Benghazi, Stand Down! Who Gave that Order?

[JohnR! 5,495]

It's both when you're the "Middle Of The Road Man".

We need to stay out of other peoples business but stand up to Putin? How does that even work?

Ah! The middle of the road man, forever trying to straddle that fence...

[GandD 5,966]

both

How is that even possible? Do you think Obama should not have set a withdrawal date? Wouldn't the libertarian POV be to remove all troops from foreign soil? I makes sense that you don't agree with Obama's social or gun policies. But you should be on board with the foreign policy as a libertarian. It makes you seen disingenuous. And i'm not saying it to lecture you, I really don't understand why you would not be for a troop withdrawal.

[waka1 28]

Merde !

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

How is that even possible? Do you think Obama should not have set a withdrawal date? Wouldn't the libertarian POV be to remove all troops from foreign soil? I makes sense that you don't agree with Obama's social or gun policies. But you should be on board with the foreign policy as a libertarian. It makes you seen disingenuous. And i'm not saying it to lecture you, I really don't understand why you would not be for a troop withdrawal.

"Both" would be not to fiddle with the internal affairs of others but if you see your neighbor raping your other neighbors wife maybe you have an obligation for the greater good to act.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

How is that even possible? Do you think Obama should not have set a withdrawal date? Wouldn't the libertarian POV be to remove all troops from foreign soil? I makes sense that you don't agree with Obama's social or gun policies. But you should be on board with the foreign policy as a libertarian. It makes you seen disingenuous. And i'm not saying it to lecture you, I really don't understand why you would not be for a troop withdrawal.

Obama had nothing to do with the troops coming out of Iraq. Let's keep things straight, huh?

[GandD 5,966]

"Both" would be not to fiddle with the internal affairs of others but if you see your neighbor raping your other neighbors wife maybe you have an obligation for the greater good to act.

That example might work for ukranaine but not Iraq.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

What Bush said would happen if we pulled out early , is exactly what happened . That much is fact

And anyone with half a brain or better knew what would happen if we went in - the elder Bush sure did which is why we didn't do it then. And it is exactly what happened. That much is a fact. When we would pull our troops back made no difference at all. We could have done it in 2004, we could have done it in 2012 or we could have done in 2020 and beyond - the result would have been one and the same.

Edited September 5, 2014 by Mr. Big Dog

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

That example might work for ukranaine but not Iraq.

The people that are invading there are lopping off our heads and making threats, there has to be a loophole for that.

[GandD 5,966]

The people that are invading there are lopping off our heads and making threats, there has to be a loophole for that.

An isolationist libertarian wouldn't care. That's part of being an isolationist. I would care since its at the very least partially our fault. But I'm not a libertarian isolationist.

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

An isolationist libertarian wouldn't care. That's part of being an isolationist. I would care since its at the very least partially our fault. But I'm not a libertarian isolationist.

NB said he was only libertarian on social issues.. I think..

[GandD 5,966]

NB said he was only libertarian on social issues.. I think..

That's fine, but his stance on the middle east was that we should stay out. Then he criticizes Obama for pulling troops out. Which is it?

[Teddy B 17,252]

An isolationist libertarian wouldn't care. That's part of being an isolationist. I would care since its at the very least partially our fault. But I'm not a libertarian isolationist.

This is part of the reason why having a true Libertarian gov't would be a total fustercluck. On top of that the whole live and let live concept is a fallacy. It would be live and let live until you do something that I don't like, then we're right back where we are now.

[bowens44 214]

A true progressive could give an excrement just exactly who gave the order to stand down in Benghazi, and allow our Consulate to fall into the hands of murderous islamic terrorists, and for our Ambassador to be murdered and subsquently paraded in front of the world like a chicken ready for the grill.

There was no order to stand down this is just more right wing lunatic fringe nonsense. Seriously turn off fox news, it's not your friend.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

A true progressive could give an excrement just exactly who gave the order to stand down in Benghazi, and allow our Consulate to fall into the hands of murderous islamic terrorists, and for our Ambassador to be murdered and subsquently paraded in front of the world like a chicken ready for the grill.

But, for those with a brain, this will matter:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/09/04/Fox-News-Blockbuster-Benghazi-Book-Reveals-Source-of-Stand-Down-Order

You do realize you sound just like an extremist right?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

How is that even possible? Do you think Obama should not have set a withdrawal date? Wouldn't the libertarian POV be to remove all troops from foreign soil? I makes sense that you don't agree with Obama's social or gun policies. But you should be on board with the foreign policy as a libertarian. It makes you seen disingenuous. And i'm not saying it to lecture you, I really don't understand why you would not be for a troop withdrawal.

I am all for not having US troops anywhere overseas unless a vital US interest is being protected. Bring them all home. Let them all kill each other.

However Obama was warned. Just cause he did what I agree with and it backfired on him, does not mean he is not responsible

This is part of the reason why having a true Libertarian gov't would be a total fustercluck. On top of that the whole live and let live concept is a fallacy. It would be live and let live until you do something that I don't like, then we're right back where we are now.

Exactly

That's fine, but his stance on the middle east was that we should stay out. Then he criticizes Obama for pulling troops out. Which is it?

Both, I told you that