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It is anti-gun owner. It makes a gun owner a criminal if they do not report a stolen gun.

If some steals something from you(anything) why should you become a criminal if you don't report it. I have had things stolen from me before that i never reported. Why should a gun be different?

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Always have been. Still waiting for the property damage in NH.

But there are several witnesses that say brown was going away with his hands up. Or are we just going to ignore that fact?

But more than a half-dozen unnamed black witnesses have provided testimony to a St. Louis County grand jury that largely supports Wilson’s account of events of Aug. 9, according to several people familiar with the investigation who spoke with The Washington Post.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/new-evidence-supports-officers-account-of-shooting-in-ferguson/2014/10/22/cf38c7b4-5964-11e4-bd61-346aee66ba29_story.html

The St. Louis Post-Dispatch late Tuesday night published Brown’s official county autopsy report, an analysis of which also suggests the 18-year-old may not have had his hands raised when he was fatally shot, as has been the contention of protesters who have demanded Wilson’s arrest.

Seven or eight African American eyewitnesses have provided testimony consistent with Wilson’s account, but none of them have spoken publicly out of fear for their safety, The Washington Post’s sources said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/new-evidence-supports-officers-account-of-shooting-in-ferguson/2014/10/22/cf38c7b4-5964-11e4-bd61-346aee66ba29_story.html

Marvin you need to keep us more up to date on your home town.

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But more than a half-dozen unnamed black witnesses have provided testimony to a St. Louis County grand jury that largely supports Wilson’s account of events of Aug. 9, according to several people familiar with the investigation who spoke with The Washington Post.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/new-evidence-supports-officers-account-of-shooting-in-ferguson/2014/10/22/cf38c7b4-5964-11e4-bd61-346aee66ba29_story.html

The St. Louis Post-Dispatch late Tuesday night published Brown’s official county autopsy report, an analysis of which also suggests the 18-year-old may not have had his hands raised when he was fatally shot, as has been the contention of protesters who have demanded Wilson’s arrest.

Seven or eight African American eyewitnesses have provided testimony consistent with Wilson’s account, but none of them have spoken publicly out of fear for their safety, The Washington Post’s sources said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/new-evidence-supports-officers-account-of-shooting-in-ferguson/2014/10/22/cf38c7b4-5964-11e4-bd61-346aee66ba29_story.html

Marvin you need to keep us more up to date on your home town.

“The family has not believed anything the police or this medical examiner has said,” Crump said. “They have their witnesses. We have seven witnesses that we know about that say the opposite.”

Crump also said one of the reasons the family and protesters were opposed to a grand jury proceeding was because it gives authorities too much control over what the public would learn about the case, as evidenced by the leaks.

“The family wanted a jury trial that was transparent, not one done in secrecy, not something that they believe is an attempt to sweep their son’s death under the rug,” he said.

Why? You seem to be more invested in it that I am.

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"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

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Surprise, surprise. There are people out there who are NOT persuaded by evidence. Who'd a thunk it?

More than a half-dozen unnamed black witnesses have provided testimony to a St. Louis County grand jury that supports Wilson’s account of events of Aug. 9, according to several people familiar with the investigation who spoke with The Washington Post.
Some of the physical evidence — including blood spatter analysis, shell casings and ballistics tests — also supports Wilson’s account of the shooting, the Post sources said, which cast Brown as an aggressor who threatened the officer’s life. The sources spoke on condition of anonymity because they are prohibited from publicly discussing the case…
Benjamin L. Crump, a lawyer for the Brown family, said Brown’s family and supporters will not be persuaded by the autopsy report or eyewitness statements that back Wilson’s account of the incident…
Exactly how high Brown’s hands were has been inconsistent in the accounts, and at least one witness said that after Brown was shot, he appeared to take a step toward Wilson. That witness said, however, Brown had his arms around his stomach before hitting the ground.
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“The family has not believed anything the police or this medical examiner has said,” Crump said. “They have their witnesses. We have seven witnesses that we know about that say the opposite.”

Crump also said one of the reasons the family and protesters were opposed to a grand jury proceeding was because it gives authorities too much control over what the public would learn about the case, as evidenced by the leaks.

“The family wanted a jury trial that was transparent, not one done in secrecy, not something that they believe is an attempt to sweep their son’s death under the rug,” he said.

Why? You seem to be more invested in it that I am.

Screw law and order, to heck with the grand jury. Throw him on trial and lets roll the dice. Really. Did a lawyer really say that. D bag out to be disbarred. Salem witch trials.

Surprise, surprise. There are people out there who are NOT persuaded by evidence. Who'd a thunk it?

Appears Mr Crump is just another race hustler looking for a dollar

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Independent autopsy report out. Brown was shot in the car. Hands not in air.

The evidence is starting to really mount that Wilson was telling the truth.

I wonder if Al and Jesse will apologize.

