38 Men Raped in U.S. Military Each Day

[Dan and Judy 614]

another way bedsides sick call for a malingering worthless POC loser to get out of duty or get his superiors off his back for being, well a malingering POC.

38 a day. Heck that is almost one per Army Base .

Maybe 36 claims a day.

Such BS

14,000 per year is almost a whole Infantry Div. Absurd

There are a total of 1.46 Million active personnel in the US military.

http://us-military-branches.findthebest.com/app-question/443/How-many-people-are-there-in-the-US-military

It's not claims of rape per day, They extrapolate from the claims they have knowing that most rapes don't get reported.

That's the way I understood the info.

Edited September 11, 2014 by Dan and Judy

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

another way bedsides sick call for a malingering worthless POC loser to get out of duty or get his superiors off his back for being, well a malingering POC.

38 a day. Heck that is almost one per Army Base .

Maybe 36 claims a day.

Such BS

14,000 per year is almost a whole Infantry Div. Absurd

Firstly I see ignore is working well

Secondly, BS because you say so doesn't strike me as a particularly compelling argument.

Either sexual assault in the military is a problem or it isn't. Quibbling about the numbers imo is missing the point.

There are a total of 1.46 Million active personnel in the US military.

http://us-military-branches.findthebest.com/app-question/443/How-many-people-are-there-in-the-US-military

So 14,000 could well be accurate.

[Dan and Judy 614]

Here's the fresh meat.

Interesting that he tells them they are not allowed to have condoms. at about 1;35

"You will bend over and grab your ankles" "Do you understand?"

"Yes Sir"

"You have 10 seconds, Do it Now!

Edited September 11, 2014 by Dan and Judy

[Dan and Judy 614]

There are a total of 1.46 Million active personnel in the US military.

http://us-military-branches.findthebest.com/app-question/443/How-many-people-are-there-in-the-US-military

It's not claims of rape per day, They extrapolate from the claims they have knowing that most rapes don't get reported.

That's the way I understood the info.

that's like one in 40,000

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Here's the fresh meat.

Interesting that he tells them they are not allowed to have condoms. at about 1;35

"You will bend over and grab your ankles" "Do you understand?"

"Yes Sir"

"You have 10 seconds, Do it Now!

If you don't tell someone in the military what's not allowed, they'll do it, and can't get in trouble because no one said you couldn't.

[decocker 7,198]

If you don't tell someone in the military what's not allowed, they'll do it, and can't get in trouble because no one said you couldn't.

that's a pretty low bar..

[rlogan 2,036]

I think all you can reasonably say is that some people can handle trauma better than others. That doesn't mean it needs to be in any way downplayed.

Who is downplaying? Talk about straw man and the exact opposite of what someone is saying.

We need women icons who are towers of strength and who overcome adversity to become even stronger. Not this vision of the perpetual victim, broken forever and not just because she was raped but because ten thousand years of oppression by men has put into her DNA the incapability of being anything but a victim. Being against incessant victimology framing of women is not "downplaying".

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

that's a pretty low bar..

Remember, you're paid to act, not think. This is why when we do something, we have to sign paperwork. Even someone as mundane as internet porn, we have to sign a page 13 stated we were told not to surf it at work.

[decocker 7,198]

Remember, you're paid to act, not think. This is why when we do something, we have to sign paperwork. Even someone as mundane as internet porn, we have to sign a page 13 stated we were told not to surf it at work.

well that settles it. i'm not military material.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

well that settles it. i'm not military material.

I'll say this much, things have changed since I came in 20 years ago. The rules are still the same, but now you can kinda get out of the box, as long as the mission is completed.

You'd be a great NCO. Not just saying that cause I love your music selection....

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Who is downplaying? Talk about straw man and the exact opposite of what someone is saying.

We need women icons who are towers of strength and who overcome adversity to become even stronger. Not this vision of the perpetual victim, broken forever and not just because she was raped but because ten thousand years of oppression by men has put into her DNA the incapability of being anything but a victim. Being against incessant victimology framing of women is not "downplaying".

Guy you made a spurious generalisation about female rape victims based on a crude stereotype of femininists That's not straw man, its pretty much what you said.

It probably doesn't need to be pointed out that there is something a little inappropriate about men telling women (or anyone) how to act after a rape. This is a horrific crime that can carry with it long term emotional and psychological problems. As anything, some people cope better than others.

