Supreme Court allows Texas voter ID law for now

[UncleBeer 244]

But Uncle Beer has stepped up his game on reporting to help take up the slack.

One more time for your benefit: For those who gratuitously break their TOS promises at my expense, I won't hesitate to report them. I shouldn't even have to, but not everyone lives lives of integrity.

Will you go on whimpering forever, turtle?

[Karee 4,190]

Helping Marvin work thru his anger against whitey issues keeps me busy

[spookyturtle 9,466]

One more time for your benefit: For those who gratuitously break their TOS promises at my expense, I won't hesitate to report them. I shouldn't even have to, but not everyone lives lives of integrity.

Will you go on whimpering forever, turtle?

You and integrity. Now THAT's an oxymoron! better check with the mods and see if that's a violation.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

We pretty much have the basis for that now with social security cards. Why not just make those photo IDs?

Cuz many non-citizens can get a SS card. Unless they issued a better quality SS card, with a blurb on it that one was allowed to vote. Heck, add a blurb allowing one to work and skip the EAD card. It's a three-fer!!

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

I'm ok with an ID card for voting, as long as EVERYONE who is legal to vote gets one and no one is left out.

That's a personal responsibility, isn't it? Requires one to be proactive. Much like a DL or a SS card or an ATM card.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Cuz many non-citizens can get a SS card. Unless they issued a better quality SS card, with a blurb on it that one was allowed to vote. Heck, add a blurb allowing one to work and skip the EAD card. It's a three-fer!!

Lot's of illegals have fake SS cards too.

[UncleBeer 244]

You and integrity. Now THAT's an oxymoron! better check with the mods and see if that's a violation.

It's a whimpering marathon, eh? Guess there's no end in sight...

[spookyturtle 9,466]

It's a whimpering marathon, eh? Guess there's no end in sight...

No, it's an Obama marathon, and your leading the pack.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

Are those the ones she personally soaked in the blood of Christopher Stevens?

That should be recorded as THE most tasteless question of 2014. Bet you'd feel differently if he was your family member.

SMH

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

What if one does not possess their birth certificate?

Make them the president??

[UncleBeer 244]

That should be recorded as THE most tasteless question of 2014. Bet you'd feel differently if he was your family member.

SMH

Sheesh; thanks for the reminder of why I put him on 'ignore'.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

That should be recorded as THE most tasteless question of 2014. Bet you'd feel differently if he was your family member.

SMH

Yes Dave, there was no small amount of irony in there but don't let me stop you from ignoring that and being offended for the sake of it.

[UncleBeer 244]

Well, this adds some context as to why the left wants voter ID laws quashed; according to a DOJ 'expert witness', it's because blacks are "less sophisticated". Remember: this 'expert testimony' was paid for with taxpayer dollars and represents the view of the administration.

Some excerpts of his testimony:

When asked if terminating the ability to register to vote on the day that someone casts a ballot impacts blacks disproportionately, Stewart testified in court that it did. Stewart:

It's also the case that -- well, yes, so it would, empirically more likely affect African Americans. Also, understanding within political science, that people who register to vote the closer and closer one gets to Election Day

tend to be less sophisticated voters

, tend to be less educated voters, tend to be voters who are

less attuned to public affairs

. That also tells me from the literature of political science that there are likely to be people who will end up not registering and not voting.

People who correspond to those factors tend to be African Americans

, and, therefore, that's another vehicle through which African Americans would be disproportionately affected by this law.

When asked if ending the ability to register to vote at the same time one casts a ballot would harm blacks more, Stewart testified:

As I said before, this is particularly a mechanism and a time that's well situated for less sophisticated voters, and, therefore, it's less likely to imagine that these voters would --

can figure out

or would avail themselves of other forms of registering and voting.

Stewart was also asked, “and you are saying that unsophisticated voters have more trouble figuring out what the rules and regulations are for voting. Is that your testimony?

Stewart: People who have lower education and who have less – that

pay less attention to public affairs will have greater problems figuring out how to vote, yes

.

Q. Okay. So your testimony is that African Americans are less sophisticated than white voters; is that right?

Stewart

: My understanding is that African Americans have lower levels of education in North Carolina, and I know from the public opinion work that African Americans report that they paid less attention to public affairs on average than white voters do probably because of the differences the education.

Q. Do you think they are less able to figure out what the rules are for when you have to register to vote and when you have to go vote?

Stewart

: The ability to figure these things out is related to one's education. As I said, that ability -- those average abilities are due to differences in things like education.

Q. Okay. So then you are saying that African American voters have less ability to figure out what the rules are for voting?

Stewart: I said African Americans have less education, which leads to an ability to navigate the rules of the game.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Voter ID laws are iffy because people shouldn't be required to carry ID and it's no coincidence that it's associated with totalitarian states. If you don't agree with that you can't say that you oppose 'big government' because you do not.

Speaking practically, photo ID for preventing voter fraud (which has been established isn't a significant problem that requires a solution) requires a system of ID that is itself fraud-proof. That isn't cheap to do. As others have said, the only way to do this is with a passport. However, there is no legal requirement to carry one. So what is the solution here? A law that requires ID that doesn't prevent fraud - what's the point?

[Teddy B 17,252]

self accountability = hating poor people. is that a leftie thing or your personal thing?

wait a minute. are you saying there is voter fraud? if you have to prove eligibility to obtain absentee ballots.....

You seem to be under the assumption that all poor people collect benefits, therefore they possess id's. That simply isn't true. To make a blanket statement that poor people should sacrifice more, drink less coke and eat fewer snickers to afford an id is asinine. It shows how ignorant you are as to what most poor people endure on a daily basis. It has nothing to do with self accountability for most poor people and it's not a leftie or personal thing, it's a human thing.

I've never claimed that voter fraud does not exist. The voter fraud that does take place is so miniscule, it does not pose the slightest of problems or threat to the integrity of our election system. Proving eligibility to obtain an absentee ballot would include what exactly?