2nd Ebola case confirmed in U.S.

[Dakine10 5,452]

The real issue here is that no matter what you call it, it's something we have to deal with.

Far more pressing than any other consideration is the question 'what are we going to do about it'. We've done well so far and we need to raise the bar once again, as we did in the past, during similar circumstances.

True. We are currently responding to it as a localized outbreak. We are also taking precautions to prevent the epidemic from spreading to other areas. We could get by without politicizing it or going off the deep end.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

What's political about it?

Nothing that is my point. I think blaming Obama is stupid and I think blaming Perry is stupid.

Yet somehow that makes me not middle of the road

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

Thank you Dave. I think we already covered what an epidemic is and where it is occurring. Somebody did ask the question.

In case your curious, the situation we currently have with Ebola in the USA is referred to as an outbreak. As the title says - 2nd case in the US.

Yeah, observation came in late, I didn't realize there were 5 more pages of rhetoric.

For the record, I'm not worried about ebola. Prolly won't be unless Dallas gets several more cases. Or until it pops up in my area.

That being said, there's a rumor at my daughter's school that some girl just returned from Africa recently. Here's hoping she wasn't infected...

[MyLittlePony 340]

Time to buy life insurance well who need life insurance lots of people will be dead soon.

[JohnR! 5,495]

If you have a family you should have life insurance, even if you're in good health. At minimum your policy should be enough to cover your mortgage, college expenses, estate taxes and all outstanding debt you have, including your funeral arrangements. In addition it might behoove you to ensure your family has enough left over to recover financially from the loss of income your death might represent.

Most employers offer life insurance at attractive rates as part of their benefit packages. It is never too late to get a new policy or revisit the existing one to make sure your family is taken care of in case of your early demise.

Time to buy life insurance well who need life insurance lots of people will be dead soon.

Edited October 13, 2014 by JohnR!

[LibCampFireClub 635]

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/family-reveals-identity-dallas-nurse-contracted-ebola-article-1.1972541

[Dakine10 5,452]

Yeah, observation came in late, I didn't realize there were 5 more pages of rhetoric.

For the record, I'm not worried about ebola. Prolly won't be unless Dallas gets several more cases. Or until it pops up in my area.

That being said, there's a rumor at my daughter's school that some girl just returned from Africa recently. Here's hoping she wasn't infected...

In the US, more kids have died so far from Enterovirus D68 than Ebola. Including one little guy that went to bed with no symptoms and never woke up. I worry about that more when I drop my kids off at school.

I also saw they had diagnosed the first cases of avian flu (in humans) in China this year. That's something where an outbreak on the other side of the world should make everyone concerned.

[LibCampFireClub 635]

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/family-reveals-identity-dallas-nurse-contracted-ebola-article-1.1972541

https://gma.yahoo.com/dallas-nurse-ebola-identified-171200707--abc-news-health.html

[JohnR! 5,495]

Next thing you know, they'll be calling to closing the border to all flights from China & Asia.

In the US, more kids have died so far from Enterovirus D68 than Ebola. Including one little guy that went to bed with no symptoms and never woke up. I worry about that more when I drop my kids off at school.

I also saw they had diagnosed the first cases of avian flu (in humans) in China this year. That's something where an outbreak on the other side of the world should make everyone concerned.

[Curmudgeon 227]

Enlighten me, John. I would love to hear some positive news on this depressing subject. Of what magic potion do you speak?

A person is not repatriated for kicks and giggles. If they are repatriated for medical treatment, it is because the medical treatment is not available in the place they are currently residing. It may, or may not, interest you to know that the standard of care in an American hospital is a bit better than in a field hospital in West Africa. I don't begrudge any of these people taking advantage of the care they are entitled to and certainly don't think they have taken any unnecessary or stupid risks in allowing them to be repatriated. I can see the headlines now had their repatriation been refused. It don't bear thinking about really.

[LibCampFireClub 635]

Common sense still alive in the USA despite amateur hour.

75% of Doctors Support Travel Ban from West Africa According to SERMO Poll

Physicians are concerned about the CDC's and Department of Homeland Security's Ability to Track and Screen Ebola Patients within the United States

BOSTON, Oct. 13, 2014 /PRNewswire/ -- SERMO, the leading social network of fully verified, licensed physicians in the U.S., announced today the results of recent polling of the SERMO physician community about the Ebola epidemic and its implications for the United States.

