Brutal Kroger parking lot attack caught on camera,

[Janelle2002 3,865]

Jannelle, I don't think the majority, even in this mob were beating the man for any other reason than they were part of a mob following what the first stupid person did. I think a group of any race are equally likely to follow along and do something just as stupid to another human being.. We are witnessing human behavior, not "black" behavior: The first one or two that start the violence are the real problem but that does not excuse the rest for following in and taking part.

Whats bothersome to me is the usual conversation - It does not matter the crime - we know were 90% of the people are going to come down without even having to know what happened. One line of lip service "oh this is terrible" and then the usual spewing of their viewpoint over and over.

This is a crime, This is a racially motivated crime. This crime means nothing overall about any particular race or individual.

That's going to be true when this happens again and the race is reversed only those spewing the "It means nothing" line this time will say just the opposite. Hence me calling them Hypocrites.

Who said this?

Do you need me to post videos of white kids attacking black kids? They are out there.

This is stuff stupid teenagers are doing now a days. Hispanic girl attacked my daughter at school. All kids of all color are doing this. There are Asian kids too. Who said it means nothing? I told my daughter if I catch her engaging in or encouraging this I would pull the skin off of her body and I told her principal if he don't get it under control I would put him and the school knee deep in debt by the time I finished suing their pants off. No issue since.

I still see no one saying all black people are racist. The black people in the video that are attacking and encouraging the attack, however, are. And deserve to be called on it.

So, I can't make the comment all black people are not racist. Thanks, now I know this. So sorry for bringing out the fact all blacks are racists waiting to attack white people.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Who said this?

Do you need me to post videos of white kids attacking black kids? They are out there.

This is stuff stupid teenagers are doing now a days. Hispanic girl attacked my daughter at school. All kids of all color are doing this. There are Asian kids too. Who said it means nothing? I told my daughter if I catch her engaging in or encouraging this I would pull the skin off of her body and I told her principal if he don't get it under control I would put him and the school knee deep in debt by the time I finished suing their pants off. No issue since.

While that's true, someone saying that in a thread where a group of white teens attacked a black teen would get hell for saying it. They'd be accused of brushing off the issue, of not taking it seriously or attempting to justify it, of ignoring the blatant racism. There's no need to ignore that race played a big part (maybe THE part) in this attack.

[Teddy B 17,252]

It's clear the person she is responding to has an issue with the subject. This is why I offered to have the discussion with said member.

It's unclear to me why a statement like "Since all black people are racist" was made to that poster, or why it was made at all. Seems like quite a generalization to me, the same type of generalizations you are usually looking to dismiss.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

So, I can't make the comment all black people are not racist. Thanks, now I know this. So sorry for bringing out the fact all blacks are racists waiting to attack white people.

You're getting defensive responding to an argument nobody's even making.

It's unclear to me why a statement like "Since all black people are racist" was made to that poster, or why it was made at all. Seems like quite a generalization to me, the same type of generalizations you are usually looking to dismiss.

Seriously, this is the most hypocritical thread I've read in a long time.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Jannelle, I don't think the majority, even in this mob were beating the man for any other reason than they were part of a mob following what the first stupid person did. I think a group of any race are equally likely to follow along and do something just as stupid to another human being.. We are witnessing human behavior, not "black" behavior: The first one or two that start the violence are the real problem but that does not excuse the rest for following in and taking part.

Whats bothersome to me is the usual conversation - It does not matter the crime - we know were 90% of the people are going to come down without even having to know what happened. One line of lip service "oh this is terrible" and then the usual spewing of their viewpoint over and over.

This is a crime, This is a racially motivated crime. This crime means nothing overall about any particular race or individual.

That's going to be true when this happens again and the race is reversed only those spewing the "It means nothing" line this time will say just the opposite. Hence me calling them hypocrites.

Not true. When it's reversed, we're told not to judge the actions of those few. We're told to get over it, or even better, we get links of attacks like this which seems to justify such an attack. Anytime it's the other way around, it's blacks commit the most crime. It's let's look at what's wrong with black people.

When I or Janelle condemn this type of behavior, the same folks that will post this are the same ones who will find a way to justify it when it's the other way around.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

When I or Janelle condemn this type of behavior, the same folks that will post this are the same ones who will find a way to justify it when it's the other way around.

