Skype Chat and Texts as evidence

[HDreams 1]

Wow so I've just realised something that may be a problem!

I'm the foreign fiancée and my US citizen fiancé is filing the I-129F. As he's almost useless with things like this I've photocopied and printed off all the evidence of us meeting and my flights to, America. Part of the evidence are Skype chats and iMessages. As I've taken the screen shots of both and printed them off, they don't say my name as the contact and say his instead. Obviously if he printed them off then my name would be up there. Is this really a problem, are we likely to receive an RFE? There are enough pictures of us in England and in America, so it shouldn't be a problem, no?

Please say I'm just being stupid!!!

Thanks

[Caryh 5,206]

They don't really care about this type of evidence at the petition stage. The proving ongoing relationship comes during the interview. The photocopies of your passport proving meeting in person during the two years previous to filing is very important though.

[HDreams 1]

They don't really care about this type of evidence at the petition stage. The proving ongoing relationship comes during the interview. The photocopies of your passport proving meeting in person during the two years previous to filing is very important though.

Ok that's good because I've got the photocopy of the page of my four visits (once in September last year and 3 this year) in the package. Obviously you can't see the picture page, is it worth me photocopy that and emailing it to my fiancé so he can add it to the package when it gets to him?

[Caryh 5,206]

Ok that's good because I've got the photocopy of the page of my four visits (once in September last year and 3 this year) in the package. Obviously you can't see the picture page, is it worth me photocopy that and emailing it to my fiancé so he can add it to the package when it gets to him?

Yes you want to have the biopage included. They actually say to copy the entire thing, but I just copied the biopage and the entry and exit stamp pages. I was visiting her in her country though.

[Caryh 5,206]

Ok that's good because I've got the photocopy of the page of my four visits (once in September last year and 3 this year) in the package. Obviously you can't see the picture page, is it worth me photocopy that and emailing it to my fiancé so he can add it to the package when it gets to him?

Yes you want to have the biopage included. They actually say to copy the entire thing, but I just copied the biopage and the entry and exit stamp pages. I was visiting her in her country though.

[Zedayn 485]

You won't receive an RFE for that. Proof of relationship isn't really looked at during the petition stage, it will just be forwarded to the embassy once the petition is approved. Don't worry about your name or his name not being there. When I sent in chat logs of me and my fiancée, we were using our chat nicknames and not our real ones. No issue at all.

If you are using passport stamps as proof of meeting, you need to include the bio page of your passport.

Edited September 4, 2014 by Zedayn

[HDreams 1]

Yes you want to have the biopage included. They actually say to copy the entire thing, but I just copied the biopage and the entry and exit stamp pages. I was visiting her in her country though.

Ohhhh Ok so I'll copy that tomorrow.

Off topic, obviously there's no way of knowing when I'll be in America so we haven't made any plans to marry except a courthouse wedding. We plan on doing the big shindig later on down the line. So we only have intent letters as evidence to marry and brief Skype chats about it. Will this be an issue?

You won't receive an RFE for that. Proof of relationship isn't really looked at during the petition stage, it will just be forwarded to the embassy once the petition is approved. Don't worry about your name or his name not being there. When I sent in chat logs of me and my fiancée, we were using our chat nicknames and not our real ones. No issue at all.

If you are using passport stamps as proof of meeting, you need to include the bio page of your passport.

Thank you, this is really helpful as I'm just nervous about the whole thing ?

[Caryh 5,206]

The letter of intent letters is all you needed. They even say not to make plans like the wedding or airline tickets because of the indeterminate nature of the process.

[nobbie 105]

When you say add it to the package he will receive what do you mean, from who??. Once it's approved it will go to NVC and then on to London. He will receive the approval notice., that about all, no package as such.

On the evidence topic, London require hardly anything so no need to bother with skype logs and all that stuff.

Just re reading and I am not sure where you are in the process, fill out your timeline and it will help people to help you.

[HDreams 1]

When you say add it to the package he will receive what do you mean, from who??. Once it's approved it will go to NVC and then on to London. He will receive the approval notice., that about all, no package as such.

On the evidence topic, London require hardly anything so no need to bother with skype logs and all that stuff.

Just re reading and I am not sure where you are in the process, fill out your timeline and it will help people to help you.

I'm sending him stuff to mail off! I'm doing all the hard work you see. He's being a man of leisure. As soon as he gets the papers I'm sending, he's adding in his intent letter and the copies of pages of his passport (his mum has his birth certificate in NC) and sending them off as a package. That's what I meant by him adding to the package.

We haven't sent form and everything off yet that's why I haven't done my timeline, no point.

[Nich-Nick 3,354]

Wow so I've just realised something that may be a problem!

I'm the foreign fiancée and my US citizen fiancé is filing the I-129F. As he's almost useless with things like this I've photocopied and printed off all the evidence of us meeting and my flights to, America. Part of the evidence are Skype chats and iMessages. As I've taken the screen shots of both and printed them off, they don't say my name as the contact and say his instead. Obviously if he printed them off then my name would be up there. Is this really a problem, are we likely to receive an RFE? There are enough pictures of us in England and in America, so it shouldn't be a problem, no?

