The NVC Moral Support/Ranting Thread

[EOC 440]

I wouldn't mind but not moving to NH that's for sure!

:rofl:

[Soloenta 2,218]

I know some would disagree with me on this one, but elected reps have no business intervening for individual cases. If they see injustices going on they should intervene to fix the system as a whole and/or make incompetent agency planners account for their failings. The reason I say this is, far too often in less transparent systems of government, this practice can easily morph into a situation where no one will get justice without some rep intervening on their behalf and reaping some kind of payback, financially or at the ballot box.

Thanks... fingers crossed for all of us.

Actually, when I went to bed last night after the day's ordeal, I realized that my wife is right next to me and my kids are fast asleep and safe next-doors. At that moment, nothing else really mattered and I trusted the next day will bring its own mix of news. Sure enough, I was woken up by an email ping on my phone around 4:30 in the morning with the CU-Boulder supporting letter. I usually wake up at that time anyway to tend my garden before the school run.

How beautiful and how true, nothing matters as long as your with your loved ones. Everything else will fall into place or not but your with who your supposed to be with.

Why do I see such a dark tunnel, I wish I was more positive than I am.

[Soloenta 2,218]

Yes Ma'am... Will do.................. There... Done!

Door-to-door, the embassy is less than a mile from my house, as the crow flies.

Please keep it up. The requested document should be in his hand by now, unless he's busy with another victim applicant.

Hahahaa VICTIM hahahahaa praying as I type will continue until you tell me to stop. Wait, when will you know, will he call back, do you have to call?

Edited September 25, 2014 by Soloenta

[romii 150]

I thought US had the best justice system in the world, then why are all of us being treated such unfairly. People with connections are getting their case completed early, yet the ones who chose to take the "prescribed" path are being mistreated.

I had a panic attack last night and couldn't stop crying, my poor hubby stayed on the phone with me until I felt better. He basically stayed up all night to comfort me. I sometimes feel sorry for him and I start thinking that it's all my fault for putting him through this.

Sometimes I feel I'm being selfish for staying here and leaving him all alone and other times I rationalize it thinking it's only a matter of time and it'll be better for me to stay here and work as much, just so we both don't have to build our lives from scratch again.

All of this is just a mess. I want to be positive, yet I become my own biggest critic.

[mdzcpa 58]

_{I know the rant thread is where this post belongs.}

_{Like many of you, we are disappointed and let down by this process and the government that is supposed to serve its citizens. A process which is by all measures fairly simply that takes a year to review a few forms is really quite disturbing. And to think we all PAY for this "service." Only a government institution that is supported by public funding could be so incompetent and yet survive. There is no excuse imaginable that makes this process acceptable. Poor political decisions backed up by incompetent administration has families separated for over a year. That's just not right.}

_{After waiting 6 months for an NAO2 (like most of us), and waiting at the NVC for 5 months, we sadly enough received an NVC checklist on our AOS last week. Our useless attorney put the wrong income number from my 2013 1040 tax return into box 13.a.1 (he used AGI instead of line 22 Total Income). He was promptly fired last week and I sent a new AOS in myself that has a scan date of 9/24. My wife broke down and cried for the first time during this process as we realized yet another 60 days was down the toilet. Our attorneys fault??...yes. My fault for not reviewing his work more carefully??....yes. But the real rub is how simply ridiculous the process is that such a small error costs so dearly in the lives of those trapped within this insane process. Although I'm not as upset as I was 10 days ago, I'm still simmering over this entire immigration process. After getting delayed at USCIS for 6+ months in the backlog, they open the flood gates and dump applications on the unprepared NVC resulting in another backlog on the same folks previously delayed. It would be comical if it were not so tragic. What was taking 90 days at NVC just a few months ago now takes 6 months. And it boggles the mind that checklists are reviewed in the same que as first time document submissions. I don't get that. So it will take 2 months to review one single number, in one single box, that is the same exact number that appears on the attached tax return. That my friends is total lunacy. You would think that they would have a process for dealing with a simple typo correction versus other checklists that have bona fide evidential or qualification shortfalls. But hey, I guess that would just be too efficient for our incompetent government to implement.}

