Florida Deputies Gun Man Down as His Son Tries to Explain that He’s Deaf

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

Score another "win" for the police.... What is WRONG with cops today?

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/florida-deputies-gun-man-son-explain-deaf/

Daytona Beach, FL — A 52-year-old father and husband of 30 years, was shot and killed by a Volusia County Sheriff’s deputy Saturday afternoon.
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[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Cop stood his ground - Florida style. Welcome to the Gunshine state.

[decocker 7,198]

Score another "win" for the police.... What is WRONG with cops today?

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/florida-deputies-gun-man-son-explain-deaf/

Daytona Beach, FL — A 52-year-old father and husband of 30 years, was shot and killed by a Volusia County Sheriff’s deputy Saturday afternoon.

Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/florida-deputies-gun-man-son-explain-deaf/#Taxjx4IbBhRkKjqv.99

as we've already determined from the john crawford case, not hearing or fully grasping the severity of the commands uttered by an officer is no an excuse. some cops shoot first and repeat themselves upon grand jury questioning. that's just the way cops have to work now.

[Curmudgeon 227]

If you want the freedom to carry guns virtually everywhere, you are going to have to expect that the Police will treat most people as if they are potential threats to public safety if they do not behave in a way that is anticipated or expected. That's the price of the freedom to carry guns. Thanks all those who want a proliferation of weapons in US towns and cities everywhere

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

If you want the freedom to carry guns virtually everywhere, you are going to have to expect that the Police will treat most people as if they are potential threats to public safety if they do not behave in a way that is anticipated or expected. That's the price of the freedom to carry guns. Thanks all those who want a proliferation of weapons in US towns and cities everywhere

Indeed.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

If you want the freedom to carry guns virtually everywhere, you are going to have to expect that the Police will treat most people as if they are potential threats to public safety if they do not behave in a way that is anticipated or expected. That's the price of the freedom to carry guns. Thanks all those who want a proliferation of weapons in US towns and cities everywhere

Quite an ignorant statement, actually. So because Americans are allowed to carry guns, then the police should be able to shoot and kill a deaf man because he behaves differently?

Please don't share your thoughts on what the police should be able to do to quadriplegics or folks with alzheimer's. I don't want to know.

[Curmudgeon 227]

Quite an ignorant statement, actually. So because Americans are allowed to carry guns, then the police should be able to shoot and kill a deaf man because he behaves differently?

Please don't share your thoughts on what the police should be able to do to quadriplegics or folks with alzheimer's. I don't want to know.

Should be able to? I didn't say that the police should be able to do any such thing, nor do I approve of what occurred, just in case you are still in some kind of doubt about this, although why you would be...

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

If you want the freedom to carry guns virtually everywhere, you are going to have to expect that the Police will treat most people as if they are potential threats to public safety if they do not behave in a way that is anticipated or expected. That's the price of the freedom to carry guns. Thanks all those who want a proliferation of weapons in US towns and cities everywhere

Should be able to? I didn't say that the police should be able to do any such thing, nor do I approve of what occurred, just in case you are still in some kind of doubt about this, although why you would be...

Should be able to, or expect police to treat folks as threats if they don't act as expected. Semantics, IMHO

[Curmudgeon 227]

Should be able to, or expect police to treat folks as threats if they don't act as expected. Semantics, IMHO

Semantics? No, what I said and what you think I said are fairly wide apart. I do not believe for one moment that a police officer should fire at innocent civilians. I am simply saying that if you want to carry firearms pretty much at will in towns and cities, you need to be aware of the fact that the police will treat you as if you might well be carrying a firearm, that's common sense. This fact alone will lead to accidental shootings of this type. These do not happen with any degree of regularity in societies where the carrying of fire arms in urban settings is discouraged of flat out banned.

In the US, they do these accidental shootings are not in the least bit rare, they are fairly common place. You may want to believe that it's simply down to the fact that the US police force are agents of the government out to get you and the answer is more firearms and probably the right to shoot at policemen if you want to. Or, you may just understand that it is a sad consequence of your second amendment right.

Edited September 26, 2014 by Curmudgeon

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

The more guns you have out there, the more injury and death will result. Simple as that.

[Dakine10 5,452]

Score another "win" for the police.... What is WRONG with cops today?

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/florida-deputies-gun-man-son-explain-deaf/

Daytona Beach, FL — A 52-year-old father and husband of 30 years, was shot and killed by a Volusia County Sheriff’s deputy Saturday afternoon.

Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/florida-deputies-gun-man-son-explain-deaf/#Taxjx4IbBhRkKjqv.99

What does gunned him down mean? I keep hearing that guns don't kill people. None of this makes sense.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

Or, you may just understand that it is a sad consequence of your second amendment right.

Or, you may just be full of . Pray tell, what makes you think an officer of the law should shoot a deaf man who is unarmed, thru a window of a vehicle? I doubt very seriously the cop feared for his life because they heard that there are guns in the hands of many people in America. I mean, those guns have kind of been out there for.... years.

What does gunned him down mean? I keep hearing that guns don't kill people. None of this makes sense.

You are correct. Never in history has a gun ever pulled its own trigger.

[Dakine10 5,452]

You are correct. Never in history has a gun ever pulled its own trigger.

That would make a catchy slogan. "Guns don't pull their own trigger and kill people, people pull a guns trigger and kill people".

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

That would make a catchy slogan.

I'm all about CS. Or maybe that was CRS, but I can't remember...

[Curmudgeon 227]

Or, you may just be full of ######. Pray tell, what makes you think an officer of the law should shoot a deaf man who is unarmed, thru a window of a vehicle? I doubt very seriously the cop feared for his life because they heard that there are guns in the hands of many people in America. I mean, those guns have kind of been out there for.... years.

You are correct. Never in history has a gun ever pulled its own trigger.

I haven't said that a police officer should shoot an unarmed deaf guy through the window of a vehicle. I have said at least three times that there is no excuse for this and I certainly do not condone or approve of it What I said was, that the police have to assume that everyone might be armed, because the reality is a lot of people are. In European countries, civilians are rarely if ever killed by police. You might want to examine what the reasons are for this, or you might want to just ignore the fact that having a large amount of armed civilians in a civilian setting is going to result in high proportion of gun related accidents, up to and including the police shooting people who do not deserve to be shot which includes deaf people and those who suffer from mental impairment. I am not justifying anything, I am saying it's a price you pay for having the second amendment so liberally applied.