On-line tracking system of I-601's submitted in London

[dwar49 0]

Thanks for the replies.

No there are no medical problems in my family (first time in my life I have regretted that)

My parents arent in need of assistance either.

It has been little over a year since my Fiancee left the country from her overstay. That may be the big thing going againest us.

Again thanks for the information and the links.

Beetee, I am a member of that board also. I posted my letter there few months ago and had some very positive feedback on it. After reading other examples given there, I think I have very strong hardship letter (with exception of medical problems) i havent seen any that I would consider stronger.

[Baileyj96 0]

dwar49

Well you might actually think of putting something in there about in the future. As they get older and their health fails them. (god forbid) and the assistance that you could provide for them under those circumstances. Do a bit of speculating. What might happen in the future if you were not there to provide or assist your parents.

Justs a thought,

Vicky

[rebeccajo 14]

dwar I'm looking at your timeline and trying to figure something out.

You say she had a 7 year overstay.

She left for the UK 7/05. Came back 9/05 and departed again 12/05.

Then tried to re-enter again 1/06 and FINALLY they barred her?

How in the heck did she get in on 9/05? And when DID her ban clock start to tick? 7/05?

9/05? 1/06?

Edited August 15, 2006 by rebeccajo

[cmltdg 0]

oh, hey, Paul! I see you're reading this topic too! Hope all is going well for you. I just popped in to see if Beetee had heard any good news! Guess not yet. Darn!

Have a great day!

Tiff

[Baileyj96 0]

Yeah and I don't think we are going to get an update today either.

.................................just when we think there is a method to this madness.........................................................................

..........................................

Vicky

[beetee4ever 0]

Hope everyone is doing well

Dang it ....... no update today either I remembered some weeks where they updated like 3-4 times, ofcourse that aint happening lately....yirk.

[mary&tom 0]

Hope everyone is doing well

Dang it ....... no update today either I remembered some weeks where they updated like 3-4 times, ofcourse that aint happening lately....yirk.

You have been waiting a really long time. Are you together while you are waiting?

mary

[dwar49 0]

dwar I'm looking at your timeline and trying to figure something out.

You say she had a 7 year overstay.

She left for the UK 7/05. Came back 9/05 and departed again 12/05.

Then tried to re-enter again 1/06 and FINALLY they barred her?

How in the heck did she get in on 9/05? And when DID her ban clock start to tick? 7/05?

9/05? 1/06?

Actual dates was she left US on June 30th 2005

Reentered on VWP 30 Sept 2005 and departed on 29 December 2005

when she came back Jan of 2006 she was refused entry.

Our mistake was her coming back so soon after last stay. Honestly think that if we had waited over 90 days between visits they would never have refused entry. I would have to look at home where i have the info but on her passport it was just stamped that she was refused entry, there were no codes for more serious offense. Looking back we were very ignorant concerning the laws and how they tracked overstays that did not involve any USCIS involvement when she left. We honestly thought there wouldnt be problem. Also we are not yet sure she actually is on 10 year ban at this time as still have not been able to confirm it with request for information from the USCIS.

[beetee4ever 0]

Mary&Tom

No, he is in the US while I'm waiting here - we thought it would be quicker after reading about other London experiences and timelines, back then it was 8-12 weeks but now it is 12-15 weeks and ONLY from the date of the postcard they send you and not from the time of the submitted waiver.....bummer.

But we got the RFE and sent it back to them, they recieved it last Tuesday so I guess it can't be much longer *sigh*.

I hope your moving is going well, have you figured it all out by now?? I think that Jpekswim had some good ideas for you since she moved too I hope that things are not as hectic at the London airports anymore, but you are not leaving just yet right?

[Baileyj96 0]

Evening guys and gals.

Well I was just reading through some info on some government sites about waiver and such. Yeah yeah yeah I know..................how exciting and I must have no life at all. Don't even know what I was looking for but I found something.

Mary you might be interested in this. I know it means nothing and won't help what they done to you two but you might get just a tiny bit of satisfaction from it. I found this and thought I would share.

Just a thought.