_{All the "real" work is done at the Consulate level. The NVC is simply "secretarial" making sure everyone's forms are in order before they ship them for the interview. It staggers the mind that there is no one watching or caring that the NVC is woefully under staffed and that families are being emotionally damaged. Its a quiet little atrocity that the news doesn't cover as is not politically juicy enough to make the 24/7 news cycle. Only those of us trapped and crawling slowly through the system really understand the hardship it brings to loving families.}

_{My wife Rosalit is crushed now that it looks like yet another Christmas without us together in our home. We never imagined the process could take 14 months or more and we were so hopeful we would be together this holiday season. Such a terrible time of the year for a checklist that costs 2 months.}

_{We are trying to stay strong though. We refuse to let this broken and incompetent system get the best of us and we are now making Christmas plans me to visit her over the holidays to sooth the bitter underlying disappointment.}

_{Thanks for letting me rant.}

Edited September 25, 2014 by mdzcpa

[MoBar65 520]

Hahahaa VICTIM hahahahaa praying as I type will continue until you tell me to stop. Wait, when will you know, will he call back, do you have to call?

I expect a forthcoming email or a call once a decision is made. In the meantime, I'll be holding my vigil at CEAC.

You've done enough praying for me dear... it's nearly closing time here. Save some for the others. Let's see some CCs and interviews before the week is done.

I'll start chanting my goofy chant

Hey Hey NVC! .... How many more weeks for CC?

[Soloenta 2,218]

I thought US had the best justice system in the world, then why are all of us being treated such unfairly. People with connections are getting their case completed early, yet the ones who chose to take the "prescribed" path are being mistreated. :cry:

I had a panic attack last night and couldn't stop crying, my poor hubby stayed on the phone with me until I felt better. He basically stayed up all night to comfort me. I sometimes feel sorry for him and I start thinking that it's all my fault for putting him through this.

Sometimes I feel I'm being selfish for staying here and leaving him all alone and other times I rationalize it thinking it's only a matter of time and it'll be better for me to stay here and work as much, just so we both don't have to build our lives from scratch again.

All of this is just a mess. I want to be positive, yet I become my own biggest critic. :cry:

Oh Romii, I'm so sorry I know how you feel, I fear the Egyptian Embassy, why should I be made to fear it? There are no answers to some of our questions and it is unfair and it doesn't make any sense at all. But it's almost over just a little bit longer and we will God willing be free of all this. Free to live our lives to do as we wish and not seek approval from these incompetent fools. Insha'Allah

[benjicher 26]

I think it's long past time for guerilla warfare.

I've created usfamiliesfirst@hotmail.com.

Please note this email. What I'd like to do is to have us give it to operators at NVC when we call in and ask them to get on our side. They are the ones dealing with the angry calls, but they are human beings who probably if they heard our stories would be sympathetic. So let's call forth that sympathy.

If you get a sympathetic agent, ask them to note the email on a piece of paper and when they get home send us whatever they can in terms of information on how NVC works, additional contact numbers that get to people in administrative positions, anything that will help us wage war on this piece of s*&t administration. At the very least, they will tell supervisors and it will move up the chain somewhat. If we do get info, we can use that in letters and calls to the press and Congress.

It is high time we get pissed off.

[EOC 440]

I thought US had the best justice system in the world, then why are all of us being treated such unfairly. People with connections are getting their case completed early, yet the ones who chose to take the "prescribed" path are being mistreated.

I had a panic attack last night and couldn't stop crying, my poor hubby stayed on the phone with me until I felt better. He basically stayed up all night to comfort me. I sometimes feel sorry for him and I start thinking that it's all my fault for putting him through this.

Sometimes I feel I'm being selfish for staying here and leaving him all alone and other times I rationalize it thinking it's only a matter of time and it'll be better for me to stay here and work as much, just so we both don't have to build our lives from scratch again.

All of this is just a mess. I want to be positive, yet I become my own biggest critic.

Am so sorry sweetheart, its neither your fault or hubby. I felt same thing 2 days go when Jim gave me a bad news, I cried all thru the night on the phone during my conversation with my hubby. I had a sharp pain in my heart but am getting better now. So I understand how you feel.

All what we can do is just to hang in there, though its difficult to do because I haven't gotten over the game NVC is playing with my case file. And I'll be rest assurred until Octavio fulfil his promise.

