U.S. to spend $9 million to find lawyers for unaccompanied minors in nine cities, including Dallas

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

If you're the immigrant, typically you don't pay, the sponsor does, correct?

Yes. What's your point?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I might be wrong, but I think MBD is the sponsor and his wife is the immigrant. He could either be a naturalized USC or a USC by birth and living overseas with his parents at the time.

You, Marvin, are a right thinking man.

[Teddy B 17,252]

You, Marvin, are a right thinking man.

I first read that as "white thinking man".

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

You, Marvin, are a right thinking man.

Elementary, my dear Watson. I deduced from your posts you spent your childhood in Europe, which tells me either you were born there and spent a large amount of time in Germany due to military parents or some other reason.

[UncleBeer 244]

1. i don't know why i should have to remind you as to how the kids make the journey, they must want to get america very bad.

That's "badly"; it's an adverb. And you ducked the question: how did these kids 'slip away' from their parents and make a 40 day trek to the border without someone planning their journey and approving their 'release' from their parents. You seem . . . incurious as to these points.

2. have they run away from home?

Explain their 'separation' from their parents then. You're for family unity, right? Kids belong with their parents; or is that outmoded "horse & buggy" thinking?

3. some of them have parents they are trying to reunite with, others don't. you ask really dense questions.

So ... you're telling me that more than (say...) 10% of these runaways' parents are already in the States and these abandoned waifs are merely trying to get back to the loving parents who ditched them?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Elementary, my dear Watson. I deduced from your posts you spent your childhood in Europe, which tells me either you were born there and spent a large amount of time in Germany due to military parents or some other reason.

I was German. Born and raised in Germany. I immigrated to the US in the 1990's. And in the 2000's, I married overseas and brought my wife here.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I was German. Born and raised in Germany. I immigrated to the US in the 1990's. And in the 2000's, I married overseas and brought my wife here.

That's why I said naturalized USC. I figured it had to be one of the two.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

That's why I said naturalized USC. I figured it had to be one of the two.

That's right.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

That's right.

If folks would read what someone writes without all the hyperbole, we would learn a lot about each other.

[decocker 7,198]

That's "badly"; it's an adverb. And you ducked the question: how did these kids 'slip away' from their parents and make a 40 day trek to the border without someone planning their journey and approving their 'release' from their parents. You seem . . . incurious as to these points.

no, i'm pretty sure i just said bad. i write as i want, so spare yourself the effort in correcting me. i didn't duck the question, you're trying to get me to say something i'm not going to say. if you really care about what these children are coming from, do some research.

Explain their 'separation' from their parents then. You're for family unity, right? Kids belong with their parents; or is that outmoded "horse & buggy" thinking?

that is certainly outmoded, horse and buggy thinking. if parents are unfit or unwilling, kids belong with a guardian - someone to care for them and invest an interest. i am all for family unity, and some of the children that i take an active interest in, with my time and money, have zero blood relation to me. they are family nonetheless.

So ... you're telling me that more than (say...) 10% of these runaways' parents are already in the States and these abandoned waifs are merely trying to get back to the loving parents who ditched them?

not only do you have zero understanding of the situation at hand, you have zero empathy. abandoned waifs with parents who ditched them? this is how i can tell without a doubt in my mind that you consider these people to be less human than you. try reading something that isn't raging against obama and unfortunate children and maybe you'll gain a bit of compassion. i doubt it, but normally people aren't so proud of being so gross.

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[UncleBeer 244]

no, i'm pretty sure i just said bad. i write as i want

Yes. Badly.

that is certainly outmoded, horse and buggy thinking. if parents are unfit or unwilling, kids belong with a guardian

And who are YOU to judge? You're wholly unfamiliar with their family situations. What's known though is: they are breaking the law.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Yes. Badly.

And who are YOU to judge? You're wholly unfamiliar with their family situations. What's known though is: they are breaking the law.

Ergo the need for a lawyer ...

[decocker 7,198]

Ergo the need for a lawyer ...

maybe laws shouldn't apply to them, seems a lot of effort for abandoned waifs.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

maybe laws shouldn't apply to them, seems a lot of effort for abandoned waifs.

Well that seems to be the implication doesn't it. I think some people seriously believe that it should simply be a case of people being loaded onto buses at gunpoint with no right of appeal or process of law.

Seems to me that's what happened a few decades ago, when if you were hispanic looking and out in public without ID you could be swept up and sent to Mexico as part of Operation Wetback.

[decocker 7,198]

Well that seems to be the implication doesn't it. I think some people seriously believe that it should simply be a case of people being loaded onto buses at gunpoint with no right of appeal or process of law.

Seems to me that's what happened a few decades ago, when if you were hispanic looking and out in public without ID you could be swept up and sent to Mexico as part of Operation Wetback.

amazing that we've no issue 'helping' other countries abroad. problems show up at our own door, children no less, and we want nothing but to turn away.