Supreme Court allows Texas voter ID law for now

[Teddy B 17,252]

Not applauding this to make fun of Teddy, but I don't care who this was said about. That's VJ gold right there. I can see Drill Sergeants saying that to recruits and it being in the movies.

I guess Drill Sergeants are still allowed to criticize recruits.

Of course you would have to explain to a large swath 0f Democratic voters what a synapse is .

I was thinking the same thing about drill sergeants.

Edited October 22, 2014 by Teddy B

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I was thinking the same thing about drill sergeants.

I learned more and took away more from mine than probably any male role model in my life. Still keep in contact with him to this day

[JohnR! 5,495]

And this is precisely what Rick Perry is doing. Spending money the state does not have on unwarranted causes, instead of actually working on the issues he ran on. Form the outside it would seem that everything is hunky dory in Texas, where reality suggests otherwise. Either that or he ran on lies about high unemployment, health care issues and other similar fallacies.

I used to have 2010 Ford Edge that ran just fine, but decided to upgrade to a new 2013 model for no particular reason. It had low miles and ran fine and we could have functioned without it. But it was OUR money and we chose to spend it how we saw fit. Imagine that?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I find it mind bending ironic that the only real argument the leftanistas can come up with is that that it is unneeded Govt spending. As if they ever met a Govt spending program they did not love.

Free Phone-No problem

Free Health Care-No problem

Free Food- No problem

Free Housing-No Problem

Don't work/Get a check-No problem

Free Day Care-No problem

Free ID from an agency already set up to make them, to a handful of people that may not already have them--- Out of control spending. We must stop this program

[UncleBeer 244]

This is not a 50/50 nation, it's more of a 53/47 nation, and one percentage point equals millions of votes in a national election, thousands in a statewide election

Oh good: polls, polling and numbers. Turns out 70% of Americans are in favor of a requirement to provide ID in order to vote. 'Course this would never get past King O'bama (who seems to be on the wrong side of public opinion on every major issue) or the DOJ (which insists that black people are "less sophisticated" to the point of being incompetent to provide themselves with ID).

Tell me: why can't the public have what it wants? Hmmmm?

[Teddy B 17,252]

Oh good: polls, polling and numbers. Turns out 70% of Americans are in favor of a requirement to provide ID in order to vote. 'Course this would never get past King O'bama (who seems to be on the wrong side of public opinion on every major issue) or the DOJ (which insists that black people are "less sophisticated" to the point of being incompetent to provide themselves with ID).

Tell me: why can't the public have what it wants? Hmmmm?

Of course the public can have what it wants. Put it to a vote and get it done.

[JohnR! 5,495]

The number of people who actually support picture ID for voting is closer to zero.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/11/upshot/vote-fraud-is-rare-but-myth-is-widespread.html?_r=0&abt=0002&abg=0

Is vote fraud common in American politics? Not according to United States District Judge Lynn Adelman, who examined the evidence from Wisconsin and ruled in late April that “virtually no voter impersonation occurs” in the state and that “no evidence suggests that voter-impersonation fraud will become a problem at any time in the foreseeable future.”

Strikingly, however, a Marquette Law School poll conducted in Wisconsin just a few weeks later showed that many voters there believed voter impersonation and other kinds of vote fraud were widespread — the likely result of a yearslong campaign by conservative groups to raise concerns about the practice. Thirty-nine percent of Wisconsin voters believe that vote fraud affects a few thousand votes or more each election. One in five believe that this level of fraud exists for each of the three types of fraud that individuals could commit: in-person voter impersonation, submitting absentee ballots in someone else’s name, and voting by people who are not citizens or Wisconsin residents.

Belief in voter impersonation is strongest among Republicans, echoing claims made by elites in their party. Thirty-six percent of Republicans think voter impersonation affects a few thousand or more votes, compared with 20 percent of independents and just 7 percent of Democrats.

By contrast, beliefs about the prevalence of fraud by election officials show far less of a partisan skew, with 16 percent of Republicans, 21 percent of independents and 14 percent of Democrats (and 17 percent of Wisconsin voters over all) thinking that this affects a few thousand votes or more each election.