Independent Autopsy Reveals New Details About Michael Brown Shooting

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/10/190862-independent-autopsy-says-mike-brown-shot-close-range-means-officer-darren-wilson/

The medical examiner who conducted the independent autopsy of Ferguson man Michael Brown concluded that the report filed by Officer Darren Wilson, who shot and killed Brown on August 9, was accurate.

The initial report validates Wilson’s claims that the struggle began when Brown reached into the police SUV and attempted to wrest control of the officer’s gun, St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports.Medical examiner Dr. Michael Graham found that the testimony given that Brown had his hands up and was retreating from Wilson was incorrect. His findings concluded that Brown was shot twice at close-range, and examinations of the SUV indicate that those shots occurred inside the vehicle.

Graham said the examination indicated a shot traveled from the tip of Brown’s right thumb toward his wrist. The official report notes an absence of stippling, powder burns around a wound that indicate a shot fired at relatively short range.

Dr. Judy Melinek, a forensic pathologist in San Francisco, said the autopsy “supports the fact that this guy is reaching for the gun, if he has gunpowder particulate material in the wound.” She added, “If he has his hand near the gun when it goes off, he’s going for the officer’s gun.”

Both the official and independent autopsies backed up Wilson’s testimony that the struggle began in the car.

“Someone got an injury that tore off skin and left it on the car,” Graham said. “That fits with everything else that came out. There’s blood in the car, now skin on the car, that shows something happened right there.”

Shots fired outside the car corroborate Wilson’s account of the shooting, that Brown had been approaching or charging him as he shot.

[Melinek] said Brown was facing Wilson when Brown took a shot to the forehead, two shots to the chest and a shot to the upper right arm. The wound to the top of Brown’s head would indicate he was falling forward or in a lunging position toward the shooter; the shot was instantly fatal.

And that chant we’re all now familiar with, “Hands up, don’t shoot” – findings indicate that could not have been possible.

A sixth shot that hit the forearm traveled from the back of the arm to the inner arm, which means Brown’s palms could not have been facing Wilson, as some witnesses have said, Melinek said. That trajectory shows Brown probably was not taking a standard surrender position with arms above the shoulders and palms out when he was hit, she said.

The private autopsy requested by Brown’s family and conducted by “celebrity coroner” Dr. Michael M. Baden directly contradicts this independent autopsy, finding that none of the shots were fired at close-range.

The independent autopsy also found traces of marijuana in Brown’s system. Consultants say he had likely used the substance in the hours leading up to his death.

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Screw law and order, to heck with the grand jury. Throw him on trial and lets roll the dice. Really. Did a lawyer really say that. D bag out to be disbarred. Salem witch trials.

Appears Mr Crump is just another race hustler looking for a dollar

Because when it comes to the law and black people, we know it's always fair and square right? :rolleyes:

Independent autopsy report out. Brown was shot in the car. Hands not in air.

The evidence is starting to really mount that Wilson was telling the truth.

I wonder if Al and Jesse will apologize.

Independent Autopsy Reveals New Details About Michael Brown Shooting

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/10/190862-independent-autopsy-says-mike-brown-shot-close-range-means-officer-darren-wilson/

The medical examiner who conducted the independent autopsy of Ferguson man Michael Brown concluded that the report filed by Officer Darren Wilson, who shot and killed Brown on August 9, was accurate.

The initial report validates Wilson’s claims that the struggle began when Brown reached into the police SUV and attempted to wrest control of the officer’s gun, St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports.Medical examiner Dr. Michael Graham found that the testimony given that Brown had his hands up and was retreating from Wilson was incorrect. His findings concluded that Brown was shot twice at close-range, and examinations of the SUV indicate that those shots occurred inside the vehicle.

Graham said the examination indicated a shot traveled from the tip of Brown’s right thumb toward his wrist. The official report notes an absence of stippling, powder burns around a wound that indicate a shot fired at relatively short range.

Dr. Judy Melinek, a forensic pathologist in San Francisco, said the autopsy “supports the fact that this guy is reaching for the gun, if he has gunpowder particulate material in the wound.” She added, “If he has his hand near the gun when it goes off, he’s going for the officer’s gun.”

Both the official and independent autopsies backed up Wilson’s testimony that the struggle began in the car.

“Someone got an injury that tore off skin and left it on the car,” Graham said. “That fits with everything else that came out. There’s blood in the car, now skin on the car, that shows something happened right there.”

Shots fired outside the car corroborate Wilson’s account of the shooting, that Brown had been approaching or charging him as he shot.

[Melinek] said Brown was facing Wilson when Brown took a shot to the forehead, two shots to the chest and a shot to the upper right arm. The wound to the top of Brown’s head would indicate he was falling forward or in a lunging position toward the shooter; the shot was instantly fatal.

And that chant we’re all now familiar with, “Hands up, don’t shoot” – findings indicate that could not have been possible.

