UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

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Marvin, it is a well known fact to anyone who has been to college that the black athletes are many orders of magnitude dumber than the white athletes.

Because dumb white kids don't go to college at all, they learn to shoot and run for office as Republicans.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Marvin, it is a well known fact to anyone who has been to college that the black athletes are many orders of magnitude dumber than the white athletes.

Because dumb white kids don't go to college at all, they learn to shoot and run for office as Republicans.

I don't like the phrase dumber than white athletes however

Many times the black football players come from some of the worst inner city schools, often growing up in extreme poverty with broken families. It's hard to catch up from 19 years of negligent in 6 months.

Of course generalizations are dangerous. I went to high school with Hershel Walker the greatest running back that ever lived. He was many magnitudes smarter than me. President of the Beta club, honors classes etc. I had very few classes with him for a reason..

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I went to high school with Hershel Walker the greatest running back that ever lived.

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So, you're saying that only black students were in these courses?

For years some folks on her have said that a black person with a university degree is overlooked for a white person with only a high school degree . That screams a racist system. . 60 minutes has in the past has stories about folks that take say simplified classes in order to stay in school. This has no bearing on their absorbing the knowledge base to function in a work environment . They are there to play ball and hope a professional team looks at them. So basket weaving 101,102,103,104.,105 is the favored course load to take. They end up with a worthless degree (for the employer ) The employer knows that it is worthless. (during the interview it is mentioned that the applicant "played ball " ) That person walks out without a job and if he or she is black the race card is pulled. Now anyone that was from that school is suspect. not just black folks. So sad.

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I'm assuming the ethnic break down of the students in these classes is not predominantly Caucasian or Asian. Do you think me assumption is off? Why?

Can't definitely say you're wrong because I don't know the racial makeup of the school, however, considering that the AA department was giving out easy A's then it's quite possible that a pretty high number of non Blacks took some of those paper classes too to up their GPA.

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Can't definitely say you're wrong because I don't know the racial makeup of the school, however, considering that the AA department was giving out easy A's then it's quite possible that a pretty high number of non Blacks took some of those paper classes too to up their GPA.

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I don't like the phrase dumber than white athletes however

Many times the black football players come from some of the worst inner city schools, often growing up in extreme poverty with broken families

Git on outta here with all that PC nonsense.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I'm assuming the ethnic break down of the students in these classes is not predominantly Caucasian or Asian. Do you think me assumption is off? Why?

Could be. I wouldn't take a course in it. Because that wouldn't help me get a job in the real world, unless I wanted to teach it at a school.

For years some folks on her have said that a black person with a university degree is overlooked for a white person with only a high school degree . That screams a racist system. . 60 minutes has in the past has stories about folks that take say simplified classes in order to stay in school. This has no bearing on their absorbing the knowledge base to function in a work environment . They are there to play ball and hope a professional team looks at them. So basket weaving 101,102,103,104.,105 is the favored course load to take. They end up with a worthless degree (for the employer ) The employer knows that it is worthless. (during the interview it is mentioned that the applicant "played ball " ) That person walks out without a job and if he or she is black the race card is pulled. Now anyone that was from that school is suspect. not just black folks. So sad.

But, how do you tell the difference? If someone has a degree in advanced mathematics, chances are they can't fake their way through it. And if someone took BW 101, I'd think it's suspect.

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I'm sure this is only isolated to Chapel Hill.

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I'm sure this is only isolated to Chapel Hill.

I don't even like basketball & I hate Duke. their fans are some of the most annoying I've ever encountered.

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Could be. I wouldn't take a course in it. Because that wouldn't help me get a job in the real world, unless I wanted to teach it at a school.

But, how do you tell the difference? If someone has a degree in advanced mathematics, chances are they can't fake their way through it. And if someone took BW 101, I'd think it's suspect.

So what are these degrees that black folks have when a white high school grad gets the job .instead. Provide some links .

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So what are these degrees that black folks have when a white high school grad gets the job .instead. Provide some links .

http://thinkprogress.org/education/2014/06/25/3452887/education-race-gap/

Doesn't specify. But let me guess. Now you think every black person who has a degree didn't earn it?

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Let me post this for folks who do not know how to click a link. He might say the link wasn't working.

African-American students need to complete two more levels of education to have the same probability of getting a job as their white peers, a new study by Young Invincibles finds.

The researchers looked at data mainly from the Bureau of Labor Statistics and the U.S. Census, isolating the effects of race and education on unemployment. They found that an African-American male with an associates degree has around the same chance of getting a job as a white male with just a high school diploma. “At every level of education, race impacts a person’s chance of getting a job,” Tom Allison, a research manager and one of the study’s authors, told ThinkProgress.

