Ebola outbreak: Second Texas health worker 'tests positive'

[decocker 7,198]

That's quite suggestive. No need to say what your doing with it there.

i'm waiting very patiently for uncle beer to tell me what i can do with my pooh bear jpeg. it's a titillating experience as you might imagine.

[JohnR! 5,495]

:rofl:

i'm waiting very patiently for uncle beer to tell me what i can do with my pooh bear jpeg. it's a titillating experience as you might imagine.

[Curmudgeon 227]

Discussion about the wisdom of forbidding incoming flights from Africa is nowhere near having fear of contracting it.

As for the rest of your post, I cannot discuss things with you logically as you have proven several times that is not an option with you.

But just know that some Americans are concerned, some with being infected: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/16/solon-ohio-ebola-school-closings/17343431/

And others with the intelligence of the administration that did not prevent the disease from entering via air travel.

Discussion on the wisdom doing things relies on those discussing it knowing what the risks/benefits are. Seemingly, that is not forthcoming, just a lot of tittle tattle. You and they can blame Obama all you want for the fact that a perfectly legal entry into the US also brought with it a person suffering from the disease, but it doesn't make that blame justified or relevant. It's neither. The fact is, no one is scared of catching the disease because no one really believes there is an actual crisis in the US. There is one in West Africa, should we spread our concern to our fellow human beings that are suffering and do something perhaps?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I just have to say it again: the paranoia around here is truly stunning.

[JohnR! 5,495]

The only explanation scientist have to offer is that we're facing an epidemic of ODS and Teabola in cyberspace. It destroys the brain...

I just have to say it again: the paranoia around here is truly stunning.

[Pooky 3,846]

The only explanation scientist have to offer is that we're facing an epidemic of ODS and Teabola in cyberspace. It destroys the brain...

Teabola ... Obola ... different sides of the same coin, and each side just as infantile as the other.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Discussion on the wisdom doing things relies on those discussing it knowing what the risks/benefits are. Seemingly, that is not forthcoming, just a lot of tittle tattle. You and they can blame Obama all you want for the fact that a perfectly legal entry into the US also brought with it a person suffering from the disease, but it doesn't make that blame justified or relevant. It's neither. The fact is, no one is scared of catching the disease because no one really believes there is an actual crisis in the US. There is one in West Africa, should we spread our concern to our fellow human beings that are suffering and do something perhaps?

So true. There is a crisis in West Africa and not here, and putting in some kind of temporary travel restriction form infected areas would be a good way to keep it that way. The notion put forth that it would hurt the relief effort is laughable. Of course you can make an exception for relief efforts, but make returning workers quarantine for a week or two.

Of course the US Navy and Air force can move relief efforts faster and quicker than commercial assets.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I just have to say it again: the paranoia around here is truly stunning.

Paranoia would be buying hazmats suits, barricading yourself in your house. Prudent common sense would be, having a healthy respect for this thing and taking steps to make sue it does not evolve into a crisis. I would say an infected patient flying around on a domestic flights is a big deal. Travel restrictions from infected countries is common sense.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Paranoia would be buying hazmats suits, barricading yourself in your house. Prudent common sense would be, having a healthy respect for this thing and taking steps to make sue it does not evolve into a crisis. I would say an infected patient flying around on a domestic flights is a big deal. Travel restrictions from infected countries is common sense.

Which is why they are in place. Unless with "restriction" you really mean "ban". If that's the case, then you should maybe consider the subject matter expertise on the issue.

Bottom line, there's no reason to panic.

[JohnR! 5,495]

It seems that blaming the administration is the only way some have to justify their irrational panic and allay the fear that has been spread around. The same handful of individuals who claim this administration brought Ebola into the US are the same who a few years ago blamed W for 9/11 and for bringing SARS into the US. The discourse hasn't changed much: close all doors and don't let anyone in. Worse still, they would gladly deny the American health workers who are risking their lives in Africa, entry back into their own country. Funny how that works, once one has a green card in hand.

On additional benefit to all the fear mongering at home - it helps deviate the focus of attention from Africa, where as you said yourself, the real crisis is. Any port in a storm...

