Black Man Issues EPIC Rant to 'My Black People' - Stop Blaming Racism, Take Responsibility

[decocker 7,198]

Just curious Val. What type of reparations would you consider?

given how long it's been, i would like to see some serious money going to infrastructure in the poorest/most gang riddled areas of the country. and in that respect, the money wouldn't necessarily be going to just black people. but i think as a country we need to realize the disadvantage we've placed. it will never happen, but the sooner the better imo.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

i am well aware that inequality will never be erased. i personally believe that we will not and cannot move on from slavery, as a country 'black community' and 'white community' without reparations. it's not a popular opinion. it's actually one that will pretty much guarantee that the majority will refuse to take anything else you say seriously..

I agree that reparations are appropriate in any situation where the events happened within living memory - although what form that should take I'm not too sure about.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

It doesn't matter, I just thought you put someone different in your avatar. the blonde hair and glasses match Ric flair, but the face looks different, fat cheeks.

I agree, but I am going to change it. It does not represent

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

What we're seeing here is a case of people seeing what they want to believe and having no interest in the issue outside of their narrow frame of reference.

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I'm assuming you're including yourself in this statement?

Well put it this way - I'm not banging on about how we can lay all the present day problems of black people on laziness and entitlement.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

my understanding is that i do not subscribe to the bootstrap theory. it's not so simple in my opinion.

bona fides, that's funny. i'm going to answer your questions, not because i think they're valid questions or that the answers matter - because they don't. here ya go: i'm not doing anything to improve race relations, except carrying myself to my own standard (that's all anyone can do). i have black people in my family, i guess if you're taking mixed race as 'black people'. i have black neighbors. but i don't talk to or hang out with any of my neighbors. i have black friends but none that i see or talk to on a daily basis, unless you count facebook.

and i post here all the time. but i'd love to see me put up a questionable video from a leftist you tube channel and see how serious and contemplative everyone gets. lol.

Sure, they're valid questions (and thanks for the answers, BTW)... if you were dating/married to a black guy, you would have a different perspective than you do now, just as if you were Marvin; those who face the inequalities every day will see it differently, for sure. You sound about like me, except that I don't think there are any blacks in my family for at least the last 3 generations. I have a very limited exposure to black folks (compared to Marvin, who is exposed almost daily ), so of course my views are biased to what I have experienced in life. The ones I have known have all been about as well off as I (or at least worked hard to make it appear that way) or perhaps more well off. They all worked hard to get where they are today, and none of them sat around and talked about racism as a problem in America. I would guess that is because it didn't affect them as much as it does others, but I cannot say for sure.

Like you, I don't think I can do much to change the status quo of racial tension today, at least not nationally. I try to do what I know is right every day, and it mostly begins with treating everyone I meet with respect (at least initially)... men are Sir and ladies are Ma'am, regardless of age or color. Maybe part of my problem is that my "white privelege" has been such that I have not had to live close to any areas like Detroit or Chicago where the proportion of people who do bad things to other humans is so high. So I have only been exposed to blacks that made good money, went to college (or at least had the opportunity to go if they chose not to), had nice things, and didn't complain that their lack of niceties is someone else's fault. Plus, being in the military, there is little tolerance for racist activites or remarks.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

given how long it's been, i would like to see some serious money going to infrastructure in the poorest/most gang riddled areas of the country. and in that respect, the money wouldn't necessarily be going to just black people. but i think as a country we need to realize the disadvantage we've placed. it will never happen, but the sooner the better imo.

That is exaclty the problem we have now. we have spent billions only to create govt dependance and destroy famlies.

Spend that billions on infrastructure. It will look like a war zone in 10 years, unless you change the mindset

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

That is exaclty the problem we have now. we have spent billions only to create govt dependance and destroy famlies.

Spend that billions on infrastructure. It will look like a war zone in 10 years, unless you change the mindset

How do you change the mindset?

I don't think YouTube is really going to cut it.

[Teddy B 17,252]

given how long it's been, i would like to see some serious money going to infrastructure in the poorest/most gang riddled areas of the country. and in that respect, the money wouldn't necessarily be going to just black people. but i think as a country we need to realize the disadvantage we've placed. it will never happen, but the sooner the better imo.

I'm not in favor of reparations. But if they were to happen, I think the biggest investments should be in education, employment and establishing family values. I think if these three root problems are addressed, the rest would begin to take care of itself.

