Brutal Kroger parking lot attack caught on camera,

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

You still hanging your hat on the doctored NBC tape where they claim he used the N word?

Having fun being ridiculous? Read the transcript for crying out loud. It's readily available. He said "effing coons" not the n-word. Not sure that's really much better. But whatever word he used, he followed Martin because he was black. That much, I think, is pretty clear to anyone who paid attention.

http://www.examiner.com/article/george-zimmerman-s-911-call-transcribed

Zimmerman: We’ve had some break-ins in my neighborhood and there’s a real suspicious guy. It’s Retreat View Circle. The best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle.

This guy looks like he’s up to no good or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around looking about. [00:25]

911 dispatcher: OK, is he White, Black, or Hispanic?

Zimmerman: He looks black.

...

911 dispatcher: He’s near the clubhouse now?

Zimmerman: Yeah, now he’s coming toward me. He’s got his hands in his waist band.

And he’s a black male.[1:03]

[Sousuke 1,214]

You still hanging your hat on the doctored NBC tape where they claim he used the N word?

I was going to say, it was dark and he was wearing a hoody.

[Karee 4,191]

Having fun being ridiculous? Read the transcript for crying out loud. It's readily available. He said "effing coons" not the n-word. Not sure that's really much better. But whatever word he used, he followed Martin because he was black. That much, I think, is pretty clear to anyone who paid attention.

http://www.examiner.com/article/george-zimmerman-s-911-call-transcribed

Zimmerman: We’ve had some break-ins in my neighborhood and there’s a real suspicious guy. It’s Retreat View Circle. The best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle.

This guy looks like he’s up to no good or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around looking about. [00:25]

911 dispatcher: OK, is he White, Black, or Hispanic?

Zimmerman: He looks black.

...

911 dispatcher: He’s near the clubhouse now?

Zimmerman: Yeah, now he’s coming toward me. He’s got his hands in his waist band.

And he’s a black male.[1:03]

Yes, I am having fun. Thanks for asking. However, I don't see how I'm being ridiculous. Where in the quote above does he say "f'ing coons?" Also, where does it say he followed him because he's black.

You sure live in fantasy land.

[decocker 7,198]

A simple framing for this story: "A group of black thugs attack a white man and white woman and beat the hell out of them because they were white." This is hard to understand for the people who seek alternative explanations to explain away black NFL players who use their girlfriends/fiances on elevators like a punching bag. Crime does not exist, or gets explained away when historical race cards and charts are displayed in shiny colors and interesting shapes.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Yes, I am having fun. Thanks for asking. However, I don't see how I'm being ridiculous. Where in the quote above does he say "f'ing coons?" Also, where does it say he followed him because he's black.

You sure live in fantasy land.

Click the link I provided if you want to see where he refers to him as "effing coons". There's also audio out there to go along with the transcript where you can hear it pretty well. The parts I pasted are the early on places where Zimmermann identified Martin as a black guy - that being why he followed him which is what ultimately led to the death of Martin. But please, go on pretending that Martin's race had nothing to do with it. But then it is you that lives in fantasy land.

Edited September 10, 2014 by Mr. Big Dog

[Karee 4,191]

Having fun being ridiculous? Read the transcript for crying out loud. It's readily available. He said "effing coons" not the n-word. Not sure that's really much better. But whatever word he used, he followed Martin because he was black. That much, I think, is pretty clear to anyone who paid attention.

http://www.examiner.com/article/george-zimmerman-s-911-call-transcribed

Zimmerman: We’ve had some break-ins in my neighborhood and there’s a real suspicious guy. It’s Retreat View Circle. The best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle.

This guy looks like he’s up to no good or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around looking about. [00:25]

911 dispatcher: OK, is he White, Black, or Hispanic?

Zimmerman: He looks black.

...

911 dispatcher: He’s near the clubhouse now?

Zimmerman: Yeah, now he’s coming toward me. He’s got his hands in his waist band.

And he’s a black male.[1:03]

[it sounds like Zimmerman says under his breath, ‘F-ing coons’ at 2:22]

Is that what you're referring to? "it sounds like" Carry on.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

[it sounds like Zimmerman says under his breath, F-ing coons at 2:22]

Is that what you're referring to? "it sounds like" Carry on.

That is indeed what I am referring to. The audio is public as well. Take a listen and then tell me what other than effing coons he said there. Or continue to live the sweet life in fantasy land where the fact that Martin was black played no role in Zimmermann deciding to pursue him.

[JohnR! 5,495]

You have to give up trying to be rational for it will not take you anywhere. They call it prejudice for a reason...

The link I used was Huffpost. Not the root or any others you named.

You think you beat me, but you've not countered any of the links or other evidence. Put your money where your mouth is.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

A simple framing for this story: "A group of black thugs attack a white man and white woman and beat the hell out of them because they were white." This is hard to understand for the people who seek alternative explanations to explain away black NFL players who use their girlfriends/fiances on elevators like a punching bag. Crime does not exist, or gets explained away when historical race cards and charts are displayed in shiny colors and interesting shapes.