10.10 Refund of Fees.

When an applicant or petitioner pays a filing fee on an application, he or she is seeking a decision from the Service regarding the applicant or beneficiary’s eligibility for the benefit(s) being sought. In general, the Service does not refund a fee or application regardless of the decision on the application. There are only a few exceptions to this rule, such as when the Service made an error which resulted in the application being filed inappropriately or when an incorrect fee was collected. For example, if the Service advises an applicant to file a waiver application for a ground of inadmissibility which is inapplicable to that applicant, the fee should be refunded. If an applicant or petitioner believes that he or she is entitled to a refund of fee, he or she should file Form G-266, Refund of Immigration and Naturalization Fees. The form is available on the INS Intranet. Send the completed form to the Debt Management Center (DMC), 70 Kimball Ave., South Burlington, VT 05403-6813 or fax it to (802) 660-5107. Retain a copy for office records, following local procedures. Send only the completed form to DMC, retaining any back-up documents, applications, etc. The DMC will notify you of the disposition of the request. Only a single refund may be requested per form. Complete the form in accordance with the following instructions:

Block Number Explanation of Entry

1 List the office in which the form was prepared

2 Assign a request number for the refund using the FCO-Fiscal Year-Sequential Number format. (For example: LOS-2000-0011 would be the 11th request submitted by the Los Angeles office during FY 2000.)

Block Number Explanation of Entry

3 Enter the requesting office mailing address

4 Enter the area code and telephone number of the person to whom questions regarding the refund may be directed

5 Enter the name and address of the person to whom the refund should be sent. Fee refunds for minors should be sent to a parent or guardian "in behalf of" the child’s name. This information must be displayed in the sequence listed below. Use an additional address line, if necessary

- Line 1: First name, middle initial, last name of payee

- Line 2: In behalf of ________________ (if applicable)

- Line 3: Street address or P.O. Box

- Line 4: City, state and Zip code

6 Record information necessary to file and retrieve the disposition copy after action by the DMC. (receipt file number, etc, according to local procedures). The requesting office remains responsible for maintaining sufficient information and files for a proper audit trail

7 Use this space to identify (name and phone number) a point of contact in the event The DMC has questions concerning processing of the request

8 Enter the application form number (or "fingerprint fee" if appropriate)

9 Enter applicable section of law, if any

10 Enter the exact amount of the fee to be refunded

11 Circle the reason for the refund: "overpayment", "Service error" or "other". If "other" is circled, there must be a brief explanation. Forms submitted without explanation will be returned by DMC without action

12 Original signature of signatory authority.*

13 - 15 Leave blank – for DMC use only

* If delegated below the office head, the office head must send a memorandum defining the specific delegation. The memorandum must contain the specific authority being delegated (e.g. approval of Fee Refund Requests, Forms G-266), the name, title and signature of each subordinate receiving the delegation and the effective date of the delegation.

Baileyj

Edited August 16, 2006 by Baileyj96

[mary&tom 0]

Evening guys and gals.

Well I was just reading through some info on some government sites about waiver and such. Yeah yeah yeah I know..................how exciting and I must have no life at all. Don't even know what I was looking for but I found something.

Mary you might be interested in this. I know it means nothing and won't help what they done to you two but you might get just a tiny bit of satisfaction from it. I found this and thought I would share.

Just a thought.

10.10 Refund of Fees.

When an applicant or petitioner pays a filing fee on an application, he or she is seeking a decision from the Service regarding the applicant or beneficiary’s eligibility for the benefit(s) being sought. In general, the Service does not refund a fee or application regardless of the decision on the application. There are only a few exceptions to this rule, such as when the Service made an error which resulted in the application being filed inappropriately or when an incorrect fee was collected. For example, if the Service advises an applicant to file a waiver application for a ground of inadmissibility which is inapplicable to that applicant, the fee should be refunded. If an applicant or petitioner believes that he or she is entitled to a refund of fee, he or she should file Form G-266, Refund of Immigration and Naturalization Fees. The form is available on the INS Intranet. Send the completed form to the Debt Management Center (DMC), 70 Kimball Ave., South Burlington, VT 05403-6813 or fax it to (802) 660-5107. Retain a copy for office records, following local procedures. Send only the completed form to DMC, retaining any back-up documents, applications, etc. The DMC will notify you of the disposition of the request. Only a single refund may be requested per form. Complete the form in accordance with the following instructions:

Block Number Explanation of Entry

1 List the office in which the form was prepared

2 Assign a request number for the refund using the FCO-Fiscal Year-Sequential Number format. (For example: LOS-2000-0011 would be the 11th request submitted by the Los Angeles office during FY 2000.)