Funny. The only people I see justifying this type of behavior are the ones who are saying things like "this is what teenagers do now" and "BUT THEY DIDN'T ATTACK THE OTHER WHITE GUY!" and "a black guy stopped it, at least!"

[SMOKE 1,426]

They got them selves a white dude... Not racist at all.... just black folks having a little fun ..Looks like that one black fellow has done some polar bear hunting before. You know that one trying to kick in the white dudes face. Everyone else just dancing and whooping it up. High five each other . Of did you not watch the video.

I think Janelle was responding to this.

did you watch the video? it must have been a white woman that said

'Hold on, they got a white dude, the woman laughs. Look at em. Let me get out the way.'

Edited September 8, 2014 by SMOKE

[Janelle2002 3,865]

While that's true, someone saying that in a thread where a group of white teens attacked a black teen would get hell for saying it. They'd be accused of brushing off the issue, of not taking it seriously or attempting to justify it, of ignoring the blatant racism. There's no need to ignore that race played a big part (maybe THE part) in this attack.

Nothing about my post states this is being brushed of. Where did I say race played no part? Please quote it. The only thing you heard me say there was another white guy there that was not attacked.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

Funny. The only people I see justifying this type of behavior are the ones who are saying things like "this is what teenagers do now" and "BUT THEY DIDN'T ATTACK THE OTHER WHITE GUY!" and "a black guy stopped it, at least!"

But people on VJ, minus a few, say all blacks are racist, danger hungry, thugs waiting to pounce on all white people. My point was, this is not true as you clearly SAW the black guy come to the white guys defense and stop the act.

My only point. Sorry you do not agree with me pointing this out. Am I to only point out what the kids did and not acknowledge the guy that helped the white kid?

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

It's unclear to me why a statement like "Since all black people are racist" was made to that poster, or why it was made at all. Seems like quite a generalization to me, the same type of generalizations you are usually looking to dismiss.

I think she was being sarcastic since the all black people are violent criminals motif was brought in here. I hate generalizations since I tend to be generalized a lot.

I just find it funny that when it's this way, we have to look the entire black race. When it's the other way around, we don't look at all white people. In fact, links are presented to show stuff like this as a countermeasure of some sort.

It's possible she responded to the wrong person, or mistook what ID said.

[GBCW 397]

I weep for white people, they are such victims. Why are black people so mean?

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Funny. The only people I see justifying this type of behavior are the ones who are saying things like "this is what teenagers do now" and "BUT THEY DIDN'T ATTACK THE OTHER WHITE GUY!" and "a black guy stopped it, at least!"

There is no justification for the attack.

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

Who said this?

Do you need me to post videos of white kids attacking black kids? They are out there.

This is stuff stupid teenagers are doing now a days. Hispanic girl attacked my daughter at school. All kids of all color are doing this. There are Asian kids too. Who said it means nothing? I told my daughter if I catch her engaging in or encouraging this I would pull the skin off of her body and I told her principal if he don't get it under control I would put him and the school knee deep in debt by the time I finished suing their pants off. No issue since.

So, I can't make the comment all black people are not racist. Thanks, now I know this. So sorry for bringing out the fact all blacks are racists waiting to attack white people.

You know Janelle I imagine even if you and I had the exact same viewpoint on a subject we could still somehow argue and never come to a conclusion. I think maybe you enjoy toying with me. I went into more detail with my response because my fist post was a bit harsh (oh and sorry penny that first shot was also uncalled for) and I wanted to explain. Enjoy your day ma'am!

[SMOKE 1,426]

I weep for white people, they are such victims. Why are black people so mean?

wait until they figure out 0bama screwed them with amnesty.

[Teddy B 17,252]

I think she was being sarcastic since the all black people are violent criminals motif was brought in here. I hate generalizations since I tend to be generalized a lot.

I just find it funny that when it's this way, we have to look the entire black race. When it's the other way around, we don't look at all white people. In fact, links are presented to show stuff like this as a countermeasure of some sort.

It's possible she responded to the wrong person, or mistook what ID said.

Outside of the usual suspects like LIB, I think everyone else here has tried to have an open conversation about this. The only generalizations and mention of "all black people" are being done by Janelle and yourself. None of us have stated anything remotely close to "all black people are this way".