Discussion on the wisdom doing things relies on those discussing it knowing what the risks/benefits are. Seemingly, that is not forthcoming, just a lot of tittle tattle. You and they can blame Obama all you want for the fact that a perfectly legal entry into the US also brought with it a person suffering from the disease, but it doesn't make that blame justified or relevant. It's neither. The fact is, no one is scared of catching the disease because no one really believes there is an actual crisis in the US. There is one in West Africa, should we spread our concern to our fellow human beings that are suffering and do something perhaps?

Edited October 17, 2014 by JohnR!

[UncleBeer 244]

It seems that blaming the administration is the only way some have to justify their irrational panic and allay the fear that has been spread around.

"DON'T PANIC" he shrieked.

The same handful of individuals who claim this administration brought Ebola into the US...

That's a blatant misrepresentation. Quote anyone here who's claimed that. They may not have personally "brought Ebola into the US", but they've certainly not only done nothing to prevent its import to our shores, they've brought sick folks here when there was no need to, and in the process recklessly and needlessly endangered the US population.

[TBoneTX 46,306]

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[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

The same handful of individuals who claim this administration brought Ebola into the US...

That's a blatant misrepresentation. Quote anyone here who's claimed that. They may not have personally "brought Ebola into the US", but they've certainly not only done nothing to prevent its import to our shores, they've brought sick folks here when there was no need to, and in the process recklessly and needlessly endangered the US population.

How about yourself via a hysterical opinion piece from the Washington Times? Right here in this thread. Just this morning. Memory not working?

It was only a matter of time.

President Obama, a short-term college professor and failed community organizer who became a mostly absentee state senator and then an all-but-invisible U.S. senator, has Petered out. Per the Peter Principle, he has risen to his level of incompetence — some would argue far beyond it.

The president — and the president alone — let Ebola into America. He could have made one phone call (even on Saturday, when playing his 200th round of golf as president) and said one sentence to protect all Americans from the usually fatal disease: “No one from West Africa gets into the country.”

Done. That single sentence would have kept Thomas Eric Duncan, a Liberian who had carried an Ebola sufferer back into her home after she was turned away at a hospital, out of Dallas. While he lied on an airport questionnaire about whether he had had contact with anyone suffering the disease, and while hospital workers blundered badly even though they knew he has been in Liberia, the bottom line is Duncan would not have been in America had the president banned visitors from Ebola-stricken countries. Simple.

Many African countries have instituted such bans, and most Americans think such a ban would be a good idea, according to a recent survey. But Team Obama and his band of incompetent minions argue that shutting off flights from affected countries would “harm” the economy. Absurd.

Mr. Obama’s stunning incompetence filters down to all who work for him (and in many cases, were hand-picked by him). His director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the incompetent Dr. Tom Frieden, has spent the last few weeks not — as one would expect — ramping up response to the deadly virus, but repeatedly saying there is virtually no threat to Americans.

Then, of course, Ebola landed in the U.S., first at Dulles airport, then DFW. Despite assurances, a nurse contracted the disease, although we were told health care professionals were following the strictest protocol.

On Wednesday, another nurse tested positive. While the CDC claims hospitals are ready for the crisis, the second nurse had flown on a commercial plane the day before she reported developing symptoms of infection. Now, another 132 people may have come into direct contact with the virus — and those people have no doubt had contact with hundreds of others.

Meanwhile, back at the White House, Team Obama is in full panic mode — but only for political reasons. Although the president flew to a fundraiser in Colorado on Sept. 12, 2012 — just hours after four Americans were slaughtered by terrorists — Mr. Obama on Wednesday suddenly canceled plans to attend two fundraisers. He hastily scheduled a meeting on Ebola.

That move followed another on Saturday, when The First Golfer, already in his limo preparing for yet another round of golf, delayed his outing so he could take a phone call from Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Burwell. The move was pure politics: He couldn’t very well take that call on the way to the course, and by staying at the White House, he was able to call in the photographers, who moved photos of him “working.”

http://www.washingto...petence-turns-/

[JohnR! 5,495]

And again, I can't help but think of the last flight of the Hindenburg...

How about yourself via a hysterical opinion piece from the Washington Times? Right here in this thread. Just this morning. Memory not working?

[UncleBeer 244]

And again, I can't help but think of the last flight of the Hindenburg...

How fortunate for me that I don't read his #######. Hooray for the ignore feature!