Pennsylvania mother who gave daughter abortion pill gets prison(title edited)

[GandD 5,966]

Sometimes the embarrassment from being an unwed teenage mother forces women to make a choice to abort that thy later regret. That's a problem too ya know? It's a big decision.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Sometimes the embarrassment from being an unwed teenage mother forces women to make a choice to abort that thy later regret. That's a problem too ya know? It's a big decision.

My ex did that when she was 17. Her parents were Catholic so she never told them.

It was the right decision for her at the time, but she did have regrets about it. Not necessarily about having the procedure done, but that she didn't talk to anyone about it and underestimated how much of an emotional effect it would have on her.

[Curmudgeon 227]

Sometimes the embarrassment from being an unwed teenage mother forces women to make a choice to abort that thy later regret. That's a problem too ya know? It's a big decision.

Bringing up a child when you can't deal with the emotional consequences of being pregnant or having that child is not a sound plan. If there is a solution that allows the mother to have the child then yes, certainly, but sometimes that is not possible because of the circumstances and in those cases, no matter how regrettable, it is a preferred solution. These women should not have any more guilt piled up on them for making that choice by being made to feel that they could have found a solution if only they had tried harder.

[Curmudgeon 227]

My ex did that when she was 17. Her parents were Catholic so she never told them.

It was the right decision for her at the time, but she did have regrets about it. Not necessarily about having the procedure done, but that she didn't talk to anyone about it and underestimated how much of an emotional effect it would have on her.

If you are a person with normal emotions you are bound to regret having an abortion and some level, but someone who has made that choice should never be made to feel that they only made that choice because they didn't try hard enough to find a solution. That's just wrong. Not that I am suggesting that anyone here is doing that, but I just feel it needs to be said that because a person makes the choice to abort does not make them a bad, uncaring or stupid person.

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

For a "medical procedure" that's dirt cheap. I expected it to be in the thousands.

Do you have to be a real doctor to perform an abortion?

It is a medical procedure so I would assume so..

Yeah that is very cheap compared to some others.. Amazing what being covered by insurance insurance does to costs.. My wife broke her back while we were on vacation last year and was not able to fly so was stuck in Bogota for nearly seven weeks. I could not stay as just before that vacation I was diagnosed with a stage-2 melanoma that was going to be removed the day after we came back..

My one day out patient procedure ran just over 16,000 total. Her seven weeks - which included an 11 hour surgery on her spine and a 24 hour nurse for two weeks - ran under 3000. This year my wife had orbital decompression surgery (worst surgery ever! They have to basically pull your eyeballs out and then break the bones in your face and chisel more room in the back of your skull). We went to a surgical center to save money but just the rental for this room was 9000 for four hours.

I think the most shocked I have ever been at the price of something medical was when my father was in the hospital.. One day the nurse comes in and says to my mom "Your husband is getting a fungal infection under his toenails, this will take care of it" and she hangs a bag of yellow liquid and connects it to the IV.. She did this everyday for a while. When the bill came in the mail my mom started shaking and I looked it over - those little bags of fungus fighter were 5000 per bag! Everyday they just non-nonchalantly hung it up and walked out like it was nothing.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

If you are a person with normal emotions you are bound to regret having an abortion and some level, but someone who has made that choice should never be made to feel that they only made that choice because they didn't try hard enough to find a solution. That's just wrong. Not that I am suggesting that anyone here is doing that, but I just feel it needs to be said that because a person makes the choice to abort does not make them a bad, uncaring or stupid person.

I agree. It's a complex choice that brings with it complex emotions.

[GandD 5,966]

That's insane. Who or what keeps those prices in check? What a cluster.

[Curmudgeon 227]

It is a medical procedure so I would assume so..

Yeah that is very cheap compared to some others.. Amazing what being covered by insurance insurance does to costs.. My wife broke her back while we were on vacation last year and was not able to fly so was stuck in Bogota for nearly seven weeks. I could not stay as just before that vacation I was diagnosed with a stage-2 melanoma that was going to be removed the day after we came back..

My one day out patient procedure ran just over 16,000 total. Her seven weeks - which included an 11 hour surgery on her spine and a 24 hour nurse for two weeks - ran under 3000. This year my wife had orbital decompression surgery (worst surgery ever! They have to basically pull your eyeballs out and then break the bones in your face and chisel more room in the back of your skull). We went to a surgical center to save money but just the rental for this room was 9000 for four hours.

I think the most shocked I have ever been at the price of something medical was when my father was in the hospital.. One day the nurse comes in and says to my mom "Your husband is getting a fungal infection under his toenails, this will take care of it" and she hangs a bag of yellow liquid and connects it to the IV.. She did this everyday for a while. When the bill came in the mail my mom started shaking and I looked it over - those little bags of fungus fighter were 5000 per bag! Everyday they just non-nonchalantly hung it up and walked out like it was nothing.

The system in place does not encourage best practice. People do pay more than they should do and while those who like to suggest that market forces are the be all and end all, the truth is that in health care, it is not. The outcome for the humans who have to navigate the system for health care are not best served by this system. Sad, but true.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

That's insane. Who or what keeps those prices in check? What a cluster.

Prices charged by doctors and hospitals should be standard across the board. $5000 for a procedure at one hospital and $10000 at another should be unacceptable. Again, another government failure

[Curmudgeon 227]

I may be wrong, the US based insurance system is quite difficult to navigate at the best of times, but I think you will find that the government doesn't have any control over pricing in medical practice so to say it's a failure of government is a bit off, unless you are suggesting that government has failed to 'interfere' and introduce a more fair and comprehensive health care system such as universal health care, and for that you can blame the right wing constituency who quite patently don't want it to be taken out of private hands.

[GandD 5,966]

Prices charged by doctors and hospitals should be standard across the board. $5000 for a procedure at one hospital and $10000 at another should be unacceptable. Again, another government failure

I agree to an extent. It makes more sense to charge more if you have more prestigious doctors or fancier equipment or higher rent. That being said, I don't believe that these reasons account completely for the variations we see in hospital billing these days. I don't believe that the same procedure in the same hospital preformed on two different individuals with different insurance should cost two different prices. Assuming all other things are equal.