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Once you get stateside check out this link:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/09/health/ebola-patient-emory-atlanta/

It may be blocked in your country.

p.s. I would still support bringing the patient to the US if he/she happened to be your spouse or kid, even if you didn't.

It's cocktail time somewhere. Have a great evening!

Enlighten me, John. I would love to hear some positive news on this depressing subject. Of what magic potion do you speak?

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I am right here in the good ol' US of A.

That link makes oblique reference to those experimental vaccines that are apparently no longer available (ie: all limited stock has been used). That is why I am saying there is nothing we can do for these victims at present. i am afraid there is no need to transport the patients and risk others.

Also, even if those experimental vaccines were available, and they were proven effective, there is no reason why those vaccines could not be administered in the countries where the patients are located.

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There's actually a lot of options and discussions to be had in between "building a wall along the southern border" and "opening up the border"

Both are solutions born of ignorance no doubt

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ep·i·dem·ic

ˌepəˈdemik/

noun

  • 1.

    a widespread occurrence of an infectious disease in a community at a particular time.

Good thing Liberia and Sierra Leone aren't communities or we might have one of them thar ˌepəˈdemik thingies going on...

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There is a lot we can do here. Fortunately for any American patient you're wrong.

I respectfully disagree with you. They should be treated where they were infected. Why risk the spread?

If I were infected in Africa, I would STAY in Africa so I wouldn't put my family at risk. But that's just me.

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Pathetically, what is happening now is so very predictable. What? The hell ya say? The nurses haven't been trained? Well, that's their fault. It surely wouldn't be 0bola's fault now would it?

CDC head criticized for blaming nurse's Ebola infection on 'protocol breach'
Some healthcare experts have criticized the head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for saying that a "protocol breach" was responsible for the infection of a Dallas nurse with the Ebola virus, claming that the description scapegoats the nurse in a case that shows how unprepared nursing staffs are for dealing with a potential outbreak.
Texas officials announced Sunday that the female nurse had contracted the virus while assisting Thomas Eric Duncan, the first person diagnosed with Ebola in the United States, who died last week. The CDC confirmed the case Sunday afternoon, and Director Dr. Thomas Frieden called for an investigation as to how the nurse became infected.
However, some say the case shows how many hospitals are inadequately trained to handle the virus, which has killed more than 4,000 people during the latest outbreak in West Africa.
"You don't scapegoat and blame when you have a disease outbreak," Bonnie Castillo of National Nurses United told Reuters Sunday. "We have a system failure. That is what we have to correct."
"We haven't provided [caregivers] with a national training program. We haven't provided them with the necessary experts that have actually worked in hospitals with Ebola," said Dr. Gavin McGregor-Skinner of Penn State University, an expert in public health preparedness.
Texas and CDC officials say that the nurse was wearing the recommended personal protective gear for handling an Ebola patient, including a gown, gloves, mask, and eye shield. However, one expert told Reuters that gear only offers a minimum amount of protection, especially when the disease enters its final phases.
Sean Kaufman, president of an Atlanta-based firm that helps train hospital staff said that caregivers may need to add more layers of protection in the patient's final days, such as double gloves, a respirator, or even a full bodysuit.
"Doctors and nurses get lost in patient care. They do things that put themselves at risk because their lens is patient-driven," Kaufman told Reuters. "I suspect no one was watching to make sure the people who were taking care of the patients were taking care of themselves."
The name of the nurse has not been publicly released, but The Dallas Morning News reported that she was a 2010 graduate of Texas Christian University in Fort Worth. The paper also reported that she was in stable condition at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas, where she worked and where Duncan was treated.
On Sunday, Hazmat crews cleaned and disinfected the woman's apartment. KDFW reported that members of the 15-person crew took items out of the apartment and placed them in metal drums to be taken away.
The Morning News also reported that the woman owns a King Charles Spaniel dog. There was no sign that the dog had contracted the virus, but Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings said Sunday morning that officials had a "plan to take care of the pet." Dallas police reported that a worker in protective gear had entered the nurse's apartment Sunday evening to give the dog food and water.
Last week, a dog belonging to an Ebola-infected nurse was euthanized in Spain, causing a national outcry.
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Pathetically, what is happening now is so very predictable. What? The hell ya say? The nurses haven't been trained? Well, that's their fault. It surely wouldn't be 0bola's fault now would it?

Wait, didn't you say you didn't care either way about the CDC?

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"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

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Wait, didn't you say you didn't care either way about the CDC?

