2nd Ebola case confirmed in U.S.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Someone break out the tin foil. Quickly.

[LibCampFireClub 635]

CDC head says more health care workers could have Ebola, despite claiming ‘any hospital’ can handle virus

The head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warned Monday that other U.S. hospital workers may have Ebola after a Dallas nurse tested positive for the virus, as he vowed to "double down" on training for health care workers -- raising questions about whether he told the truth when he initially assured the public and Congress that U.S. hospitals are capable of treating Ebola patients.

Thomas Frieden, at a press briefing on Monday, said the CDC would be taking a number of steps including offering more training and outreach throughout the health care system. He said they need to "rethink" their approach to the virus.

"I feel awful that a health care worker became infected in the care of an Ebola patient," Frieden said.

But he urged the public to brace for more bad news.

"We need to consider the possibility that there could be additional cases, particularly among the health care workers who cared for" Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan, he said, adding: "We're concerned that there could be other infections in the coming days."

Frieden also voiced regret for initially describing the latest infection as a "protocol breach," which some interpreted as blaming the nurse. "I'm sorry if that was the impression given. That was certainly not my intention," he said.

Frieden vowed to implement an "immediate set of steps" to ensure that those caring for the infected nurse are safe.

But just two weeks ago, Frieden claimed that "virtually any hospital in the country that can do isolation can do isolation for Ebola."

The CDC director repeatedly has said U.S. hospitals know how to stop the spread of Ebola, even though it is difficult. He said in written testimony to a House foreign affairs subcommittee in August that: "We know how to stop Ebola with strict infection control practices which are already in widespread use in American hospitals, and by stopping it at the source in Africa."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/13/cdc-training-questioned-after-director-blames-nurse-ebola-infection-on-protocol/

[unsmiley 111]

A person is not repatriated for kicks and giggles. If they are repatriated for medical treatment, it is because the medical treatment is not available in the place they are currently residing. It may, or may not, interest you to know that the standard of care in an American hospital is a bit better than in a field hospital in West Africa. I don't begrudge any of these people taking advantage of the care they are entitled to and certainly don't think they have taken any unnecessary or stupid risks in allowing them to be repatriated. I can see the headlines now had their repatriation been refused. It don't bear thinking about really.

Sorry, you do not know what you are talking about. For the tenth time, there is NO KNOWN TREATMENT for Ebola infection. Does not matter whether you are in a top notch American hospital or in the poorest country on earth. Supportive care/IV fluids can be administered ANYWHERE without unnecessarily risking the lives of the uninfected and further spreading the virus. It is insane to repatriate those infected until there is something that can actually be done for these patients.

[Dakine10 5,452]

Sorry, you do not know what you are talking about. For the tenth time, there is NO KNOWN TREATMENT for Ebola infection. Does not matter whether you are in a top notch American hospital or in the poorest country on earth. Supportive care/IV fluids can be administered ANYWHERE without unnecessarily risking the lives of the uninfected and further spreading the virus. It is insane to repatriate those infected until there is something that can actually be done for these patients.

There is a recommended treatment, as you said supportive care. I think what you mean is there is no cure.

People who die from Ebola die from the secondary conditions like hypovolemic shock or organ failure. The prognosis for someone with those conditions is generally going to be better in an intensive care hospital in the USA than it is at a facility in a 3rd world country. I would agree it should be weighed against the risk of moving people.

In previous Ebola outbreaks, survival rates have increased as the epidemic progressed. Generally the supportive therapy becomes more effective as hospitals become better equipped to deal with it. That includes support from outside organizations. I would rather see resources used toward making hospitals and facilities in the region more effective than bringing people back here.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

There is a recommended treatment, as you said supportive care. I think what you mean is there is no cure.

People who die from Ebola die from the secondary conditions like hypovolemic shock or organ failure. The prognosis for someone with those conditions is generally going to be better in an intensive care hospital in the USA than it is at a facility in a 3rd world country. I would agree it should be weighed against the risk of moving people.

In previous Ebola outbreaks, survival rates have increased as the epidemic progressed. Generally the supportive therapy becomes more effective as hospitals become better equipped to deal with it. That includes support from outside organizations. I would rather see resources used toward making hospitals and facilities in the region more effective than bringing people back here.

Coincidentally, that is precisely what is happening.

[unsmiley 111]

There is a recommended treatment, as you said supportive care. I think what you mean is there is no cure.

People who die from Ebola die from the secondary conditions like hypovolemic shock or organ failure. The prognosis for someone with those conditions is generally going to be better in an intensive care hospital in the USA than it is at a facility in a 3rd world country. I would agree it should be weighed against the risk of moving people.

In previous Ebola outbreaks, survival rates have increased as the epidemic progressed. Generally the supportive therapy becomes more effective as hospitals become better equipped to deal with it. That includes support from outside organizations. I would rather see resources used toward making hospitals and facilities in the region more effective than bringing people back here.

Agreed.

[Dakine10 5,452]

Coincidentally, that is precisely what is happening.

People forget - it's not like this has never happened before. There have been Ebola outbreaks before. There is a effective strategy for dealing with it.

We've also had isolated cases in the US before and that is what US hospitals focus on. That's what we are most likely to see. Fortunately most hospitals in the US are ready to deal with isolated cases of infectious disease. It happens behind the scenes all the time.

[Karee 4,190]

I'm wondering when the first Ebola political ad is going to come out with Obama's photo next to a picture of the virus.

[LibCampFireClub 635]

I'm wondering when the first Ebola political ad is going to come out with Obama's photo next to a picture of the virus.

He walked himself into the corner as the cocky guy who had "hope and change." When it comes time to anti up, he's got nothing but blame and diversion. The bet comes 'round and one of his opponents plays a phony scandal. He must call, raise, or withdraw. He calls. Another opponent, and another, and another and so on, and so on, and so on. The endless wave for the body surfer in his speedo and and putter. He bet everything and lost everything. That's his legacy.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I'm wondering when the first Ebola political ad is going to come out with Obama's photo next to a picture of the virus.

You mean something like this?

[JohnR! 5,495]

This is cute though... One might expect something a tad more virulent.. (pun intended)

You mean something like this?

Edited October 14, 2014 by JohnR!

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

This is cute though...

Indeed. The similarities are striking.

[LibCampFireClub 635]

The strangle hold on the lib prez is not enough to bring back the lives of the American people he has harmed.

[JohnR! 5,495]

On a positive note, if it gets the discussion going in a light yet intelligent manner, it already represents an improvement over the noise and swill we have been getting from the misinformation militia.

Indeed. The similarities are striking.

Edited October 14, 2014 by JohnR!

[LibCampFireClub 635]

In truth, Ebola in Africa from which it reigns is about 50% fatal. A good president interested and engaged in his country would not have allowed his fellow Americans to be subjected to it.