CREDIT: YOUNG INVINCIBLES

The gap in employment chances between whites and African Americans leads to a huge gap in unemployment rates, even long after the recession. In May of this year, African-American millennials faced a 16.6 percent unemployment rate, compared to a 7.1 percent rate for whites of the same age range (18 to 34 years old).

CREDIT: YOUNG INVINCIBLES

The study attributes the employment gap mainly to hiring discrimination, high incarceration rates for black people, and African Americans’ lack of inherited wealth from past generations due to a long history of discrimination. Less inherited wealth results in low homeownership rates and high deficits among African Americans: While a college-educated white American has an average net worth of $75,000, a college-educated black American has a net worth of less than $17,500.

But according to Rory O’Sullivan, Young Invincibles’ deputy director, there’s some good news.

According to the study, even though unemployment is higher among African Americans at every level of education, the added gains in income and employment opportunities gained from getting an additional degree is much greater for African Americans than whites. For example, a professional degree gives a black male a 146 percent larger increase in employment opportunities than his white counterparts. A bachelor’s degree raises the median wage of a black man by $10,000 per year, compared to a raise of $6,100 per year for a white man.

Allison also emphasized that the racial gap for both women and men gets smaller with higher and higher degrees. The employment gap between black and white men with bachelors degrees is only 5 percent. For women, it’s just 3 percent.

Even so, African Americans are much less likely to attain higher education degrees than whites, even though such degrees are becoming more and more valuable compared to high school degrees. According to Census Bureau data, blacks are almost twice as likely as whites to drop out of high school and are half as likely to get a post-baccalaureate degree.

As for solutions, Young Invincibles suggests early counseling to raise awareness of the benefits of college for African American students, more investment in community colleges and Pell Grants, and the implementation of alternatives to Affirmative Action for increasing diversity in states where Affirmative Action has been banned.

Abigail Bessler is an intern at ThinkProgress.

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Let me post this for folks who do not know how to click a link. He might say the link wasn't working.

African-American students need to complete two more levels of education to have the same probability of getting a job as their white peers, a new study by Young Invincibles finds.

The researchers looked at data mainly from the Bureau of Labor Statistics and the U.S. Census, isolating the effects of race and education on unemployment. They found that an African-American male with an associates degree has around the same chance of getting a job as a white male with just a high school diploma. “At every level of education, race impacts a person’s chance of getting a job,” Tom Allison, a research manager and one of the study’s authors, told ThinkProgress.

CREDIT: YOUNG INVINCIBLES

The gap in employment chances between whites and African Americans leads to a huge gap in unemployment rates, even long after the recession. In May of this year, African-American millennials faced a 16.6 percent unemployment rate, compared to a 7.1 percent rate for whites of the same age range (18 to 34 years old).

CREDIT: YOUNG INVINCIBLES

The study attributes the employment gap mainly to hiring discrimination, high incarceration rates for black people, and African Americans’ lack of inherited wealth from past generations due to a long history of discrimination. Less inherited wealth results in low homeownership rates and high deficits among African Americans: While a college-educated white American has an average net worth of $75,000, a college-educated black American has a net worth of less than $17,500.

But according to Rory O’Sullivan, Young Invincibles’ deputy director, there’s some good news.

According to the study, even though unemployment is higher among African Americans at every level of education, the added gains in income and employment opportunities gained from getting an additional degree is much greater for African Americans than whites. For example, a professional degree gives a black male a 146 percent larger increase in employment opportunities than his white counterparts. A bachelor’s degree raises the median wage of a black man by $10,000 per year, compared to a raise of $6,100 per year for a white man.

Allison also emphasized that the racial gap for both women and men gets smaller with higher and higher degrees. The employment gap between black and white men with bachelors degrees is only 5 percent. For women, it’s just 3 percent.

Even so, African Americans are much less likely to attain higher education degrees than whites, even though such degrees are becoming more and more valuable compared to high school degrees. According to Census Bureau data, blacks are almost twice as likely as whites to drop out of high school and are half as likely to get a post-baccalaureate degree.

As for solutions, Young Invincibles suggests early counseling to raise awareness of the benefits of college for African American students, more investment in community colleges and Pell Grants, and the implementation of alternatives to Affirmative Action for increasing diversity in states where Affirmative Action has been banned.

Abigail Bessler is an intern at ThinkProgress.

Doesn't matter. Because of UNC, now every single black person will have to have their education verified.

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Doesn't matter. Because of UNC, now every single black person will have to have their education verified.

I know. We are the only ones that has ever attempted to cheat when it comes to education.