You don't need to be for or against anything as far as this subject goes, your only responsibility is to not judge.

[rlogan 2,036]

Guy you made a spurious generalisation about female rape victims based on a crude stereotype of femininists That's not straw man, its pretty much what you said.

It probably doesn't need to be pointed out that there is something a little inappropriate about men telling women (or anyone) how to act after a rape. This is a horrific crime that can carry with it long term emotional and psychological problems. As anything, some people cope better than others.

You don't need to be for or against anything as far as this subject goes, your only responsibility is to not judge.

*yawn*

This is just so childish - this attempt at straw man shaming/guilt tripping. You are trying to bully me with it, and it isn't going to work. The shame is on you, belittling the sound advice of turning your mind to healing and victory. Instead of perpetual victimhood. I know it personally.

I was married to worst case scenario for a lot of years, and can say that it was the worst period of my life - horrific. My wife and her sisters had been regularly raped by their pedophile father for over a decade, with him dropping from the older to the middle, to the younger - my wife. She got it the longest, until she was in High School.

Her mother walked in the kitchen one day when he had her sitting in his lap with his fingers up her and the mother turned around and walked out - not saying a word. Her cowardly brother left for a two-year mission to Africa so that Dad would be alone with her. The older two sisters were in college. She begged him not to go, because as she expected the rapes became more frequent. After his favorite TV show at night. A western. She so dreaded the show ending because it was... time to tuck you in, honey.

All this unknown to me. There was something wrong with her, this grew increasingly clear over the years, and I was finally divorcing her. So her last stand was to let all this out after years of me begging her, going to counselors, and her concealing it all. Guess what I did? First I confronted the father and he actually sent this apology to her, not admitting exactly what he did, but acknowledging how horrific it was. I sent that to the sheriff's office, who I had immediately called to open an investigation.

One sister came through this alright: the one who confronted the father. She came back after having graduated from college and called a meeting of the girls. For the first time, they talked about it directly. About how he raped all of them in sequence. The eldest told them she would confront the father and tell him that it either stopped now, or they would report him. So - the result of that was he started coaching little girls' soccer, church groups and the like - anything that could get his clutches on little girls. But he stopped raping the girl I married, I think it was 12 years later.

In all those years, I was the only one who called the sheriff, and it got him removed from the Church and soccer. The statute of limitations had expired on raping his daughters. But to your rude insistence that nobody should be telling people how to cope - you are dead wrong. Continuing to be a victim is the worst thing you can do, it not only destroys you but has the best chance at continuing the cycle of abuse. I was on the receiving end of it for years.

How dare you say there is no way to cope with rape and that we can't do anything about helping victims. You are wrong.

Edited September 11, 2014 by rlogan

[decocker 7,198]

This is just so childish

i like how you started with this:

this attempt at straw man shaming/guilt tripping. You are trying to bully me with it, and it isn't going to work. The shame is on you, belittling the sound advice of turning your mind to healing and victory. Instead of perpetual victimhood. I know it personally.

and ended with this:

How dare you say there is no way to cope with rape and that we can't do anything about helping victims. You are wrong.

[waka1 28]

Prison/gang culture= domination, control, violence

From Wikipedia...

In 2008, FBI gang investigator Jennifer Simon stated that 1-2% of the U.S. military belongs to gangs, which is 50-100 times the rate in the general population.^[1] According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation's 2011 National Gang Threat Assessment, the NGIC has identified members of more than 53 gangs who have served in the United States military, including Bloods, Crips, Latin Kings,MS-13, Sureños, the Aryan Brotherhood, Barrio Azteca, Bandidos, Hells Angels, and Gangster Disciples.^[2]

U.S. gangs have sometimes encouraged their members to join the military in order to learn urban warfare techniques, which they could then teach other gang members when they returned from service.^{[citation needed]}

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I didn't say anything remotely along the lines of there's no way to cope with rape or help anyone who has suffered it.

What I said was that taking issue with feminism over some spurious, stereotypical conception of victimhood is rather crass.

There's no right way for someone to deal with rape, I'd hazard a guess and say to you that a persons experience of it and how it impacted them in later life is deeply personal and its not for you to make arbitrary judgements of what that should be.

Edited September 11, 2014 by Hail Ming!