It’s important to be clear that there is no evidence of vote fraud at these levels. Judge Adelman’s conclusion in the Wisconsin case echoes previous findings that voter fraud is exceptionally rare across the country. The New York Times reported in 2007, for instance, that a five-year investigation by the Bush administration “turned up virtually no evidence of any organized effort to skew federal elections.” Even after this intensive search, the Rutgers political scientist Lorraine Minnite showed in her book “The Myth of Voter Fraud” that prosecutions for migratory bird law violations were still far more common than election fraud during the 2005 fiscal year.

As my Dartmouth colleague Kyle Dropp pointed out, these findings are noteworthy because previous polls have typically asked about whether voter fraud is a major problem, minor problem or not a problem — wording that blurs the distinction between people’s objections to the practice and their beliefs about its prevalence. (Fox asked how likely “widespread voter fraud” would be before the 2008 election, but even that question left the exact prevalence of the practice undefined.)

At this point, though, we can safely classify widespread voter fraud as a misperception — and one that is far more prevalent than the practice itself.

Of course the public can have what it wants. Put it to a vote and get it done.

[UncleBeer 244]

The number of people who actually support picture ID for voting is closer to zero.

The linked story says no such thing.

[Teddy B 17,252]

The number of people who actually support picture ID for voting is closer to zero.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/11/upshot/vote-fraud-is-rare-but-myth-is-widespread.html?_r=0&abt=0002&abg=0

Is vote fraud common in American politics? Not according to United States District Judge Lynn Adelman, who examined the evidence from Wisconsin and ruled in late April that “virtually no voter impersonation occurs” in the state and that “no evidence suggests that voter-impersonation fraud will become a problem at any time in the foreseeable future.”

Belief in voter impersonation is strongest among Republicans, echoing claims made by elites in their party. Thirty-six percent of Republicans think voter impersonation affects a few thousand or more votes, compared with 20 percent of independents and just 7 percent of Democrats.

By contrast, beliefs about the prevalence of fraud by election officials show far less of a partisan skew, with 16 percent of Republicans, 21 percent of independents and 14 percent of Democrats (and 17 percent of Wisconsin voters over all) thinking that this affects a few thousand votes or more each election.

It’s important to be clear that there is no evidence of vote fraud at these levels. Judge Adelman’s conclusion in the Wisconsin case echoes previous findings that voter fraud is exceptionally rare across the country. The New York Times reported in 2007, for instance, that a five-year investigation by the Bush administration “turned up virtually no evidence of any organized effort to skew federal elections.” Even after this intensive search, the Rutgers political scientist Lorraine Minnite showed in her book “The Myth of Voter Fraud” that prosecutions for migratory bird law violations were still far more common than election fraud during the 2005 fiscal year.

Move along, nothing to see here. You can hit them over the head with a bat and they'll still believe voter fraud is a major problem in the US.

Without voter fraud as a scapegoat, Republicans have no one else to blame for their decline but themselves.

[SMOKE 1,426]

Move along, nothing to see here. You can hit them over the head with a bat and they'll still believe voter fraud is a major problem in the US.

Without voter fraud as a scapegoat, Republicans have no one else to blame for their decline but themselves.

would that be the same decline that has the republicans taking control of the senate in a couple weeks?

[Teddy B 17,252]

would that be the same decline that has the republicans taking control of the senate in a couple weeks?

Keep the faith Smoke!!

[spookyturtle 9,466]

I find it mind bending ironic that the only real argument the leftanistas can come up with is that that it is unneeded Govt spending. As if they ever met a Govt spending program they did not love.

Free Phone-No problem

Free Health Care-No problem

Free Food- No problem

Free Housing-No Problem

Don't work/Get a check-No problem

Free Day Care-No problem

Free ID from an agency already set up to make them, to a handful of people that may not already have them--- Out of control spending. We must stop this program

Assault weapons kill 200, handguns kill 10,000, ban assault weapons! Pitbull's attack 100's, poodle bites on person, ban poodles!!

[SMOKE 1,426]

Keep the faith Smoke!!

I do have faith

[JohnR! 5,495]

Which indicates that voter fraud is just really a myth. Either that or only the GOP is benefiting from it...

would that be the same decline that has the republicans taking control of the senate in a couple weeks?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Move along, nothing to see here. You can hit them over the head with a bat and they'll still believe voter fraud is a major problem in the US.

Without voter fraud as a scapegoat, Republicans have no one else to blame for their decline but themselves.

Ebola is not a Major problem, yet we are spending millions.