Ron Paul Thinks There Should Be More Secessionist Movements in the U.S.

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In an essay on his eponymous institution's website Sunday, the former U.S. congressman from Texas wrote that any supporters of freedom should cheer secessionism because it allows for smaller government—a constant mantra for the libertarian and perennial presidential candidate.

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Groups calling for states and regions to secede from the U.S., such as the Second Vermont Republic and the Alaskan Independence Party, gained more publicity in the weeks leading up to the Scottish referendum. As the outsized federal government continues to encroach on individual rights, Paul said, he thinks there will be a groundswell of these movements.

"It's something that I think is going to grow, because the failure of the federal government is going to get much worse," he said. "When the bankruptcy evolves, and maybe some of these pension funds are confiscated, and the wars never end, and bankruptcy comes forth, people [will say], 'Hey, we're getting a bad deal from this. Why don't we leave?' "

He added: "I think it's inevitable people wanting to leave will be there, and the numbers will grow."

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"I think what is most important is we have a concrete right to secede," Paul said. "Even if we never had any secession, or any state declare independence, we would be so much better off, because there would always be this threat. Once the threat of a state leaving was removed, it was just open-door policy for the federal government to expand itself and run roughshod out over the states because the states couldn't do much."

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/ron-paul-thinks-there-should-be-more-secessionist-movements-in-the-u-s-20140930

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I think Ron Paul should secede. He'll have the smallest government ever - just himself.

[GBCW 397]

Ron Paul ain't wrong, though.

The right of a people to self-determination is pretty basic.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Ron Paul ain't wrong, though.

The right of a people to self-determination is pretty basic.

Sure but we know that balkanization isn't the way forward either. And what is really gained when there are smaller governments but a lot more of them?

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And what is really gained when there are smaller governments but a lot more of them?

Depends on the nature of the bigger government being split up and the nature of the smaller alternatives.

It's vital, though, that in the ultimate analysis, the right to self-determination rest with the people.

[Curmudgeon 227]

Depends on the nature of the bigger government being split up and the nature of the smaller alternatives.

It's vital, though, that in the ultimate analysis, the right to self-determination rest with the people.

So, is there a popular movement amongst the mass unwashed to split the US into states? I am not aware of any grass roots movement, even a small one that is pushing for it (unlike in Scotland, where it was a push from the people that drove the politicians), so for someone from the political elite to come up with this bright idea is a nonsense. If the people want it, they'll do it without the likes of Ron Paul

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

So, is there a popular movement amongst the mass unwashed to split the US into states? I am not aware of any grass roots movement, even a small one that is pushing for it (unlike in Scotland, where it was a push from the people that drove the politicians), so for someone from the political elite to come up with this bright idea is a nonsense. If the people want it, they'll do it without the likes of Ron Paul

Ron Paul believes that the people need to be led to their salvation. And he wants to lead them. It's just that every time he turns around, there's nobody there following him.

[Curmudgeon 227]

Ron Paul believes that the people need to be led to their salvation. And he wants to lead them. It's just that every time he turns around, there's nobody there following him.

He needs to invest in a magic flute.