Several U of I students attacked by roving gang near Champaign campus, police say

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There is no generalization here marvin. Just in your mind. That story in louisville

Trial to begin in racially motivated mob attack in Louisville

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From WLKY.com…

Must be a generalization also ... Where is holder on this story.... I forgot the term cracker just a term of endearment. Just move along nothing to see here.

In just a matter of weeks, a man beaten and robbed in an area park will come face to face with one of the men he says attacked him.

According to police, the suspect was a juvenile at the time. But, the courts said Brejon Ford will now be tried as an adult when he goes to trial Sept. 9.

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It was at Okolona Park on April 12, 2013, when he went for a walk. He said the park was empty around 5 that evening when a group of young, black men were making their way to him.

“They were yelling ‘honky’ and ‘white boy,’ ‘cracker’ and ‘white trash,'” said Rountree.

He was beaten and knocked unconscious; doctors later discovered bleeding on the brain. The group, Rountree said, took his two cellphones and the $22 he had in his pocket.

“I believe they might have thought I looked like I was an easy target because I’m white, because they were calling me racial names,” said Rountree.

That bleeding on the brain ... sounds like attempted murder...

2 others called you out about it. So, it's not just me. And seeing that NB is calling it out, that should tell you something.

Personally I think the whole idea of baiting is stupidity. How can one post be baiting but another not be. Almost every thread started here is started to express a view point that is contrary to some other members view points, and is designed to start a debate.

Obvious this thread is bating, is it not. Not to point a finger at LIB, all the threads you start about some black guy arrested for this or that are also baiting. By the same token almost every thread I have ever started here, that is not a goof off thread is also a bating thread. Same goes for the deniers who start threads defending Obama or threads started by the RWNJ's attacking him.

Show me 3 consecutive threads that are not baiting.

That is why when a thread is shut down for bating, in my eye's it is a personal reaction by a mod to a subject they really don't like. That having been said, I would be cool if it was shut down for stupidity, but let's jsut be honest. If you shut down every baiting post the whole forum would have to be torched.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/518739-john-grisham-apologizes-for-remarks-on-child-porn/

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/518691-elizabeth-pena-co-star-of-jacobs-ladder-and-la-bamba-dies-at-55/

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/518543-cops-boy-10-kills-woman-90-for-yelling-at-him/

There you go.

A lot of times we post to get a reaction and a discussion going. Some things are going to get heated because of certain views. I think some threads should get shut down because there's a difference between satire and wit, and being flat out hateful and disgusting.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

2 others called you out about it. So, it's not just me. And seeing that NB is calling it out, that should tell you something.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/518739-john-grisham-apologizes-for-remarks-on-child-porn/

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/518691-elizabeth-pena-co-star-of-jacobs-ladder-and-la-bamba-dies-at-55/

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/518543-cops-boy-10-kills-woman-90-for-yelling-at-him/

There you go.

A lot of times we post to get a reaction and a discussion going. Some things are going to get heated because of certain views. I think some threads should get shut down because there's a difference between satire and wit, and being flat out hateful and disgusting.

A thread getting shut down for hate and or for being disgusting is totally different than for being shut down for baiting. Almost all threads are baiting.

Pointing out bias and dogma on all sides is what us middle of the road "buttcrack" people do

Edited October 19, 2014 by The Nature Boy

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I'm told if I brought up race it's baiting. Why is it allowed?

I think it's reasonable to ask what the motive is in posting stories like this. What's the intent?

Teen violence isn't exactly an earth-shattering revelation after all.

Edited October 19, 2014 by Hail Ming!

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I think it's reasonable to ask what the motive is in posting stories like this. What's the intent?

Teen violence isn't exactly an earth-shattering revelation after all.

The intent is to show how violent black teens are in comparison to white teens. This is why when there's a story that involves white on white violence, the comments from the same people that watch this like a hawk are either non existent or worse, they try to defend it. Look at the White Riot thread. The same person talking here about black kids hunting polar bears is not making the same comments about single parents and no respect because they're white children. For them, it's of no interest or there's a good reason for it. Like the Penn sniper, or the guy who pointed a gun at someone, there's always a good reason that explains it, even when there's not.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

I think it's reasonable to ask what the motive is in posting stories like this. What's the intent?

Teen violence isn't exactly an earth-shattering revelation after all.

The exact same thing can be said about gun deaths. Yet some here are all over reporting those stories.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

The intent is to show how violent black teens are in comparison to white teens. This is why when there's a story that involves white on white violence, the comments from the same people that watch this like a hawk are either non existent or worse, they try to defend it. Look at the White Riot thread. The same person talking here about black kids hunting polar bears is not making the same comments about single parents and no respect because they're white children. For them, it's of no interest or there's a good reason for it. Like the Penn sniper, or the guy who pointed a gun at someone, there's always a good reason that explains it, even when there's not.

There are always going to be elements , but I think to be fair you have to look at trends. This kind of outburst by whites does not garner much attention because it is fairly rare, does not last more than a few hours generally. Young blacks commit such a disproportionate amount of crime, compared to their % of the population of course it is talked about more.