When asked if they believe all travel from West Africa should be halted to the US, 75% of the respondents chose "Yes." The poll questions also highlight concerns many physicians have about the U.S. preparedness level of the healthcare system to handle Ebola.

The SERMO community of over 270,000 doctors is actively discussing the latest developments in the Ebola crisis on their Infectious Disease Hub. The core issue is preparedness from the perspective of an already stressed frontline medical infrastructure. Public health preparedness is one side of the story, and some question CDC's preparedness.

But from the perspective of medical preparedness, the country's medical community has been clear: they do not feel prepared, and they need the federal government to listen to that concern. Dallas is an example, but there will likely be others unless a change in screening protocols is adopted that go beyond simply checking temperatures at a few Ports of Entry. Some feel a better solution is to deny granting access to non-US citizens from the Ebola-affected areas of Africa through the State Department's Visa granting process until true epidemic containment has been achieved.

Over 3000 doctors joined the conversation, and 1,300 of our SERMO physicians participated in our poll and provided some eyebrow-raising opinions:

• When asked if they feel the Department of Homeland Security is not adequately screening inbound passengers from Ebola-affected areas, 91% said "No."

• When asked if they believe the US Department of State is adequately sharing information regarding the Visa granting process and the specific location of where travelers are arriving from in West Africa, 90% answered "No."

• When asked if they believe the experience of Dallas will significantly alter our medical preparedness writ large in America, 56% responded "No."

• In a prior poll focusing on preparedness and the logic of focusing on contact tracing (tracking down everyone a patient has had contact with), over 370 physicians spoke up:

• When asked how confident they are in the CDC's ability to effectively trace back contacts Ebola patients might have had with other people, 57% did not feel confident (37% said "not very confident" and another 20% said "not confident at all").
• When asked if they had been in conversation about preparedness protocols regarding Ebola, 32% said "no one" and 31% said they'd "self-educated to prepare."

• When asked where they are getting their guidance and reliable information regarding Ebola, 58% cited the CDC and 52% cited their peers on SERMO.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/75-doctors-support-travel-ban-151500745.html

Edited October 13, 2014 by ExExpat

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Nothing that is my point. I think blaming Obama is stupid and I think blaming Perry is stupid.

Yet somehow that makes me not middle of the road

No, that's not what makes you not middle of the road. It's some of the other stuff that is posted here under your name - and where it comes from - that makes your middle of the road claim rather questionable.

Common sense still alive in the USA despite amateur hour.

Yes, twitter polls and the like are indeed amateur hour.

[LibCampFireClub 635]

Darn. Blame it on Rick Perry instead of Bush. How could I have not seen this mis direction from the loony left coming

This article is well-written and shows why the case of Ebola is being mis-handled by a big government organization. That is what big-government does best.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/518277-cdc-multitasking-hurts-ebola-fight-column/?p=7287387

[JohnR! 5,495]

I am not sure what the point is either.

Should we suspend all visas from countries in Africa and Asia at this point? Is that the 'sensible' solution?

Yes, twitter polls and the like are indeed amateur hour.

[LibCampFireClub 635]

The White House regime is using American families as lab rats.

Democrats Join Call To Ban Travelers From West Africa

The Huffington Post | By Arthur Delaney

Posted: 10/09/2014 5:06 pm EDT Updated: 10/09/2014 7:59 pm EDT

WASHINGTON -- Three Democrats in the U.S. House of Representatives have joined Republicans in calling on President Barack Obama to restrict travel by people from Ebola-stricken West Africa.

"The United States needs to institute travel restrictions, enhanced airport screening and possible quarantine of individuals who have traveled to, or from, the West African countries that have been most impacted by this tragic Ebola epidemic," says the Wednesday letter.

Reps. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.), Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) and Dave Loebsack (D-Iowa) joined two dozen Republicans in signing the letter. Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) is one of the only other Democrats who has called for a travel ban, most loudly advocated so far by Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal ®. (Grayson first called for a ban in July.) As The Hill reported, a new poll shows that a majority of Americans support the idea.

The Obama administration has resisted calls for travel restrictions, saying airport screening is effective and that aid workers need to be able to travel to and from Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea in order to mitigate the crisis at its root. More than 3,000 people have died in West Africa, and more than 3,000 remain infected.

Instead, the Department of Homeland Security and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have announced new screening procedures, including taking the temperature of people from West Africa at five U.S. airports.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/09/ebola-travel-ban_n_5961446.html

Edited October 13, 2014 by ExExpat