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U.S. soldier shot by German police after Oktoberfest party

The unnamed soldier based at U.S. Army Garrison Grafenwoehr was hit on the head at an Oktoberfest celebration in Munich. He was taken to the hospital where he woke up in a reportedly drunken rage and tore a fire extinguisher off the wall.

A 28-year-old U.S. soldier was shot by German police officers at a Munich hospital after threatening staff, patients with a fire extinguisher during a drunken rampage, reports say.

The soldier allegedly gave an 89-year-old patient a fat lip with the extinguisher after waking up in the Clinic of Grosshadern emergency room with a head wound he suffered at an Oktoberfest party on Thursday night.

He had torn a big, red fire extinguisher off the wall during the attack and waved it around, threatening hit nurses, doctors and patients, Abendzeitung, a German newspaper, reported.

Four Bavarian police officers were called to help hospital staff restrain the soldier, who has been based at U.S. Army Garrison Grafenwoehr since 2013,according to NBC News.

The officers shouted German and English commands to put down the extinguisher, but he refused.

Just before he bludgeoned the cops, one of the officers pointed his firearm at the soldier’s leg and opened fire.

The first shot did not bring the soldier down so he was shot a second time by the officer.The soldier’s new bout of injuries are not considered life-threatening, but now he faces a possible assault charge in Germany.

The soldier, who has not been identified, recently served a tour in Afghanistan,according to Süddeutsche Zeitung, another German newspaper.

It’s rare for German police to use their firearms, but the use of force is being investigated by the Bavarian State Office of Criminal Investigation.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/u-s-soldier-shot-german-police-oktoberfest-party-article-1.1955089

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Hopefully the police will be brought up on charges for using excessive force and endangering the lives of hospital patients and staff by discharging a firearm indoors in close quarters. Tazing would have been more appropriate. Since when is being attacked with a weapon other than a gun an excuse to shoot someone?

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Hopefully the police will be brought up on charges for using excessive force and endangering the lives of hospital patients and staff by discharging a firearm indoors in close quarters. Tazing would have been more appropriate. Since when is being attacked with a weapon other than a gun an excuse to shoot someone?

The police will not be brought up on charges. The suspect had already injured one patient and was in the process of doing more harm to others. He had to be stopped. Again, this having happened in Germany, he's still alive. Had this happened in the US, he'd very likely be dead. People have been shot and killed by police for much, much less.

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The police will not be brought up on charges. The suspect had already injured one patient and was in the process of doing more harm to others. He had to be stopped. Again, this having happened in Germany, he's still alive. Had this happened in the US, he'd very likely be dead. People have been shot and killed by police for much, much less.

But TM and the kid in Ferguson didn't. Go figure.

R.I.P Spooky 2004-2015

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Hopefully the police will be brought up on charges for using excessive force and endangering the lives of hospital patients and staff by discharging a firearm indoors in close quarters. Tazing would have been more appropriate. Since when is being attacked with a weapon other than a gun an excuse to shoot someone?

When the weapon in question could cause fatal injuries to anyone he attacked.

He was challenged, he didn't back down, he was shot. Simples.

The same thing would have happened in the US, except the US police probably wouldn't have attempted to use the perpetrators language as well as the native one to issue the challenge.

Totally justified reaction by the police.

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Germans have always had gun abuse issues.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

 

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