You know Marv, I would not characterize you as a common liberal. You're something a little different than that. Anything you can do to divert talking about the issue now confronting the people of America is what you do; not by design, simply by blind ignorance.Your brain works similar to a liberal brain in that you get stuck on defending your guy and can only see things that are not important. To suggest for you to go back and read my posts regarding the CDC would do no good, as you would not. Even if you did, you would see it as a duck when it's actually a chicken.

The CDC is a government facility that is not equipped or funded to handle an event like this. It's just that simple. Therefore, for your guy in Washington to allow infected people into the US was complete lunacy. A few idiots chose to put Americans at risk based upon an ideology rather than common sense. Having an expectation of our hospitals, and nurses and doctors to fix and overcome this will be 0bola's legacy. He will own it, and anyone of his pundits who supported it should and will be hung out to dry in the court of public opinion.

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You know Marv, I would not characterize you as a common liberal. You're something a little different than that. Anything you can do to divert talking about the issue now confronting the people of America is what you do; not by design, simply by blind ignorance.Your brain works similar to their brains in that you get stuck on defending your guy and cannot see or hear anything. You see, suggesting you to go back and read my posts regarding the CDC would do no good, as you would not. Even if you did, you would see it as a duck when it's actually a chicken.

The CDC is a government facility that is not equipped or funded to handle an event like this. It's just that simple. Therefore, for your guy in Washington to allow infected people into the US was complete lunacy. A few idiots chose to put Americans at risk based upon an ideology rather than common sense. Having an expectation of our hospitals, and nurses and doctors to fix and overcome this will be 0bola's legacy. He will own it, and anyone of his pundits who supported it should and will be hung out to dry in the court of public opinion.

I didn't divert from anything, I'm just asking if you agree or disagree with the link since you have declared, in less than 24 hours it would seem, that you don't care either way:

For the record, do not assume anything more from the link posted to the CDC was anything other than taking issue with a pointless discussion as to what is and what is not an epidemic. I neither agree nor disagree with the content of the article. Like most Americans i could care less what you call it. The point is that it's very dangerous, easily transferred to others, and has a high probability of killing anyone it infects.

I think you should talk to AJ about obfuscating attacks. Your attacks(or lack thereof) are not very effective since you seem to ramble incoherently. Maybe you should stick to making up anti-islamic words and posting articles that fit your narrative.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

President-Obama-jpg.jpg

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I think you should talk to AJ about obfuscating attacks. Your attacks(or lack thereof) are not very effective since you seem to ramble incoherently. Maybe you should stick to making up anti-islamic words and posting articles that fit your narrative.

Let me help you better understand the difference of blind support of 0bola and the perception of common sense America. Let me keep it short and simple so you can understand.

Your president has screwed up everything, yes everything he has touched or spoken about since he's been in office. His two terms in office will go down in American history for common sense people as a really bad and embarrassing mistake to vote for him. Not because he's black and his middle name is Hussein, but because his elevator is malfunctioning with an emotional focus on people who don't like and people who disagree with him. Kinda the same place you are right now.

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Let me help you better understand the difference of blind support of 0bola and the perception of common sense America. Let me keep it short and simple so you can understand.

Your president has screwed up everything, yes everything he has touched or spoken about since he's been in office. His two terms in office will go down in American history for common sense people as a really bad and embarrassing mistake to vote for him. Not because he's black and his middle name is Hussein, but because his elevator is malfunctioning with an emotional focus on people who don't like and people who disagree with him. Kinda the same place you are right now.

Unless you've renounced your citizenship, he's your president as well. How do people get around that? I'm an American, but the American President isn't MY President. Do you have any idea how silly you sound?

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

President-Obama-jpg.jpg

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Unless you've renounced your citizenship, he's your president as well. How do people get around that? I'm an American, but the American President isn't MY President. Do you have any idea how silly you sound?

My money is on the premise that you voted for the current president, and he did not, thereby establishing partial ownership.

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My money is on the premise that you voted for the current president, and he did not, thereby establishing partial ownership.

When I voted for Mccain in 2008, and Obama won, he was still my president. When I was a kid, I didn't say, since I didn't vote I can't claim a president. As a military member, we're taught to never disrespect the chain of command, and the POTUS is in it.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

President-Obama-jpg.jpg

Posted

is everybody dead yet?

omg.

Military vet and a straight shooter. His running mate, not so much...

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

President-Obama-jpg.jpg

 

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