We all are here for each other sweetie. Soon all will be well and we will all be with our spouse soon.

[Soloenta 2,218]

_{I know the rant thread is where this post belongs.}

_{Like many of you, we are disappointed and let down by this process and the government that is supposed to serve its citizens. A process which is by all measures fairly simply that takes a year to review a few forms is really quite disturbing. And to think we all PAY for this "service." Only a government institution that is supported by public funding could be so incompetent and yet survive. There is no excuse imaginable that makes this process acceptable. Poor political decisions backed up by incompetent administration has families separated for over a year. That's just not right.}

_{After waiting 6 months for an NAO2 (like most of us), and waiting at the NVC for 5 months, we sadly enough received an NVC checklist on our AOS last week. Our useless attorney put the wrong income number from my 2013 1040 tax return into box 13.a.1 (he used AGI instead of line 22 Total Income). He was promptly fired last week and I sent a new AOS in myself that has a scan date of 9/24. My wife broke down and cried for the first time during this process as we realized yet another 60 days was down the toilet. Our attorneys fault??...yes. My fault for not reviewing his work more carefully??....yes. But the real rub is how simply ridiculous the process is that such a small error costs so dearly in the lives of those trapped within this insane process. Although I'm not as upset as I was 10 days ago, I'm still simmering over this entire immigration process. After getting delayed at USCIS for 6+ months in the backlog, they open the flood gates and dump applications on the unprepared NVC resulting in another backlog on the same folks previously delayed. It would be comical if it were not so tragic. What was taking 90 days at NVC just a few months ago now takes 6 months. And it boggles the mind that checklists are reviewed in the same que as first time document submissions. I don't get that. So it will take 2 months to review one single number, in one single box, that is the same exact number that appears on the attached tax return. That my friends is total lunacy. You would think that they would have a process for dealing with a simple typo correction versus other checklists that have bona fide evidential or qualification shortfalls. But hey, I guess that would just be too efficient for our incompetent government to implement.}

_{All the "real" work is done at the Consulate level. The NVC is simply "secretarial" making sure everyone's forms are in order before they ship them for the interview. It staggers the mind that there is no one watching or caring that the NVC is woefully under staffed and that families are being emotionally damaged. Its a quiet little atrocity that the news doesn't cover as is not politically juicy enough to make the 24/7 news cycle. Only those of us trapped and crawling slowly through the system really understand the hardship it brings to loving families.}

_{My wife Rosalit is crushed now that it looks like yet another Christmas without us together in our home. We never imagined the process could take 14 months or more and we were so hopeful we would be together this holiday season. Such a terrible time of the year for a checklist that costs 2 months.}

_{We are trying to stay strong though. We refuse to let this broken and incompetent system get the best of us and we are now making Christmas plans me to visit her over the holidays to sooth the bitter underlying disappointment.}

_{Thanks for letting me rant.}

To the thread and you stated it beautifully and we are here for you when ever you need us.

One sad note, there are even worse things happening at the Consulate/Embassy level, much worse than you can immagine to innocent people. This is truly a tragedy since there is really no recourse in these matters.

[Soloenta 2,218]

I expect a forthcoming email or a call once a decision is made. In the meantime, I'll be holding my vigil at CEAC.

You've done enough praying for me dear... it's nearly closing time here. Save some for the others. Let's see some CCs and interviews before the week is done.

I'll start chanting my goofy chant

Hey Hey NVC! .... How many more weeks for CC?

Hahahaa your so funny geez ok well, I'm sure if the doofus doesn't e-mail you today he will tomorrow for sure, Monday if he's a total idiot.

I just called Sylvia at NVC had a lovely person pick up her name was Vanessa and she quickly looked for the Supervisor she said she can't find her and she might be in a meeting and what would I like to do have her call me or call back later. I asked for the Supervisor to call me since it was so difficult to get through. She apologized hahaa she has to be new she's toooooooooooooo nice, I thanked her and here I am.

Ok everyone, I have a question I would like every one to answer since this thread belongs to us all. Should I start a new thread the 1st of the month like Saylin and Dewheels does? Or would you rather I just leave it as is? It's up to you guys to decide.

