchy, I wouldn't go to Spain and bad mouth bull fighting, I wouldn't go to Australia and bad mouth vegemite, so why do you all come here and insult and bad mouth people for doing the things they have been doing since they, their parents, and their grand parents have done since childhood? Just live and let live.

I see. Well, you might try to respond to what is actually being said, by the individuals that say it, rather than seeing some words and attributing thoughts and motivations to them that have not been stated.

I am simply asking the question, what message does a teenager want to send by posing for a school picture with a gun unless that gun represents something specific that he/she has achieved? You have responded with the fact that it's simply a cultural meme. I don't get it, not because I don't believe there are rural communities in the US where shooting and hunting is an integral part of daily life, or even that given that is so there is anything wrong with it in that context but why flaunt it unless you are trying to send a specific message? That's a question.

There may be a more valid response than, these kids are used to having guns in their day to day lives. I would have thought that something that is part of daily life would be less likely to feature in a tableau than something that is unusual or extraordinary about the person portrayed. What you are saying doesn't quite ring true. If it is simply part and parcel of who they are, why focus on that aspect? People pose with tennis rackets if they participated in the tennis team, people pose with footballs if they participated in the school football team - it says to the person looking at the picture, an important part of my school life was being a member of this or that team. What important part of school life does posing with a gun say about a teen who poses with a gun because they are used to having guns around them?

[Curmudgeon 227]

Clearly some of the pictures you posted are of teens/children who participate in competitive shooting so that makes sense to me.

[LibCampFireClub 635]

Oh my! Look at all these inbred boys and girls. They are probably gonna hurt themselves or kill each other.

Nice targeted grouping of photos. This bloodies the nose of so many school system officials in America who try to make-believe guns are evil instead of people and therefore guns should not exist.

[lostinblue 1,989]

The message these children are trying to send is that only a few young folks are crazed killers and the vast majority understand the responsibility one needs to handle a gun .

[lostinblue 1,989]

Ok, if that will make you happy. This thread started by someone posting about kids holding guns in a yearbook. Immediately the criticism started about how bad of an idea it was, guns are only made to kill, etc. Hail Ming! wrote "It is honestly an alien concept to me - as if having the gun is part of their identity. Just mad." and "I just think posing with a gun in a school photo is demented." To jump on the anti gun bandwagon, JohnR! posted "Guns should be treated as weapons - which is precisely what they are - and not flaunted in public as statement pieces no matter how inbred one's family tree is." Then you wrote "If you happen to have won a deal of marksmanship contests for your school, I can see why you might want to bring that into the context of a school photo, but other than that, it makes you wonder what message the kid is trying to send out." Guess what, they aren't trying to send out any statement. They are just doing what kids do in their part of the country. These anti gun statements and anti personal expression statements are right on the cusp of being against both the first and second amendments. And what makes it funny is that these comments are coming from a bunch of foreigners that didn't grow up in this country and came from places where they probably had no interactions with guns other than action movies and negative stories in the news papers about America's gun problems. Furthermore, it doesn't seem that any of you realize that many Americans grew up where hunting and shooting is a tradition and they do it day in and day out without incident. I wouldn't go to England and bad mouth the monarchy, I wouldn't go to Spain and bad mouth bull fighting, I wouldn't go to Australia and bad mouth vegemite, so why do you all come here and insult and bad mouth people for doing the things they have been doing since they, their parents, and their grand parents have done since childhood? Just live and let live.

:thumbs: And I approve of this message

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

The message these children are trying to send is that only a few young folks are crazed killers and the vast majority understand the responsibility one needs to handle a gun .

Why do the actions of a few bad gun owners, make anti-gun people assume all gun owners are bad. Why should I have to answer for what someone else does.

Does that sound familiar.

I mean it's not like legal gun owners are out there computing 50% of the violent crime in this country

Edited November 2, 2014 by The Nature Boy

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Why do the actions of a few bad gun owners, make anti-gun people assume all gun owners are bad. Why should I have to answer for what someone else does.

Does that sound familiar.

I mean it's not like legal gun owners are out there computing 50% of the violent crime in this country

Ban Poodles?

[LibCampFireClub 635]

Why do the actions of a few bad gun owners, make anti-gun people assume all gun owners are bad. Why should I have to answer for what someone else does.

Does that sound familiar.

I mean it's not like legal gun owners are out there computing 50% of the violent crime in this country

You needn't ask WHY. The answer is and always has been that progs absolutely know a better way to live. For this reason, anyone who deviates from their path is a non-conformer and should be cast out from society. Their is only one perfect model of life. They've got the secret.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Oh my! Look at all these inbred boys and girls. They are probably gonna hurt themselves or kill each other.

Perverts.