The problem lies when you use words like all.

Edited October 20, 2014 by The Nature Boy

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There are always going to be elements , but I think to be fair you have to look at trends. This kind of outburst by whites does not garner much attention because it is fairly rare, does not last more than a few hours generally. Young blacks commit such a disproportionate amount of crime, compared to their % of the population of course it is talked about more.

The problem lies when you use words like all.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/353485/theres-no-such-thing-black-black-crime-patrick-brennan

Nor are African-Americans especially criminal. If they were, you would still see high rates of crime among blacks, even as the nation sees a historic decline in criminal offenses. Instead, crime rates among African-Americans, and black youth in particular, have taken

a sharp drop

. In Washington, D.C., for example, fewer than 10 percent of black youth are in a gang, have sold drugs, have carried a gun, or have stolen more than $100 in goods.

Overall, figures from a variety of institutions—including the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Bureau of Justice Statistics—show that among black youth, rates of robbery and serious property offenses are at their

lowest rates in 40 years

, as are rates of violent crime and victimization. And while it’s true that young black men are a disproportionate share of the nation’s murder victims, it’s hard to disentangle this from the stew of hyper-segregation (often a result of deliberate policies), entrenched poverty, and nonexistent economic opportunities that characterizes a substantial number of black communities.

And here's the funny thing. You said that because black crime is so "routine" we have to talk about it all the time, but when the opposite happens, it's so rare that we don't talk about it? Does that make sense? We harp on routine, but ignore what's considered rare? But it's not really rare. White crime happens, but it's not focused on because it's rare, it's ignored because folks want to believe it's them, and not us.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/353485/theres-no-such-thing-black-black-crime-patrick-brennan

Nor are African-Americans especially criminal. If they were, you would still see high rates of crime among blacks, even as the nation sees a historic decline in criminal offenses. Instead, crime rates among African-Americans, and black youth in particular, have taken

a sharp drop

. In Washington, D.C., for example, fewer than 10 percent of black youth are in a gang, have sold drugs, have carried a gun, or have stolen more than $100 in goods.

Overall, figures from a variety of institutions—including the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Bureau of Justice Statistics—show that among black youth, rates of robbery and serious property offenses are at their

lowest rates in 40 years

, as are rates of violent crime and victimization. And while it’s true that young black men are a disproportionate share of the nation’s murder victims, it’s hard to disentangle this from the stew of hyper-segregation (often a result of deliberate policies), entrenched poverty, and nonexistent economic opportunities that characterizes a substantial number of black communities.

And here's the funny thing. You said that because black crime is so "routine" we have to talk about it all the time, but when the opposite happens, it's so rare that we don't talk about it? Does that make sense? We harp on routine, but ignore what's considered rare? But it's not really rare. White crime happens, but it's not focused on because it's rare, it's ignored because folks want to believe it's them, and not us.

Awesome it's dropping and we are talking about. See that's a good thing right. I am all about focusing on the positive. Now if we could just stop black leaders from deifying criminals like Michael Brown, instead of using him as an example of what you don't want your life to turn into... we could turn millions

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Awesome it's dropping and we are talking about. See that's a good thing right. I am all about focusing on the positive. Now if we could just stop black leaders from deifying criminals like Michael Brown, instead of using him as an example of what you don't want your life to turn into... we could turn millions

They'll stop when folks stop doing the same thing for criminals like George Zimmerman as well. It goes both ways. Or every time a black youth is killed stop saying, well he had to do something to deserve his death.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The exact same thing can be said about gun deaths. Yet some here are all over reporting those stories.

That's an issue that's fairly unique to the united states, at least on the level at which it occurs. So no, not really the same.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

That's an issue that's fairly unique to the united states, at least on the level at which it occurs. So no, not really the same.

Nice try. But you're wrong. We're not discussing where gun crime or race are most prevalent, we're discussing how people like to bring up issues and make something out of them. As in here in CEHST.

Some like to focus on race, and others on guns. Neither really deserve the attention they garner, but both inflame folks, therefore become common subjects.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Nice try. But you're wrong. We're not discussing where gun crime or race are most prevalent, we're discussing how people like to bring up issues and make something out of them. As in here in CEHST.

Some like to focus on race, and others on guns. Neither really deserve the attention they garner, but both inflame folks, therefore become common subjects.

I'm not wrong, you just dont agree and thats fine.

I think that some threads are posted here with a specific target in mind. By target I mean specific posters that they are intended to antagonise.

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I'm not wrong, you just dont agree and thats fine.

I think that some threads are posted here with a specific target in mind. By target I mean specific posters that they are intended to antagonise.

So what will your anti - 2nd article of the day be today.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

I'm not wrong, you just dont agree and thats fine.

I think that some threads are posted here with a specific target(S) in mind. By target I mean specific posters that they are intended to antagonise.

Yes, and the same happens with both race issues and anti-gun issues.

It's all good for discussing, until it turns personal...

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Yes, and the same happens with both race issues and anti-gun issues.

It's all good for discussing, until it turns personal...

Are you really at the level of editing others quoted posts, does that honestly not strike you as being just a little bit childish?