Please say I'm just being stupid!!!

Thanks

Guess what? You can easily get a visa without Skype. None ever.

For the petition, USCIS wants documented:

1) one person is a US citizen (his birth certificate or passport)

2) each of you is free to marry (maybe divorce decrees), and intends to marry within 90 days of your entry on a K1 visa (two letters of intent -his, yours)

3) you have met in person during the last two years.

So document your trips with passport stamps and boarding passes which will have you NAME on them and dates that correspond to the dates on the passport stamps. Maybe you have a credit card bill showing you made a purchase in his town on a date that corresponds with your trip itinerary. You guys have met four times and speak the same language so proving some kind of daily chatting doesn't really matter. There are people who met once for two weeks who do not speak the same language that may have more to prove. You are not one of those people. USCIS doesn't care if you talk about a wedding or if you changed your Facebook page to say "in a relationship". Focus on the three points above and add a few photos together.

At your interview in London, guess what? No proof required of being in love, engagement ring, photos together, Skype, love letters, more visits, etc. London does not want any of that. Really.

[HDreams 1]

Guess what? You can easily get a visa without Skype. None ever.

For the petition, USCIS wants documented:

1) one person is a US citizen (his birth certificate or passport)

2) each of you is free to marry (maybe divorce decrees), and intends to marry within 90 days of your entry on a K1 visa (two letters of intent -his, yours)

3) you have met in person during the last two years.

So document your trips with passport stamps and boarding passes which will have you NAME on them and dates that correspond to the dates on the passport stamps. Maybe you have a credit card bill showing you made a purchase in his town on a date that corresponds with your trip itinerary. You guys have met four times and speak the same language so proving some kind of daily chatting doesn't really matter. There are people who met once for two weeks who do not speak the same language that may have more to prove. You are not one of those people. USCIS doesn't care if you talk about a wedding or if you changed your Facebook page to say "in a relationship". Focus on the three points above and add a few photos together.

At your interview in London, guess what? No proof required of being in love, engagement ring, photos together, Skype, love letters, more visits, etc. London does not want any of that. Really.

Ok well that's good then! He was stationed here for two years (AF) and spent last year together right up till he left so we loads of pics and a whole bunch of hotel receipts and everything form here and America, sounds like on the evidence front I'm golden! Thank you!

Guess what? You can easily get a visa without Skype. None ever.

For the petition, USCIS wants documented:

1) one person is a US citizen (his birth certificate or passport)

2) each of you is free to marry (maybe divorce decrees), and intends to marry within 90 days of your entry on a K1 visa (two letters of intent -his, yours)

3) you have met in person during the last two years.

So document your trips with passport stamps and boarding passes which will have you NAME on them and dates that correspond to the dates on the passport stamps. Maybe you have a credit card bill showing you made a purchase in his town on a date that corresponds with your trip itinerary. You guys have met four times and speak the same language so proving some kind of daily chatting doesn't really matter. There are people who met once for two weeks who do not speak the same language that may have more to prove. You are not one of those people. USCIS doesn't care if you talk about a wedding or if you changed your Facebook page to say "in a relationship". Focus on the three points above and add a few photos together.

At your interview in London, guess what? No proof required of being in love, engagement ring, photos together, Skype, love letters, more visits, etc. London does not want any of that. Really.

Ok well that's good then! He was stationed here for two years (AF) and spent last year together right up till he left so we loads of pics and a whole bunch of hotel receipts and everything form here and America, sounds like on the evidence front I'm golden! Thank you!

Guess what? You can easily get a visa without Skype. None ever.

For the petition, USCIS wants documented:

1) one person is a US citizen (his birth certificate or passport)

2) each of you is free to marry (maybe divorce decrees), and intends to marry within 90 days of your entry on a K1 visa (two letters of intent -his, yours)

3) you have met in person during the last two years.

So document your trips with passport stamps and boarding passes which will have you NAME on them and dates that correspond to the dates on the passport stamps. Maybe you have a credit card bill showing you made a purchase in his town on a date that corresponds with your trip itinerary. You guys have met four times and speak the same language so proving some kind of daily chatting doesn't really matter. There are people who met once for two weeks who do not speak the same language that may have more to prove. You are not one of those people. USCIS doesn't care if you talk about a wedding or if you changed your Facebook page to say "in a relationship". Focus on the three points above and add a few photos together.

At your interview in London, guess what? No proof required of being in love, engagement ring, photos together, Skype, love letters, more visits, etc. London does not want any of that. Really.

Ok well that's good then! He was stationed here for two years (AF) and spent last year together right up till he left so we loads of pics and a whole bunch of hotel receipts and everything form here and America, sounds like on the evidence front I'm golden! Thank you!

[Nich-Nick 3,354]

Add some military documentation or something showing he was stationed there and you are perfect. Then you've got him in England and you in the US. Perfect. Six photos are enough. Pencil name, date, location on the back.