Edited September 2, 2014 by Teddy B

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

i am well aware that inequality will never be erased. i personally believe that we will not and cannot move on from slavery, as a country 'black community' and 'white community' without reparations. it's not a popular opinion. it's actually one that will pretty much guarantee that the majority will refuse to take anything else you say seriously..

Yes. I can get on board that train, cuz even if it's not the prettiest one, it's headed in the right direction.

A black friend of mine recently said (OMG, am I allowed to repost what another black person said?):

Call me a pessimist but I don't think their is a fix. It's part or our survival instinct to group with others like us and ostracize / shun those that are different. Way back in the day, when we roamed the earth in loincloth and women were a National Geographic photo op, it was about food and survival. Today, with food and living space in abundance, it is about power and control but the roots grow from the same tree; me over you.

I give him the credit for saying it, but I think it is an accurate statement, and I agree with it.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I'm not in favor of reparations. But if they were to happen, I think the biggest investments should be in education, employment and establishing family values. I think if these two root problems are addressed, the rest would begin to take care of itself.

Thats it. Turn it your Mag 7 card NOW!

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

I wouldn't give up your day job.

I won't!

Don't hate because my command of your language is the mostest correcter.

[Teddy B 17,252]

I agree, but I am going to change it. It does not represent

As you wish.

Now that you've broken bread with Kathryn and kissed the ring, are you the guy to see to get things done around here?

[Teddy B 17,252]

Thats it. Turn it your Mag 7 card NOW!

I told you many times that we are not that far apart on most issues. You just get wound up cause I don't like guns.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

As you wish.

Now that you've broken bread with Kathryn and kissed the ring, are you the guy to see to get things done around here?

You now it's odd. I feel like I have to be a little bit more careful about my tendency to post crazy stuff. After meeting her it would be really embarrassing if she had to swat me down.

I will say this for the Lady. She is one of the sweetest most down to earth people you will ever meet.

As for Dave, he is a great guy but I don't get these big mug ugly black guys with the gorgeous sweet Asian wives. Dave has no chip on his shoulder, and despite being black has been very successful in life.

Edited September 2, 2014 by The Nature Boy

[decocker 7,198]

Sure, they're valid questions (and thanks for the answers, BTW)... if you were dating/married to a black guy, you would have a different perspective than you do now, just as if you were Marvin; those who face the inequalities every day will see it differently, for sure. You sound about like me, except that I don't think there are any blacks in my family for at least the last 3 generations. I have a very limited exposure to black folks (compared to Marvin, who is exposed almost daily ), so of course my views are biased to what I have experienced in life. The ones I have known have all been about as well off as I (or at least worked hard to make it appear that way) or perhaps more well off. They all worked hard to get where they are today, and none of them sat around and talked about racism as a problem in America. I would guess that is because it didn't affect them as much as it does others, but I cannot say for sure.

Like you, I don't think I can do much to change the status quo of racial tension today, at least not nationally. I try to do what I know is right every day, and it mostly begins with treating everyone I meet with respect (at least initially)... men are Sir and ladies are Ma'am, regardless of age or color. Maybe part of my problem is that my "white privelege" has been such that I have not had to live close to any areas like Detroit or Chicago where the proportion of people who do bad things to other humans is so high. So I have only been exposed to blacks that made good money, went to college (or at least had the opportunity to go if they chose not to), had nice things, and didn't complain that their lack of niceties is someone else's fault. Plus, being in the military, there is little tolerance for racist activites or remarks.

the reason i said they weren't valid questions is because they're all superficial. my perspective on race comes from a lifetime of dealing with race, in this country. i've never lived in a city like detroit. and since i'm female, maybe it's easier for me to admit - if in the middle of a walk home late at night, i see a man walking down the street coming toward me, i'm going to be nervous no matter his race.

i remember going over to a friends house afterschool and being absolutely terrified of my friend's grandparents. she had told me they didn't like white people. they would roll their eyes whenever i walked in the living room (until they got used to me).

i had a similar experience, with another friend's mother, who insisted i was only her daughter's friend so i could get my triflin white ####### in with some black guys. she always tried to come up with a reason not to allow me over.

what if this was all i had to go on concerning black people? i could have easily thought black people do nothing but cling to race.