If you paid attention, there's plenty of people calling for jail time. But somehow I know you won't see it.

You have to give up trying to be rational for it will not take you anywhere. They call it prejudice for a reason...

Nah, SMOKE plays the game well, that was for some of the more unsavory folks here.

[SMOKE 1,426]

You have to give up trying to be rational for it will not take you anywhere. They call it prejudice for a reason...

care to clarify your post?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

That makes sense. I actually agree with you. (Don't tell Marvin)

There's definitely racial issues at play. If these folks in Ferguson are all bent out of shape over this shooting, I'd say their anger is not really justified. However, there seems to be some underlying anger with the cops in that town, and this may have brought it out. There's also outside agitators ready to take advantage of this for their own benefit. The problem I have with these cases is that the racial aspect gets all the attention, when there's nothing racial there. The issue IMO is if people holler racism every time a black guy is shot by a white guy, people will just start tuning it out. Me personally I just quit watching CNN etc. because of the whole thing. It's become hours and hours of speculation based on nothing. I had to laugh a couple weeks ago, they were actually talking about some guys Skype conversation that may or may not have picked up the gunshots. It's gotten that silly.

Val makes sense a lot lately. Not sure what is up with that

I don't have time for all the haters. I just discovered that real honest to god Viagra at the pharmacy is 1.30 cents a pill here in the PI. no prescription required

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Yes, I am having fun. Thanks for asking. However, I don't see how I'm being ridiculous. Where in the quote above does he say "f'ing coons?" Also, where does it say he followed him because he's black.

You sure live in fantasy land.

Here's the missing piece:

When the unsub(Criminal Minds binging at the moment between classes) is black, any black person fits the bill. If TM was white, he wouldn't have followed him. The break ins around the neighborhood were classified as black males doing the crime. TM is a black male. Even though he didn't commit the crime, GZ had him pegged for it. Remember, had he just approached him and asked basic questions, TM could have cleared himself. But he wasn't given that chance. He was followed, then chased until the final confrontation.

Generally, being black is enough. Doesn't matter if you're old, young, man or woman. If you think it's BS check out the thread when that black lady was pulled over and handcuffed by police. Talk about wrong on every level. The dispatch told the cops they were looking for a tan or beige colored Toyota with 4 black males hanging out waving a gun. This woman's had a Burgoyne colored Nissan Maxium. 4 black males. A black woman with three small kids. Couldn't be more different, and yet she was pulled over, handcuffed and grilled. The cops even lied about license plate and matching the description.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Here's the missing piece:

When the unsub(Criminal Minds binging at the moment between classes) is black, any black person fits the bill. If TM was white, he wouldn't have followed him. The break ins around the neighborhood were classified as black males doing the crime. TM is a black male. Even though he didn't commit the crime, GZ had him pegged for it. Remember, had he just approached him and asked basic questions, TM could have cleared himself. But he wasn't given that chance. He was followed, then chased until the final confrontation.

Generally, being black is enough. Doesn't matter if you're old, young, man or woman. If you think it's BS check out the thread when that black lady was pulled over and handcuffed by police. Talk about wrong on every level. The dispatch told the cops they were looking for a tan or beige colored Toyota with 4 black males hanging out waving a gun. This woman's had a Burgoyne colored Nissan Maxium. 4 black males. A black woman with three small kids. Couldn't be more different, and yet she was pulled over, handcuffed and grilled. The cops even lied about license plate and matching the description.

I see I go overseas for a bit and you start making everything about tm again lol

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I see I go overseas for a bit and you start making everything about tm again lol

What can I say? I miss the good ole days when we made 50 page threads about it and then turned around and talk about how hot our wives are

[Karee 4,191]

Here's the missing piece:

When the unsub(Criminal Minds binging at the moment between classes) is black, any black person fits the bill. If TM was white, he wouldn't have followed him. The break ins around the neighborhood were classified as black males doing the crime. TM is a black male. Even though he didn't commit the crime, GZ had him pegged for it. Remember, had he just approached him and asked basic questions, TM could have cleared himself. But he wasn't given that chance. He was followed, then chased until the final confrontation.

Generally, being black is enough. Doesn't matter if you're old, young, man or woman. If you think it's BS check out the thread when that black lady was pulled over and handcuffed by police. Talk about wrong on every level. The dispatch told the cops they were looking for a tan or beige colored Toyota with 4 black males hanging out waving a gun. This woman's had a Burgoyne colored Nissan Maxium. 4 black males. A black woman with three small kids. Couldn't be more different, and yet she was pulled over, handcuffed and grilled. The cops even lied about license plate and matching the description.

You're kinda wasting keystrokes here. There's never been one piece of solid evidence in the TM/GZ case that it had anything to do with race. Period. Sure, there's pages of threads here and rampant speculation on TV and the net, but not one SINGLE thing that has shown that case to be nothing more than a some kid thinking he was going to be bada$$ and teach that guy a lesson. It got him killed. End of story.