Mom facing prison for carrying handgun gets support from Middlesex Tea Party

[GandD 5,966]

Did you see Kate Upton nude?

Every night.

[GandD 5,966]

That whole little thing about any rights not expressly given to the Federal Govt etc etc or words to that effect

That doesn't mean I have to agree with it. If you buy a gun in ky, the same rules governing how you can carry it should hold true anywhere in the nation. Same with cc. You get certified in ky, you should be certified anywhere in the US. Then you wouldn't have stupid situations like this.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Every night.

Are you at Gary's?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

i friggin bolded it for you in the damn quote.

on mandatory minimum sentencing for gun crimes, the U.S. Sentencing Commission found that blacks were far more likely to be charged and convicted of federal gun crimes that carry mandatory minimum sentences. They were also more likely to be hit with “enhancement” penalties that added to their sentences. In fact, the racial discrepancy for mandatory minimums was even higher than the aforementioned disparity for federal gun crimes in general:

That is the kind of junk science that is used to inflame, but is relatively meaningless. Since they commit such a disproportionate amount of the crime, would it be possible their gun crime might be a much higher percentage of violent crime or gun used in the commission of a felony or gun used in a crime, while already on probation.

When I see real hard in depth studies that show that the exact same crime.. Armed robbery by a person on parole with the same amount of priors nets a much higher sentence for blacks, then I will believe it .

P.S. I don't think bolded is a real werd

That doesn't mean I have to agree with it. If you buy a gun in ky, the same rules governing how you can carry it should hold true anywhere in the nation. Same with cc. You get certified in ky, you should be certified anywhere in the US. Then you wouldn't have stupid situations like this.

Did not say I did not agree with you, I was telling you why

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[GandD 5,966]

Are you at Gary's?

Pshhh, he wishes his wife looked like Kate Upton.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Are you at Gary's?

I miss that Guy. He could work the un washed masses into a 12 page rant faster, than Junior Samples could eat a biscuit . The beaches in Ankara bit was priceless.

He was the master baiter and people danced to his music like the pied piper.

[GandD 5,966]

I miss that Guy. He could work the un washed masses into a 12 page rant faster, than Junior Samples could eat a biscuit . The beaches in Ankara bit was priceless.

He was the master baiter and people danced to his music like the pied piper.

Yes yes, we're all aware that he's some sort of mentor for you. He's not a moderate either.

Edit. Who's junior samples?

Edited September 4, 2014 by GandD

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

That is the kind of junk science that is used to inflame, but is relatively meaningless. Since they commit such a disproportionate amount of the crime, would it be possible their gun crime might be a much higher percentage of violent crime or gun used in the commission of a felony or gun used in a crime, while already on probation.

When I see real hard in depth studies that show that the exact same crime.. Armed robbery by a person on parole with the same amount of priors nets a much higher sentence for blacks, then I will believe it .

P.S. I don't think bolded is a real werd

Did not say I did not agree with you, I was telling you why

What's funny is, you have no problem believing black people commit crime more than white people, based on the exact same findings that black people are targeted more.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Yes yes, we're all aware that he's some sort of mentor for you. He's not a moderate either.

Edit. Who's junior samples?

WOW Really ?

[decocker 7,198]

That is the kind of junk science that is used to inflame, but is relatively meaningless. Since they commit such a disproportionate amount of the crime, would it be possible their gun crime might be a much higher percentage of violent crime or gun used in the commission of a felony or gun used in a crime, while already on probation.

When I see real hard in depth studies that show that the exact same crime.. Armed robbery by a person on parole with the same amount of priors nets a much higher sentence for blacks, then I will believe it .

P.S. I don't think bolded is a real werd

i'm sorry, but you clearly are speaking out of your rectum. you don't even know what information is contained in the graphic you're claiming is meant to inflame.

What's funny is, you have no problem believing black people commit crime more than white people, based on the exact same findings that black people are targeted more.

i don't believe for a second he even understands the premise of the information i posted. but it was all gravy when this was just about the tea party supporting her.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

What's funny is, you have no problem believing black people commit crime more than white people, based on the exact same findings that black people are targeted more.