[EOC 440]

_{I know the rant thread is where this post belongs.}

_{Like many of you, we are disappointed and let down by this process and the government that is supposed to serve its citizens. A process which is by all measures fairly simply that takes a year to review a few forms is really quite disturbing. And to think we all PAY for this "service." Only a government institution that is supported by public funding could be so incompetent and yet survive. There is no excuse imaginable that makes this process acceptable. Poor political decisions backed up by incompetent administration has families separated for over a year. That's just not right.}

_{After waiting 6 months for an NAO2 (like most of us), and waiting at the NVC for 5 months, we sadly enough received an NVC checklist on our AOS last week. Our useless attorney put the wrong income number from my 2013 1040 tax return into box 13.a.1 (he used AGI instead of line 22 Total Income). He was promptly fired last week and I sent a new AOS in myself that has a scan date of 9/24. My wife broke down and cried for the first time during this process as we realized yet another 60 days was down the toilet. Our attorneys fault??...yes. My fault for not reviewing his work more carefully??....yes. But the real rub is how simply ridiculous the process is that such a small error costs so dearly in the lives of those trapped within this insane process. Although I'm not as upset as I was 10 days ago, I'm still simmering over this entire immigration process. After getting delayed at USCIS for 6+ months in the backlog, they open the flood gates and dump applications on the unprepared NVC resulting in another backlog on the same folks previously delayed. It would be comical if it were not so tragic. What was taking 90 days at NVC just a few months ago now takes 6 months. And it boggles the mind that checklists are reviewed in the same que as first time document submissions. I don't get that. So it will take 2 months to review one single number, in one single box, that is the same exact number that appears on the attached tax return. That my friends is total lunacy. You would think that they would have a process for dealing with a simple typo correction versus other checklists that have bona fide evidential or qualification shortfalls. But hey, I guess that would just be too efficient for our incompetent government to implement.}

_{All the "real" work is done at the Consulate level. The NVC is simply "secretarial" making sure everyone's forms are in order before they ship them for the interview. It staggers the mind that there is no one watching or caring that the NVC is woefully under staffed and that families are being emotionally damaged. Its a quiet little atrocity that the news doesn't cover as is not politically juicy enough to make the 24/7 news cycle. Only those of us trapped and crawling slowly through the system really understand the hardship it brings to loving families.}

_{My wife Rosalit is crushed now that it looks like yet another Christmas without us together in our home. We never imagined the process could take 14 months or more and we were so hopeful we would be together this holiday season. Such a terrible time of the year for a checklist that costs 2 months.}

_{We are trying to stay strong though. We refuse to let this broken and incompetent system get the best of us and we are now making Christmas plans me to visit her over the holidays to sooth the bitter underlying disappointment.}

_{Thanks for letting me rant.}

We are all here for each other. Good thing that you fired your lawyer, some lawyers are just idiots. The whole immigration stages are full of nightmare, right from uscis stage to the consulate/embassy. I pray God see us all thru this nightmare.

[romii 150]

Thank you soloenta and EOC! You two really are the troopers of this whole process. You guys have been through so much and yet are so positive!

It's amazing that you guys are supporting the rest of us like this. Thank you for everything! Every single word means a lot to all of us!

Edited September 25, 2014 by romii

[k.dlg 297]

Actually, when I went to bed last night after the day's ordeal, I realized that my wife is right next to me and my kids are fast asleep and safe next-doors. At that moment, nothing else really mattered and I trusted the next day will bring its own mix of news. Sure enough, I was woken up by an email ping on my phone around 4:30 in the morning with the CU-Boulder supporting letter. I usually wake up at that time anyway to tend my garden before the school run.

Sigh, you have a great perspective to help you deal with this mess, but I am happy to hear that Colorado were very prompt about sending you the letter the embassy requested. Best of luck with a swift AP.

[Soloenta 2,218]

Thank you soloenta and EOC! You two really are the troopers of this whole process. You guys have been through so much and yet are so positive!

It's amazing that you guys are supporting the rest of us like this. Thank you for everything! Every single word means a lot to all of us!

Awww thank you my dear Romii your so sweet and all of you hold me up and I'm sure I can speak for EOC on this one. God bless you and all going through this.