Block Number Explanation of Entry

3 Enter the requesting office mailing address

4 Enter the area code and telephone number of the person to whom questions regarding the refund may be directed

5 Enter the name and address of the person to whom the refund should be sent. Fee refunds for minors should be sent to a parent or guardian "in behalf of" the child’s name. This information must be displayed in the sequence listed below. Use an additional address line, if necessary

- Line 1: First name, middle initial, last name of payee

- Line 2: In behalf of ________________ (if applicable)

- Line 3: Street address or P.O. Box

- Line 4: City, state and Zip code

6 Record information necessary to file and retrieve the disposition copy after action by the DMC. (receipt file number, etc, according to local procedures). The requesting office remains responsible for maintaining sufficient information and files for a proper audit trail

7 Use this space to identify (name and phone number) a point of contact in the event The DMC has questions concerning processing of the request

8 Enter the application form number (or "fingerprint fee" if appropriate)

9 Enter applicable section of law, if any

10 Enter the exact amount of the fee to be refunded

11 Circle the reason for the refund: "overpayment", "Service error" or "other". If "other" is circled, there must be a brief explanation. Forms submitted without explanation will be returned by DMC without action

12 Original signature of signatory authority.*

13 - 15 Leave blank – for DMC use only

* If delegated below the office head, the office head must send a memorandum defining the specific delegation. The memorandum must contain the specific authority being delegated (e.g. approval of Fee Refund Requests, Forms G-266), the name, title and signature of each subordinate receiving the delegation and the effective date of the delegation.

Baileyj

That is interesting... we might have to look into that. I was actually wondering about that the other day.. how they could take our money, give us the forms and then three months later be told that we were ineligible for a waiver. They never even considered the hardships you know.. they said there was no point.

Sometimes now I am ok about moving there. Sometimes I even thing I will prefer it... and then.... I think of the grandchildren. My third grandchild was born last week. I haven't been able to see him yet... its an hour away and I am too overwhelmed and exhausted to make the trip right now. If only they could have at least let tom come here to help me. He is so much better at this than I am. I was amazed after the denial how quickly he found us a place to live and got us moved. We had spent four and a half months in a two room flat because when they let us file the waiver forms they said he should not change his address. We actually had a bigger place lined up at that time which we had to let go. We had plans to move into it the very next week. We did not expect to be allowed to file a waiver. We had gone to the interview for closure... we wanted them to deny us to our face.

Anyway.. here is a picture of my granddaughters, Carina and Mia holding their new brother Gabriel. Taken when he was less than a day old.

mary

[rebeccajo 14]

dwar I'm looking at your timeline and trying to figure something out.

You say she had a 7 year overstay.

She left for the UK 7/05. Came back 9/05 and departed again 12/05.

Then tried to re-enter again 1/06 and FINALLY they barred her?

How in the heck did she get in on 9/05? And when DID her ban clock start to tick? 7/05?

9/05? 1/06?

Actual dates was she left US on June 30th 2005

Reentered on VWP 30 Sept 2005 and departed on 29 December 2005

when she came back Jan of 2006 she was refused entry.

Our mistake was her coming back so soon after last stay. Honestly think that if we had waited over 90 days between visits they would never have refused entry. I would have to look at home where i have the info but on her passport it was just stamped that she was refused entry, there were no codes for more serious offense. Looking back we were very ignorant concerning the laws and how they tracked overstays that did not involve any USCIS involvement when she left. We honestly thought there wouldnt be problem. Also we are not yet sure she actually is on 10 year ban at this time as still have not been able to confirm it with request for information from the USCIS.

I don't understand how the heck she got back in in September 05.

[dwar49 0]

Good question. Her POE was LAX airport, no one even questioned her entry. to be honest when she was admitted at that time we figured there was no problem at all. that is why we still have hope that because of that there wont be a 10 year ban (slim but a possibility). There was even confusion the day she was refused entry. If I could ever get an answer on my info request on her, we would know for sure.

[beetee4ever 0]

Mary&Tom,

beautiful grandchildren - you must be beaming with joy and pride

Vicky,

that's cool, thanks for sharing

[rebeccajo 14]

Good question. Her POE was LAX airport, no one even questioned her entry. to be honest when she was admitted at that time we figured there was no problem at all. that is why we still have hope that because of that there wont be a 10 year ban (slim but a possibility). There was even confusion the day she was refused entry. If I could ever get an answer on my info request on her, we would know for sure.

Old passport vs. new passport?

Name change?