A sixth shot that hit the forearm traveled from the back of the arm to the inner arm, which means Brown’s palms could not have been facing Wilson, as some witnesses have said, Melinek said. That trajectory shows Brown probably was not taking a standard surrender position with arms above the shoulders and palms out when he was hit, she said.

The private autopsy requested by Brown’s family and conducted by “celebrity coroner” Dr. Michael M. Baden directly contradicts this independent autopsy, finding that none of the shots were fired at close-range.

The independent autopsy also found traces of marijuana in Brown’s system. Consultants say he had likely used the substance in the hours leading up to his death.

Were all ten shots from within the car?

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Because when it comes to the law and black people, we know it's always fair and square right? :rolleyes:

Were all ten shots from within the car?

Because when it comes to the law and black people, we know it's always fair and square right? [ :rolleyes:]

Fixed for you

Seriously. We are starting to see overwhelming evidence this huge man assaulted an officer and tried to take his gun. You still trying to find a straw to hang on to. The difference in us, is I would feel the same if both were white, both were black or any combination. If you recall I was on Brown's side until the Gentle giant minding his own business shot for walking in the street total BS was dis-proven .

I have told you this before. Rosa Parks was not the first lady to be arrested for not given up her seat. She was selected because she had good character and no criminal past. The black community is losing ground supporting Martin and Damn sure looks bad making such a scene over Brown, who it appears was a very justifiable homicide.

Protest on March and fly in Sharpton on the SC case . We will have no choice but to support you.

What's sad is Sharpton and other leaders are still calling for the Cops head on a platter.

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Because when it comes to the law and black people, we know it's always fair and square right? [ :rolleyes:]

Fixed for you

Seriously. We are starting to see overwhelming evidence this huge man assaulted an officer and tried to take his gun. You still trying to find a straw to hang on to. The difference in us, is I would feel the same if both were white, both were black or any combination. If you recall I was on Brown's side until the Gentle giant minding his own business shot for walking in the street total BS was dis-proven .

I have told you this before. Rosa Parks was not the first lady to be arrested for not given up her seat. She was selected because she had good character and no criminal past. The black community is losing ground supporting Martin and Damn sure looks bad making such a scene over Brown, who it appears was a very justifiable homicide.

Protest on March and fly in Sharpton on the SC case . We will have no choice but to support you.

What's sad is Sharpton and other leaders are still calling for the Cops head on a platter.

No, I'm pointing out the flaws in your logic.

I asked was he shot 10 times from inside the car. If he grabbed him or if he hit Wilson and was shot first from inside,that would make sense. I'm not disputing the first shot, I'm asking about the other 9.

Second, once again where is the picture that he was beaten almost to death? Why were fake photos and fake medical reports circulated around? If this is so cut and dry, what's with all the hiding?

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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No, I'm pointing out the flaws in your logic.

I asked was he shot 10 times from inside the car. If he grabbed him or if he hit Wilson and was shot first from inside,that would make sense. I'm not disputing the first shot, I'm asking about the other 9.

Second, once again where is the picture that he was beaten almost to death? Why were fake photos and fake medical reports circulated around? If this is so cut and dry, what's with all the hiding?

Once again Beaten almost to death ?

Also if you tried to take a cops gun away after beating him, I don't care where the next shots are fired from, if I am the cop you are going to get zero chance to get near me again.

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Once again Beaten almost to death ?

Also if you tried to take a cops gun away after beating him, I don't care where the next shots are fired from, if I am the cop you are going to get zero chance to get near me again.

Where is the evidence he was beaten to death? Where's the photos or reports? Have you seen them?

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Where is the evidence he was beaten to death? Where's the photos or reports? Have you seen them?

I have no clue what you are talking about, Beaten to Death ?

I said he was beaten, as for Death if a 6'4' 300 lb man is trying to get your gun, I would suspect the though of death is going thru your mind.

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It was an assassination attempt by the thug pure and simple. Shoot the officer with his own gun . Become a big man in the hood .

If more citizens were armed, criminals would think twice about attacking them, Detroit Police Chief James Craig

Florida currently has more concealed-carry permit holders than any other state, with 1,269,021 issued as of May 14, 2014

The liberal elite ... know that the people simply cannot be trusted; that they are incapable of just and fair self-government; that left to their own devices, their society will be racist, sexist, homophobic, and inequitable -- and the liberal elite know how to fix things. They are going to help us live the good and just life, even if they have to lie to us and force us to do it. And they detest those who stand in their way."
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It was an assassination attempt by the thug pure and simple. Shoot the officer with his own gun . Become a big man in the hood .

I was skeptical at first, because we all know Police do stupid stuff to people regardless of color. White people get shot frequenlty too , it's just that we don't get front page news coverage and people don't burn cities down.

However it is becoming clear that Wilson's account is fairly accurate. However that is not slowing the rhetoric and calls for prosecution. I would love to say I am surprised, but I am not.

If it went down like it is starting to look like it went down, yes the man deserved to die.

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