Here is the fault logic with you

Fact=Black people commit a largely disproportionate amount of Federal Gun crime

Fact= The same black people in this category on average got stiffer sentences.

These are facts.Raw data. Unless the Data is wrong I accept this as fact.

Black people are targeted more-- That's speculation, one could argue they are targeted because they commit more crime. That would be speculation also. One could argue it's because most judges and Officers are racist. That would be speculation also.

There is a reason they get harsher sentences in some cases. My guess would be, that if you did an in depth unbiased study, you would find it's because of the type of crime they committed or because of past records.

i'm sorry, but you clearly are speaking out of your rectum. you don't even know what information is contained in the graphic you're claiming is meant to inflame.

i don't believe for a second he even understands the premise of the information i posted. but it was all gravy when this was just about the tea party supporting her.

I do understand, and if I was speaking out of my rectum, you would not be able to stay in the room today. I have read many articles on the subject of sentencing and why blacks in some cases get harsher sentences. I am sorry my viewpoint does not align with yours.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Here is the fault logic with you

Fact=Black people commit a largely disproportionate amount of Federal Gun crime

Fact= The same black people in this category on average got stiffer sentences.

These are facts.Raw data. Unless the Data is wrong I accept this as fact.

Black people are targeted more-- That's speculation, one could argue they are targeted because they commit more crime. That would be speculation also. One could argue it's because most judges and Officers are racist. That would be speculation also.

There is a reason they get harsher sentences in some cases. My guess would be, that if you did an in depth unbiased study, you would find it's because of the type of crime they committed or because of past records.

I do understand, and if I was speaking out of my rectum, you would not be able to stay in the room today. I have read many articles on the subject of sentencing and why blacks in some cases get harsher sentences. I am sorry my viewpoint does not align with yours.

So if it's about black people committing crime, it's all gravy. But if there's any hint of discrimination or unfair treatment, it's junk science?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

So if it's about black people committing crime, it's all gravy. But if there's any hint of discrimination or unfair treatment, it's junk science?

No. Once again the chip on your shoulder is so large, you cant see what is being said

1. Good science= Blacks commit more crime

2. Good Science= Blacks in the above category on Average get longer sentences.

Junk science= Assuming #2 is due largely in part to the fact judges don't like dark skinned people or it's because America is Racist

Junk science also would be= Assuming #1 is due largely because Black people don't care and need to police themselves.

See how logic works when you are not so twisted with racial anger, that you can look at things objectively

[spookyturtle 9,465]

So if it's about black people committing crime, it's all gravy. But if there's any hint of discrimination or unfair treatment, it's junk science?

There is some of both. There is racism and blacks do commit a disproportionate amount of crime. Does that crime justify racism? No. Does it lead to profiling in some, maybe many instances? Yes. But is that why the crimes are committed?

It is a sad fact of reality that the average black person is scrutinized more closely and at times treated unfairly because of the actions of some members of their race. This doesn't happen very often with white people. With blacks, almost all feel the consequences. And until the behavior of the bad apples changes significantly, I think it will be this way. It will take a long time after the behavior changes before many people think otherwise. There is no fast, easy solution. But IMO, it has to start from within and build from there.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

There is some of both. There is racism and blacks do commit a disproportionate amount of crime. Does that crime justify racism? No. Does it lead to profiling in some, maybe many instances? Yes. But is that why the crimes are committed?

It is a sad fact of reality that the average black person is scrutinized more closely and at times treated unfairly because of the actions of some members of their race. This doesn't happen very often with white people. With blacks, almost all feel the consequences. And until the behavior of the bad apples changes significantly, I think it will be this way. It will take a long time after the behavior changes before many people think otherwise. There is no fast, easy solution. But IMO, it has to start from within and build from there.

Here's the problem:

First, racism was a part of life just because. No matter what you did, it affected your life. Now, after decades of unfair treatment, the mentality has been degraded to a state in which people don't even know their own self-worth. People blame government programs as if segregation didn't have a share in that. I don't blame racism for crime, but it's a part of the bigger problem.

So, not only does a person of color have to work twice as hard, in order to be considered equal, we have to eliminate all crime within our community as well. This isn't directed at you, but it just seems like there's always a reason to discriminate against black people.